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    Spurs fans should all thank Mr Cuban to let everybody know how pathetically powerless he is in the NBA.

    Yes, he is right, there are a lot of ex Spurs in NBA teams.
    Why? because the best organization in basketball is a good SCHOOL.


    yes, they hold relevant positions.
    Why? because they are GOOD.

    yes, most have a good relationship with Popovich.
    Why? They learnt from him and are trying to reproduce a WORKING system.

    Yes, there is a mob of ex Spurs around.
    No, there is no mob of ex Mavs around.

    Why?
    Becuase you know nothing about the business of running a basketball team, Mr Cuban.

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    really?

    How surprising.

    Welcome to the real world, Mr cuban.
    it was a question he was answering, dumbass

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    It's subtle, but he basically implying that the reason that the trading team in question with "Spurs pedigree" denied to trade with the Mavs was solely based on some perceived loyalty to the Spurs, and not for the much more plausible reason that they are conference/division rivals. He tries to reinforce this ridiculous hypothesis by saying that the team accepted an "inferior package" from another team (because there is know way they could have actually liked the other deal better, right?)

    So, in review: Cuban expects us to believe that a team's front office is going to purposefully turn down a better offer from the Mavs to accept an inferior offer from another team because the Spurs don't like the Mavs and they like the Spurs better?!

    It's preposterous . . . is what it is.
    Cuban actually cited the Pau Gasol deal as an example. If the Spurs or Mavs knew of the deal beforehand, they would've offered more than the lakers did. But it probably had to do with the Jerry West laker/grizz connection that they were the first team the Logo would deal with.

    Again, it's business relationships. If you were a businessman wanting to make a deal, wouldn't you go to your buddies first to try for a win-win before calling up others to see if you can get a steal? It's basic Behavioral Economics.

    Now please quit making me defend Mark Cuban. I'm getting sick to my stomach.

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    Oh, and lesson Nr1 for running a basketball team -any business, in fact- is NEVER come out with pathetic complainings.
    Dont' talk, act.

    If you can.

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    it was a question he was answering, dumbass
    really?

    welcome a real forum, idiot.

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    Again, it's business relationships. If you were a businessman wanting to make a deal, wouldn't you go to your buddies first to try for a win-win before calling up others to see if you can get a steal? It's basic Behavioral Economics.
    Not if my buddies wanted me to make an inferior deal with a neutral company because they had a rivalry with a company offering a better deal.

    lol economics lecture

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    Cuban over values his players. They might be decent when they go to Dallas, but they get ruined and become whiners as Cuban enables them to always blame someone else for their game and never take responsibility for their play. Except for Finley and Nash very few ex Mav players ever amount to anything and most GMs are fully aware of this.

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    Cuban over values his players. They might be decent when they go to Dallas, but they get ruined and become whiners as Cuban enables them to always blame someone else for their game and never take responsibility for their play. Except for Finley and Nash very few ex Mav players ever amount to anything and most GMs are fully aware of this.
    This.

    Cuban paying Finley to win a championship with the Spurs is beyond basketball, it's in the world sports book of legends.

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    The "Spurs bias" got us Richard Jefferson. Lakers bias got them Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown. Cuban is butthurt about the wrong team....but then again there's the history: "lol 7th seed >2nd seed including a game where the Spurs couldn't make a single 3, etc etc"

    But tbh Cubes...if you're going to hire and then fire a former Spur as your headcoach..expect to pay the consequences in a league filled with Spurs connections. Also, don't publicly side with Tim Donaghy even if it does make your 2006 feel a little better.

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    It's subtle, but he basically implying that the reason that the trading team in question with "Spurs pedigree" denied to trade with the Mavs was solely based on some perceived loyalty to the Spurs, and not for the much more plausible reason that they are conference/division rivals. He tries to reinforce this ridiculous hypothesis by saying that the team accepted an "inferior package" from another team (because there is know way they could have actually liked the other deal better, right?)

    So, in review: Cuban expects us to believe that a team's front office is going to purposefully turn down a better offer from the Mavs to accept an inferior offer from another team because the Spurs don't like the Mavs and they like the Spurs better?!

    It's preposterous . . . is what it is.


    He doesn't say anything about the Spurs being involved. He's talking about former Spurs front officer personnel. When Danny Ferry worked for the Cavs, he worked for the Cavs, not the Spurs.

    The decisions others make are not decisions by the Spurs. I thought that would have been obvious.

    Just in case its not clear enough, even if others were making decisions based out of loyalty to the Spurs that isn't the Spurs fault but the fault of the other GMs. He's blaming THEM, not the Spurs.

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    He doesn't say anything about the Spurs being involved. He's talking about former Spurs front officer personnel. When Danny Ferry worked for the Cavs, he worked for the Cavs, not the Spurs.

    The decisions others make are not decisions by the Spurs. I thought that would have been obvious.

    Just in case its not clear enough, even if others were making decisions based out of loyalty to the Spurs that isn't the Spurs fault but the fault of the other GMs. He's blaming THEM, not the Spurs.
    You're a funny guy, Manny.

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    I'm also handsome. Killer combo, TBH.

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    Just so we're clear . . . nobody is making decisions based on loyalty to the Spurs. I think we can all agree that notion is absurd, not to mention, a really stupid way to operate a business.

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    Yeah I agree with that of course.

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    My guess is that Pubes was ing about former Portland GM Pritchard. Welcome to the club. He didn't exactly help us out either, in fact, screwed us at least once in the draft by grabbing Batum. He also held a premium on his talent until it cam time to dump it for pennies, for example, Outlaw and Webster. I think at one point, their price was pretty high, but as it got closer to time to pay them or lose them, I'm sure it dropped. A first year GM would probably understand that concept. You call them back and make another offer.

    I wonder if it ever occurred to Cuban that it isn't a Spurs afilliation thing but that maybe there are a large portion of teams that just don't like his loudmouth arrogant ass?

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    Just so we're clear . . . nobody is making decisions based on loyalty to the Spurs. I think we can all agree that notion is absurd, not to mention, a really stupid way to operate a business.
    That's the whole point.

    According to Cubes, the system is "always" stacked against him. It's either the officials, or the commish and now it's a Spurs bias. The mere fact that he decided to air this perception, whether he believes it or not, only further cements his reputation as a rich, whiny, excuse-maker. Let him tell it, the failings of his team are always someone elses' fault.

    I give the guy credit for being a risk-taker, but he's certainly made his share of awful personnel mistakes. He's made trade after trade, year after year. Some good and some bad. As I said earlier, he allowed the Nets to take full advantage of him, because he was convinced he had to re-acquire J-Kidd. How'd that turn out? He's reacquired certain players after trading them away. How'd that work out? He re-upped Shawn Bradley (twice) when everyone in the NBA knew the guy was a stiff. How'd that work?

    He figures if he hoardes the most talent and annually exceeds the luxury tax, that he can "buy" his way to a le. Thus far, it's not worked. Is that because of Spurs bias among GMs that refuse to do business with him? It's always easier and convenient to blame someone else rather than to take responsibility for one's mistakes. When Dirk's run is over and the Mavs are left le-less, I wonder what new excuse he'll drum up then?

    It's funny that one time his team even made it to the big stage, they choked away a 2-0 series lead. The next season, while compiling the league's best record, they choked again by losing to an 8th seeded team in the first round. Yet, he never acknowledges that. In fact, he acts as though it never happened.

    Mentally tough coaches, players and people don't about their cir stances, they work hard to overcome them. No one ever claimed that guy isn't smart. You can't become a self-made billionaire without having some intellect. That doesn't mean that his perpetual claims always have merit. Even if Cuban wasn't complaining, and I don't believe he was in the interview, it still comes across as more sour grapes - simply because of his whiny-man reputation. He's always been a drama-queen and this is nothing more than his self-promotional, spin-doctoring. His act is tiresome and he should just STFU.

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    So what?

    Rivals rarely trade to each other
    Nope they don't. Thank you for Scola by the way

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    Nope they don't. Thank you for Scola by the way
    Saw Scola last night when the Clippers played the Rockets.

    You're very welcome.

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    mental midget

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    lol cuban


    no one wants to do business with you because you're a got. why would an ex-Spur want to help Cuban out...nothing about that dude should command respect, and this is exactly what we're seeing. end of the day, it's a rivalry, and a very heated one. is there any surprise, got?


    why do you think the Mcnabb trade that sent him from Philly to DC was such a big deal for many Philly fans? ---Cus they sent him to a divisional rival.


    Cuban being a moron, what else is new?

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    Nope they don't. Thank you for Scola by the way
    You haven't been our rivals in a decade.

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    F' Cuban and that whole organization. I wouldn't piss on any of them if they were on fire.

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    "there is such a compe ive rivalry between "us and the Spurs"





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    Cuban over values his players. They might be decent when they go to Dallas, but they get ruined and become whiners as Cuban enables them to always blame someone else for their game and never take responsibility for their play. Except for Finley and Nash very few ex Mav players ever amount to anything and most GMs are fully aware of this.
    When the has this ever happened? Now you're just making stupid up.

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    Just so we're clear . . . nobody is making decisions based on loyalty to the Spurs. I think we can all agree that notion is absurd, not to mention, a really stupid way to operate a business.
    You'd be surprised about how business really operates.

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