it. women have been all about breaking the glass ceiling, getting out and working, yada yada yada. so let the es have their way.
we dont mind having to do all the cool stay at home . let them work their asses off, especially if they dont complain about it.
in what way do you mean?
oh wow so there are more women english majors now. whooptee in do.
men like doing more hands on, technical stuff. they like getting jobs that pay well, and seek occupation based on the market. especially in this day and age, college is not always the best option to be paid well.
M/F ratio on college campuses for starters; the ratio taking advanced degrees to cap that. I'm not too sure guys being a little bit handier than the gals even if true explains the reversal of the historical trend along gender lines.
in what way do you mean?
jajajajaja, . her grandkids could be reading this!
Also, Good Men don't advertise themselves (ahem, ourselves). We find the baddest es and let them join the party, not the other way around. in female cuckhold.
I thought the article was poor, fraught with misconceptions and generalizations without looking at social changes that might have contributed to get to this point (IE: the shift from a manufacturing society to a services society, the obvious decadence of family values and the reasons behind it, etc).
The writer is certainly all over the place. Thanks for posting though.
In my experience this isn't true. My boss is female(director level), her boss is female (executive director) and her boss is female (executive vp).
in what way do you mean?
oh wow so there are more women english majors now. whooptee in do.
men like doing more hands on, technical stuff. they like getting jobs that pay well, and seek occupation based on the market. especially in this day and age, college is not always the best option to be paid well.
My former boss was female and her boss was also female.
There is one thing all of these women have in common though. They're all painfully unattractive.
The article is great and raises excellent points, but I think the big picture has more to do with everything.
Lets observe the situation:
-Worst depression since the Great Depression. Basically no one alive today was in their 20's during the Great Depression, so no one can empathize with us.
-Baby boomers are not retiring. They are holding on to their jobs longer and longer to pay their mortgages.
-High school diplomas are nearly worthless today.
-College diplomas are less valuable than ever, especially with the large prevalence of for-profit, faux colleges taking money and giving diplomas for jobs that don't exist.
This all leads to a shrinking middle class and high unemployment, which is well do ented.
Since "Good Men" is really just female-speak for "Men With Money", this perfectly explains their question. The answer is these men do not exist, since they cannot find jobs which would support a middle class family.
I don't think it just about "men with money". How many male kids today are worthless when it comes to manual tasks like fixing a sink, changing their own oil, mowing their own lawn?
The definition for a man has changed. Ironically this is partially women's fault because for years, they've pined for the sensitive male. Well, they now have it along with the crying, depression, whining and general inep ude that comes along with not being able to make a decision when one needs to be made.
It's not only about money, but ~95% of it is. Think about the examples you just listed; fixing a sink, changing oil, or mowing lawns. Money pays for any of that.
The argument could be made that our generation is much better at using, fixing, formatting, or upgrading computers than any generations before us. This is a good apples-to-apples comparison to your examples, because on average most people over ~35 have to pay money to GeekSquad to format their hard drives.
I think people overall has raised better arguments in this thread than in the article for symptoms and reasons why you see what you see. ing about "Star Wars", playing videogames or Steve Carell movies really strike me as a fairly superficial analysis.
Females on average aren't good at assimilating and comprehending the big picture, so they complain about how it affects them directly, and basically give symptoms instead of a diagnosis.
If men can't find a girlfriend or a job, they play videogames.
There's another connotation which is not related to money, which is hard, physical labor, and all that it brings with it: Exercise, no time for TV or games, since you're most likely dead tired and just need all the sleep you can get, etc.
This is in part why I raised the issue of society as a whole shifting from a manufacturing to a services society. Nowadays, being tired is more closely related to the mind, not the body, and all it's side-effects: people can't sleep, need distraction in some form of entertainment, etc.
I just don't think it's relevant or associated. I have a job, been married for years, and still like to sit down and play some videogames from time to time while my wife watches some soap opera on TV. We still have time to spend together, watch a movie, go shopping and take care of each other.
Heck, we both love to watch some goofy Carell movie or The Office, and we've played some Rockband together back in the day. I think that's where the article fails, trying to tie reasons for what's going on to certain stereotypes.
USA in particular is really bad for exercise for some other reasons too, like
-Synthetic food devoid of nutrition but with plenty of calories and shelf-life
-No mass transit, which means no walking
I think everyone should buy a pair of gymnastic rings. I wish I would have learned about them a lot earlier in my life, because it's like cheating.
I won't defend my last reply's points, because they aren't facts, but instead generalizations. They aren't hard-and-fast rules, but instead trends that I notice and purport to be.
And like any good reporter, she has figures and research information to back up statements like this.As most professors tell it, they also have more confidence and drive. These strengths carry women through their 20s, when they are more likely than men to be in grad school and making strides in the workplace. In a number of cities, they are even out-earning their brothers and boyfriends.
Right?
... Right?
Yeah, it's a good thing stuff like this has never existed before...Still, for these women, one key question won't go away: Where have the good men gone? Their male peers often come across as aging frat boys, maladroit geeks or grubby slackers—a gender gap neatly crystallized by the director Judd Apatow in his hit 2007 movie "Knocked Up."
And it's a good thing that women don't have this problem. I mean, no girls at the club are willing to hook up, right? No women have any problems being described in the article, right? No poor role-models for them in mainstream entertainment, either.
http://bad-girls-club.oxygen.com/
Tbh, we should go back to the glory days, back when men were men, and beat their wives to keep them in line.
"beat their wives"
that's still current practice, as is child sexual abuse, across all classes, ages, cultures, incomes.
Except more than ever, men are being arrested for it, as opposed to the past where it wasn't regarded as something nearly as serious. Not only that, but women can actually live without said male figure in their lives, so they don't have to tolerate such abuses. It's odd that the article seems to be whining about their new-found position of self-reliance.
This article just screams bitter woman.
Look I could go into all the reasons something like this is stupid, but many of those reasons have already been posted. Therefore I have a solution to the plight of females who pine for the days of "good men." Stop ing them. I mean if women claim that they are tired of men who don't act like men, then why do you see guys in skinny jeans, guy liner, and hair like anne heche walking around with a girlfriend? I am absolutely juvenile, I don't play video games, but I like stupid movies and websites (like failblog, etc). When my wife leaves the room I fart in my friend's face and think its funny. I am also in grad school, am gainfully employed (though could be better LOL), pay my bills, spend time with my family, and can change oil, love mowing the lawn, just got finished pulling the carbs on my motorcycle, etc. They can coexist. I have never been one to be pressured by cultural norms and its a good thing because there has been great pressure recently to femininize (sp?
I will absolutely act like a neanderthal sometimes, its fun, allows the brain to decompress, and recharges for all of the time when I need to not act that way.
Look I could go into all the reasons something like this is stupid, but many of those reasons have already been posted. Therefore I have a solution to the plight of females who pine for the days of "good men." Stop ing them. I mean if women claim that they are tired of men who don't act like men, then why do you see guys in skinny jeans, guy liner, and hair like anne heche walking around with a girlfriend? I am absolutely juvenile, I don't play video games, but I like stupid movies and websites (like failblog, etc). When my wife leaves the room I fart in my friend's face and think its funny. I am also in grad school, am gainfully employed (though could be better LOL), pay my bills, spend time with my family, and can change oil, love mowing the lawn, just got finished pulling the carbs on my motorcycle, etc. They can coexist. I have never been one to be pressured by cultural norms and its a good thing because there has been great pressure recently to femininize (sp?
I will absolutely act like a neanderthal sometimes, its fun, allows the brain to decompress, and recharges for all of the time when I need to not act that way.
Women want a girlfriend, with a attached.
What this article also ignores is expectations, which are set by many pressures, cultural, parental, and individual. Women are taught to seek the perfect man, the shining knight, and that anything less is settling. These expectations act, in concert with the educational and career options to lead to unmarried women at 35 bemoaning the notion that there's no good men out there or whatever. There are more single women and men than ever.
Of course, there is a counter, that men don't find a bunch of women out there willing to coddle them like their parents did.
Lo and behold that the general population isn't full of superheroes and people who are waiting on hand and foot to cater to your every whim. People need to get over their unrealistic expectations, if they are that unhappy not being in a relationship.
I think a fair amount of blame can be placed on the parents of the new woman and new man. You about your 25 year old boy who won't get off his ass and make something of himself, but that didn't happen overnight. Same for why your daughter in her late 20s is still single and miserable that she's lonely, despite having had a few serious relationships (who weren't perfect).
People need to get over themselves and get on with life. The end.
It's the "Walt Disney Princess Syndrome", tbh. A lot of women out there looking for the perfect man think that man is going to treat them like a goddess with no faults and adore their every step. Women who are looking for realistic, decent men usually find them, IMO.
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