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Where did the Lakers rank in 3PA in '01 and '02, h2b?
Last 2 plays for the Spurs:
Gino drive and kick to Neal on the.... you guessed it, 3p line. Splash.
Next play, swing along the 3p line to Bonner... brick.
No, no, this isn't a 3p chucking team. You're one of the biggest teams in the league that pounds the ball inside all day.
Where did the Lakers rank in 3PA in '01 and '02, h2b?
Doesn't matter.
We had a prime Shaq who dominated the paint to balance anything they did. Lol.
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No, you made the argument, cuz...
Spurs aren't a chucker.
When you rely on the 3p to win games like the Spurs (unlike the 2001/02 Lakers who relied on Shaq's inside and Kobe's perimeter then role players 3p shooting) that's a Chucker team.
If Tim was 4-5 years younger, I'd say otherwise but with this version of Tim you don't have the inside game to balance your chucking tendencies.
Again, basketball 101 little man. Learn it.
KobeSynco_TimQuattro?
lol If I ever did that it was in a completely facetious manner.
This is exactly what I am talking about. You have no legit response to anyone who challenges you. You shadowbox and evade legit debate at every turn and you talk out of your ass constantly. You are like the koriwhat of Lakerfan. A wounded animal whose only defense is hissing and secreting malodorous bile.
Lol, such as?
I'll pit my bball knowledge and anyone's here or anywhere.
All the things I've talked about all season: playoff basketball is a half court executing game, stresses more emphasis on team defense, low post scoring and less 3p chucking.
And that's exactly what's playing out on the court right now.
Now your turn for a basketball only - non talking response...
Things no Spurs fan understand, even though the Spurs won 4 championships on that philosophy.
The reason no one wants to discuss basketball with you and simply trolls you with the responses you don't want to hear is because you're a bag.
So when you're stamping your feet about no one wanting to accept "reality" Spurfan (or Mavfan, or Sunfan, etc) will purposely play the fool to watch you whine.
I told you I would talk basketball with you if that's what you're truly interested in, but you're not. Your purpose on this board, as well as ESPN, is to see how many Laker s you can fit in your mouth at one time.
Believe it or not, you are the definition of a homer.
You may have won 4 championships, but the way your team is playing NOW is far different than it was in those days. Bottom line, the Spurs of old were a grind it out half-court team. Not an uptempo 3pt chucking version of the
The reason you don't want to discuss basketball with him is because there is nothing to discuss. You can't argue with anything he said. Playoff basketball is about half court execution, team defense, and rebounding. If you do those things well, you will have a good chance of winning. Relying on 3pt shooting to win games just doesn't work and it never has.
I know you're angry because the Lakers are shoving their s in your teams mouth. Probably best you step away from the computer.
When did I ever say it wasn't?
But I know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
You want to say the Lakers are the best team in basketball when healthy and right, I won't argue. They should be the favorite.
Dismissing the Spurs on the basis of them being a chucker when they rank 8th in 3PA, the last time they won a championship they ranked 7th, the Lakers ranked 10th last year and 7th and 9th in '01 and '02 in the same category?
Full Re , by definition.
They don't chuck 3s. Re Lakerfan just likes to use that as an insult. The largest detriment to the Spurs, as we all know, is they can't matchup with LA's size.
The Spurs are primarily a jumpshooting team with no interior presence whatsoever.
Tim Duncan just isn't capable of anchoring the paint like he used to.
The Spurs' problems aren't matching up with the Lakers offensively. Their offense is more than fine - as much as the typical fanboy uses outliers like blowouts to jump to conclusions. It's the other end of the court. That's where the Lakers' size kills em. On the offensive board, mostly.
Spurs are forced to scramble to match-up and that's when the Lakers - if Kobe's playing intelligent, team-ball - can kill the Spurs and most teams. Keep the ball going inside first and swinging constantly, the Lakers should get a quality shot every ing time when patient.
Spurs problems lie in matching up defensively. It has nothing to do with the amount of 3's they shoot...
Then you are in denial if you claim they don't chuck 3's. And this is why I'm here to hammer away that point.
In wins the Spurs chuck from 3 at 42%
In losses the Spurs chuck at a 30% clip.
Hmmm, I wonder what the key to SA's success has been this season.... Must be that dominant big man Tim Duncan.
Does your re ed brain understand the definition of "chucking" as it pertains to basketball? You know, to take ill-advised, forced shots that are not created by the offense. When the Spurs shoot a 3, it's usually wide open and comes from either a double down on Duncan, or penetration by Manu or Parker. So Venti was right when he stated that the Spurs play inside/out. The Spurs' inside/out game is not as traditional as it once was with Duncan as the primary facilitator, and now relies more on Manu and Parker getting into the lane to create those open shots for the 3pt shooters, but it's still "inside/out" nonetheless.
I'm surprised you're not more familiar with the concept of chucking after watching your hero routinely chuck the Lakers out of games and championships ('04, anybody? And of course he tried to do it in last year's Game 7, but luckily for the most overrated player in league history, Gasol wouldn't let him and the Lakers fail).
You know absolutely jack about basketball. So I advise you to avoid serious discussions on here and continue to do what you do best. Sucking Kobe's .
That's not inside outside and you, Venti or anyone else who claims a guard driving into the paint is the equivalent of an "inside" game in the sport of basketball is a bona fide moron void of any basketball knowledge.
Seriously, how ing stupid do you have to be to think Manu or Tony driving = an inside game.
@ you and your complete lack of basketball knowledge psychotic fanboy.
Guard penetration has a similar effect on the defense as a good post-player. Both collapse the defense and open up the perimeter for the shooters. By strict definition, that is an "inside/outside" game.That's not inside outside and you, Venti or anyone else who claims a guard driving into the paint is the equivalent of an "inside" game in the sport of basketball is a bona fide moron void of any basketball knowledge.
Seriously, how ing stupid do you have to be to think Manu or Tony driving = an inside game.
@ you and your complete lack of basketball knowledge psychotic fanboy.
You're trying to spin it like the Spurs dribble the ball up and take the first 3 point shot that presents itself, and is that far, far, far from the case. They work the ball inside, either through Duncan, or through penetration, and then pass to the open shooters if they don't have a scoring opportunity.
And that's what Venti and I were alluding to. The Spurs look to score inside before they take a 3.
So your idea of them being a 3 point "chucking" team is re ed. They are not.
history2bThat's not inside outside and you, Venti or anyone else who claims a guard driving into the paint is the equivalent of an "inside" game in the sport of basketball is a bona fide moron void of any basketball knowledge.
Seriously, how ing stupid do you have to be to think Manu or Tony driving = an inside game.
@ you and your complete lack of basketball knowledge psychotic fanboy.
Bent over, ass wide open
His cornfield awaits...
Lol that's not an "inside" game whether you or any other Spurs (including House Negro Venti) wants to rationalize it on a message board.
That's not playing inside out. Having a reliable low post scoring threat who plays with his back to the basket is very different and has a completely different effect.
Basketball IQ required.
Way to go dumb psycho boy.
You made the claim. Tell us how the Spurs are a 3 point "chucking" team?
Yes or no? Are most 3s they take an open shot?
Yes or no? Are most 3 point shot opportunities a result of Duncan doubled in the post or off of penetration?
And please elaborate how "vastly different" the effects a post-player has on the offensive game as opposed to a penetrator.
Both collapse the defense.
Both produce open shots for perimeter shooters.
Both put pressure on the opponent's defensive bigs.
Both produce high percentage shots.
Both produce a greater likelihood of getting to the free-throw line.
The differences are:
You can double and triple team a post-player, which is similar to the interior defense collapsing on a penetrator.
A post-player has a better field of view of the perimeter than a penetrator.
You can also argue that a post-player wears out opposing bigs more and gets them in foul trouble faster. But this all depends on the player. Lebron James will probably get opposing bigs in foul trouble quicker than a finesse post-player like Gasol.
All in all, there's many similarities which can't be denied. But your massive ego will never allow you to concede a point or admit that you were wrong.
So again, just keep doing what you do here. Sucking Kobe's .
Every time you try to talk basketball, you fail miserably.
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