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    Everyone in those countries gets that vacation, by law. The zero you see under the US is the legal required vacation you must provide by law.
    Okay, there's no law. Yet, somehow, damn near all of us are getting vacation and holidays anyways. How can that be?

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    Okay, there's no law. Yet, somehow, damn near all of us are getting vacation and holidays anyways. How can that be?
    I know. How in the world can this be accomplished without a Bureau of PTO? We're some kind of amazing over-achievers I guess.

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    So do you not want someone who works his ass off while there but only wants to work 40 hours per week? I just do not equate quan y of hours at a job with work ethic. Rather, it is the quality and dedication while at work that reflect one's work ethic. Some people work hard when they get home, too.
    I think they aren't saying that every person who demands extra hours is necessarily a hard worker, but that there is a correlative relationship that they have noticed with their employees. As to your last sentence, I don't think that most employers care about how hard a work ethic one has in their home life.

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    Yes I was drunk, no I am not ashamed. Griping about the goodies others get smacks of ingra ude.
    Governments love people like you - complacent with being exploited.

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    Governments love people like you - complacent with being exploited.
    Finding peace and hapiness within your cir stances is not necessarily complacency.

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    Finding peace and hapiness within your cir stances is not necessarily complacency.
    Any affinity for the present is a bourgeois plot.

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    We will never be happy until....

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    Governments love people like you - complacent with being exploited.
    Good thing governments aren't exploiting anyone who wants more government goodies...........

    Or maybe WH is complacent because he doesn't see a need for the government to mandate something that we're already getting.

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    Any affinity for the present is a bourgeois plot.
    One flipside of utopian horizon-gazing is the gnostic intuition of a completely corrupted world in which humanity has already been extinguished. Hence the need for revolutionary cadres (or reforming elites) to lead dehumanized man to his salvation.

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    Why do workers in other western countries enjoy a stronger social contract? I work with Kiwis, Brits, Aussies and occasionally some Northern Europeans and they can't believe the Americans gotta put up with, health care cost and pitiful vacations especially. American exceptionalism, ain't it grand?

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    Or maybe WH is complacent because he doesn't see a need for the government to mandate something that we're already getting.
    There's that, sure. I'm also doing more or less exactly what I want to with my life right now, so that figures in too.

    I don't feel exploited; others envy labor conditions elsewhere. Vive la difference.

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    One flipside of utopian horizon-gazing is the gnostic intuition of a completely corrupted world in which humanity has already been extinguished. Hence the need for revolutionary cadres (or reforming elites) to lead dehumanized man to his salvation.
    Reform is an intoxicating liquor, and much like the real thing provides meaning for some.

    I'm content to read, write, and enjoy the sunshine and the comedy of man. And imbibe a little. Life's too short to save the world. Save yourself, if you must.

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    In vino veritas.

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    Why do workers in other western countries enjoy a stronger social contract? I work with Kiwis, Brits, Aussies and occasionally some Northern Europeans and they can't believe the Americans gotta put up with, health care cost and pitiful vacations especially. American exceptionalism, ain't it grand?
    From a historical standpoint, yup, it's been pretty grand.

    Today, maybe not so much. Pitiful vacations? No comprende.

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    Reform is an intoxicating liquor, and much like the real thing provides meaning for some.
    The absence of reform can be intoxicating too. The bottle marked "banking reform" has scarcely been touched yet, and the market recently rose on the release of the 27 page description of the state AGs settlement with the banks, related to foreclosure.

    (The ongoing willingness of enforcement to defer to the banks is a de facto abdication of the obligation of the state to protect its citizens from criminality.)

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    Enforcing the existing goddam laws now counts as banking reform. me.

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    Obama needs Wall Street money for reelection, so he can't kick them in the balls. Simple as that.

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    I don't feel exploited;

    I assume you pay taxes.

    Taxes are supposed to be spent back on the people, on infrastructure. Schools, roads, police, stuff like that. Things that everyone uses and everyone benefits from.

    Turns out that's not what your money is doing.





    Here are some pallets of $100 bills. $12 billion of them were shipped to Iraq and disappeared.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/feb/08/usa.iraq1



    Notice how all the school districts have to take out loans?

    NISD is taking out $500,000,000 loans every three years:
    http://bond.nisd.net/

    That's because they're sending pallets of your money overseas, and schools here need extra money just to function.

    These bonds are loaned by massive banks. Now you are taxed more, and the banks now take a portion of your taxes as profit for themselves.

    Banks provide a useful, essential service to humanity, but I don't think many people would argue that banks are important enough to account for 41% of all corporate profit in the USA.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...iet-coup/7364/

    They did though, and took 41% of all US corporate profit for a couple of years, until a crash. We know how that ended.

    With the government printing up money and giving it to them.

    And what did your loan buy you?

    http://www.window.state.tx.us/comptr...and/wws0512ed/

    * Texas is #49 in verbal SAT scores in the nation (493) and #46 in average math SAT scores (502).
    * Texas is #36 in the nation in high school graduation rates (68%).
    * Texas is #33 in the nation in teacher salaries. Teacher salaries in Texas are not keeping pace with the national average. The gains realized from the last state-funded across-the-board pay raise authorized in 1999, which moved the ranking from 33 to as high as 26th in the nation, have disappeared over the last five years.
    * Texas was the only state in the nation to cut average per pupil expenditures in fiscal year 2005, resulting in a ranking of #40 nationally; down from #25 in fiscal year 1999.
    * Texas is #6 in the nation in student growth. The general student population in Texas public schools grew by 11.1% between school years 1999 and 2005, with the largest percent of growth seen among low income and minority children.
    * Between school years 1999 and 2005, the number of central administrators employed by Texas public schools grew by 32.5%, overall staffing in public schools grew by 15.6%, while the number of teachers grew only 13.3%.



    Don't "give a " about any of that though. Get back to work.

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    I don't think that most employers care about how hard a work ethic one has in their home life.
    The employer may not care but it still speaks to a person's work ethic, in my view. Someone who works at work and is a lazy ass at home does not truly have an innate work ethic. It is about making money at their job, and not a built in personal standard about how one should do what they do wherever they do it. I do not think it only applies to one's job for pay to define the work ethic an individual has. Someone may work extremely hard for a charity and that shows his or her work ethic.

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    Don't "give a " about any of that though. Get back to work.
    (ehem)

    It's my day off.

    Are you already familiar with my views on education and national defense, or did you just jump to conclusions?

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    How'd you get so familiar with what I give a about, greyforest? You clairvoyant or something?

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    (The context was paid vacation time fergawdsakes.)

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    Wow...what a bunch of vapid stats, none of which actually support what you are saying.
    There's alot of dots you haven't connected here.

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    (ehem)

    It's my day off.

    Are you already familiar with my views on education and national defense, or did you just jump to conclusions?
    The discontented assume they are surrounded by their enemies.

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    And they assume the generally contented are content with their strawmen.

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