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    Why the Spurs won't be able to beat the Lakers in the playoffs?

    Because the Lakers will be beaten by the Mavs on the 2nd round.

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    lakerfan is still worried.

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    Why the Spurs won't be able to beat the Lakers in the playoffs?

    Because the Lakers will be beaten by the Mavs on the 2nd round.
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    Spurs make these clowns cry...word to 2003.

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    RJ is the X-Factor for the Spurs. Calling him ineffective against LA is a complete farce. If RJ is agressive in his play, the Spurs beat the Lakers. When he isn't, the Spurs lose.

    Game 1: Spurs win.

    6-14 FGM/A
    2-8 3ptM/A
    7 REB
    2 Assists
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    15 pts

    Game 2: Spurs win

    7-12 FGM/A
    4-8 3ptM/A
    1 Rebound
    1 Assist
    1 Block
    18 pts

    Game 3: Spurs lose

    0-3 FGM/A
    0-1 3ptM/A
    1 Rebound
    0 Assists
    1 Block
    1 pts

    It all depends on which RJ shows up. The passive or aggressive one. There were a few times when RJ could have had a shot, but passed it up during the loss. It pissed me off something fierce. I hope the man brings it, because if he doesn't the Spurs could very well be beaten by the Lakers.

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    If RJ is your X-Factor then I'm afraid all hope is lost.

    Good season though.

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    If RJ is your X-Factor then I'm afraid all hope is lost.

    Good season though.
    Damn, still keeping this troll thread going I see.....

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    Damn, still keeping this troll thread going I see.....
    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...8&postcount=59

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    OK. Either you must have me confused with some other guy, or you don't know how to read....Because if you havent noticed under my user name, it says "Team-San Antonio Spurs."

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    OK. Either you must have me confused with some other guy, or you don't know how to read....Because if you havent noticed under my user name, it says "Team-San Antonio Spurs."
    scro you're one of the biggest LBJ/Heat chuggers in the NBA Forum.

    This is a fact

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    scro you're one of the biggest LBJ/Heat chuggers in the NBA Forum.

    This is a fact
    Whatever you say troll, you win. If it makes your day, I'll let you have it....

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    Duncan:

    First game: 29 minutes, 1-7 fgs, 2pts, 4 rebs, 0 blks
    Second game: 33 minutes, 3-12 fgs, 8pts, 8 rebs, 2 blks
    Third game: 23 minutes, 1-7 fgs, 2pts, 7 rebs, 0 blks

    Bynum:

    First game: 22 min, 4-4 fgs, 10pts, 7 rebs, 1 blk
    Second game: 29 min, 4-7 fgs, 10pts, 10 rebs, 3 blks
    Third game: 27 min, 2-2 fgs, 4 pts, 17 rebs, 3 blks
    I would be worried, if the Spurs had lost to the Lakers with a 20-10 of Tim.

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    Whatever you say troll, you win. If it makes your day, I'll let you have it....
    We can look up some of your pro-Heat posts if you find my answer unsatisfactory.

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    I think the Lakers will be really tough to beat, and they are the favorites until proven otherwise.
    Here is my opinion on the topic:
    Duncan is still a very good defender. Is he a little slower than he used to be? yes, but his timing is great. The part of Duncan I am worried about is his offense. I have been saying to myself all year that he has just been biding his time for the playoffs but now I'm genuinely concerned. I mean, he cant be that much worse than he was last year in the playoffs when he was pretty good against the mavs. bottom line is I'm just hoping I was right and he has been biding his time.
    I think the spurs are a much better defensive team than they get credit for. aside from the occasional lapse, they turn up the defense when they need to. I also think Manu is an excellent defender and at times will be used against kobe. But what he is really good at is help defense which I think is a lot rarer for a guard. The only position where I think we are really weak at defensively is the center spot.
    Anyways, the Lakers are good without question. and i know that come playoff time they will be ready to compete, I just hope Tim Duncan's offensive game makes an appearance and I think we definitely have a shot

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    We can look up some of your pro-Heat posts if you find my answer unsatisfactory.
    Did you unable to find somebody to you in LA forum and looking for someone here?

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    You're totally missing the point of the Spurs offense, the Spurs don't rely on isolations or matchups that draw double teams. Rather the offense is centered around pick and rolls with Manu or tony with the ball. And yes for teams to cover the pick and roll between say Manu and Tim, they need to send an extra man , normally a wing which opens up the corners for free threes, So in essence the impact is similar to drawing a double team. I think your premise is flawed and narrow minded, there are other ways of drawing a man to free up shooters.

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    I would be worried, if the Spurs had lost to the Lakers with a 20-10 of Tim.
    I don't believe a 20-10 Tim exists against the Lakers anymore. Evidence, win or lose for SA, supports that. They are just too big/athletic for him.

    You're totally missing the point of the Spurs offense, the Spurs don't rely on isolations or matchups that draw double teams. Rather the offense is centered around pick and rolls with Manu or tony with the ball. And yes for teams to cover the pick and roll between say Manu and Tim, they need to send an extra man , normally a wing which opens up the corners for free threes, So in essence the impact is similar to drawing a double team. I think your premise is flawed and narrow minded, there are other ways of drawing a man to free up shooters.
    LA switches on all perimeter pick and roll. Phil has always done that - hence why SA has struggled shooting the 3 vs LA in the playoffs. But now, they aren't sending Bynum out of the paint area. If the P&R is his man, they aren't going to try to trap to stop dribble penetration - they are just funneling it right to Bynum.

    We saw that in the last game, after Parker and Ginobili got their shot blocked or had to alter it a couple times, they weren't looking to aggressively score off P&R because they knew the result. So they would dribble through the paint a few times and kick it back out but the defense was still set.

    At one point in the 2nd quarter, Parker drove off a scramble situation and Fisher/Kobe collapsed although Bynum was already there. Parker kicked it out to Bonner for an open 3 he nailed. After LA's next offensive possession, you can see Chuck Person giving instructions to the D about not helping out Bynum and to stay at home. I don't think SA got an open 3 the rest of the game.

    If LA sticks to this defensive plan, SA would be in serious trouble.

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    your exercise videos sucks

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    Spurs have been beating good teams all season, and the rare occasion lakers do it, they become unbeatable all of a sudden, give me a break lol

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    your exercise videos sucks
    You lack the proper motivation. Put down the cheetos and get your ass in gear

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    Spurs have been beating good teams all season, and the rare occasion lakers do it, they become unbeatable all of a sudden, give me a break lol
    Records mean something. Since the 82 game format has been in place, 15 teams have reached the 65 win pleateau. Of those 15 teams 12 went on to win the NBA Championship. I like those odds.

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    Spurs have been beating good teams all season, and the rare occasion lakers do it, they become unbeatable all of a sudden, give me a break lol
    Every team that plays LA treats the Lakers like a playoff game. It's the one time of the year (maybe 2nd - Heat) that their arenas our packed and energy is brought to their lifeless cities. Essentially, the Lakers play 82 games against teams exhibiting playoff intensity.

    Nobody cares about the Spurs...teams treat their game with the same apathy as the Pistons.

    These are things we know.

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    Offense is not the Spurs' problem. Manu, Parker, TD, and the cast of role players have more than enough offensive ability. The last game the Spurs did a really ty job of going into Bynum's or Gasol's body to draw contact for a foul and/or create space to get a better shot up. Manu and Parker were getting by their man, they just hesitated when they saw a big in the paint. I have no idea why. Those guys have faced stiffer interior defenses on their way to championships before (the '05 Pistons), and they learned how to attack it. Those guys are going to find a way to score.

    It's the defensive that is the problem and has been all year. Everyone is going to have nights where the offense isn't clicking, but when your defense, primarily interior, is average at the same time, you're going to lose big, which is exactly what happened.

    I wish the Spurs would've made a move at the deadline to shore it up. Presti in OKC got the memo and got Nazr and Perkins.

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    I agree that TP is the key for the Spurs versus the Lakers, as he is against many teams.

    I also agree that the Lakers present some matchup problems - though TBH, I think the Mavs present more match up problems for the Spurs - but I don't think they're insurmountable by any means. As people have noted, the Spurs have defeated the Lakers at full strength once this season. The key is isolating Kobe and forcing him to do too much and take bad shots (Hill and Manu are both very good at this), for Blair, Duncan, and Dice to body up Gasol and Bynum (they're also quite effective at this when they want to be) and for Parker to drive, drive, drive and break down the Lakers defense (he's excellent at this most of the time).

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    We can look up some of your pro-Heat posts if you find my answer unsatisfactory.
    I'm not biased or unbiased towards the Heat. I've actually had pro-Heat and anti-Heat posts so whatever you say. I even made a joke about how it was probably the vet Heat players who were crying after the Bulls game because they realized that after jumping on the train, they probably arent going to get a ring still...

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