Reminder: Rick Perry wants to keep government out of your medical affairs.........

[Viva Las Espuelas]

You brought up planned parenthood.

I don't know if this is directed towards me. It probably is since you tend to openly respond to me for whatever reason. Anywho, CC brought up planned parenthood.

[CosmicCowboy]

You brought up planned parenthood. MB brought up abortion being a white progressives method of keeping the brown people in check.

Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit, CC. They're in those neighborhoods not to target, as you put it, but rather because thats where the people need access to low cost services. The people in Stone Oak just go to their OB GYN.

Oh c'mon Manny...MB said...

A reality in which white "progressives" clamor for the support of an organization which purposely locates itself in majority, poor non-white neighborhoods to exterminate large numbers of non-white children would seem like a Klansman's fantasy come true.

Who did you THINK he was talking about?

[MannyIsGod]

I don't know if this is directed towards me. It probably is since you tend to openly respond to me for whatever reason. Anywho, CC brought up planned parenthood.

It was directed at CC but I did actually LOL at the thought of me paying you special attention. I'm equal opportunity.

[MannyIsGod]

Oh c'mon Manny...MB said...



Who did you THINK he was talking about?

Fair enough, CC.

[Wild Cobra]

The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics.... We are convinced that racial regeneration, like individual regeneration, must come 'from within.' That is, it must be autonomous, self-directive, and not imposed from without.

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Negro participation in planned parenthood means democratic participation in a democratic idea. Like other democratic ideas, planned parenthood places greater value on human life and the dignity of each person. Without planning at birth, the life of Negroes as a whole in a democratic world cannot be planned.

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As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle compe ion between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feebleminded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation.

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The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it

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Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race

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We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.

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Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock

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Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems

[Viva Las Espuelas]

"progress"ives lol

[RandomGuy]

It is what it is. I don't remember seeing any planed parenthood offices out in Stone Oak...

You generally won't in areas where people tend to have health insurance.

[RandomGuy]

Meh. Sanger was a white person alive around 1900. Her views were not altogether unique concerning eugenics.

[Bartleby]

Meh. Sanger was a white person alive around 1900. Her views were not altogether unique concerning eugenics.

In fact, they weren't much different than Teddy Roosevelt's.

[Bartleby]

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[Viva Las Espuelas]

Meh. Sanger was a white person alive around 1900. Her views were not altogether unique concerning eugenics.

http://www.google.com/m/search?sourc...d%20parenthood

Yeah. Nothing unique about her at all. I'm not sure why you had to point out she was white but I guess that's how you roll.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Rick Perry --born 1950-- is a baby boomer.

[CosmicCowboy]

We get it. FuzzyLumpkins is all butt hurt over baby boomers.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We get it. FuzzyLumpkins is all butt hurt over baby boomers.

You get it.

I really do not give a what you have to say if you do not even try and have a discourse.

Born before 1960?

[Marcus Bryant]

MB, you and I don't see eye to eye on very many things

I'm not sure of that. You are still "libertarian" no?

but the idea that abortion is a white progressive's method of keeping the brown people in check is one of the weirdest stances you've ever come up with.

That is the outcome. As for intent, we'll have to assume that most are ignorant of, or oblivious to, how abortion rates differ drastically among different races. Further, we'll have to assume that an organization who provides these services to poor women is not aware of those differing rates.

For example, in 2006, the rate among African-Americans was 3.5 times higher than among whites and 2.5x greater than the entire US population (Table 99.)

666k children born to African-American mothers in 2006.

20.25 million African-American female citizens in 2007.

45% of African-Americans are aged 15-44.

Assume that 9.16 million African-American women are between the ages of 15 and 44.

Based on an abortion rate of 50.2 per 1,000 African-American women aged 15-44, that's approximately 458k pregnancies of African-American women (40.7% of all African-American pregnancies) that were ended by abortion in 2006.

If the abortion numbers do support your stance, and I don't know because I've never looked at a demographic breakdown, then I think you need a refresher on causation and correlation.

I need no such thing.

If minorities are having more abortions than whites (and this seems reasonable to be quite honest) then it likely has more to do with increased birth rates stemming from several factors including poverty, lower education levels, etc etc.

Of course it couldn't happen to have anything to do with the location of facilities in the African-American community by an organization offering abortion services. The results are appalling and have been a de facto genocide of an entire generation of African-Americans, no matter the rationalization.

Now we have to pretend that most are unaware of the magnitude of abortions among African-American women, in particular those who provide them and those who stridently advocate its legality. Benign ignorance, I guess, is the best defense.

Yes, this is not to say that there are not good arguments for restraining the reach of the state in family matters. But antiseptic arguments about "choice" fail to touch on the stark reality of abortion as it is practiced in these United States.

We presume good intentions for policy makers and advocates, and that a distressing result such as this would weigh heavily on one's conscience.

The Klan could not have created a better program for its goals, regardless of whatever factors you think will cloud the practice as it is.

[Wild Cobra]

Meh. Sanger was a white person alive around 1900. Her views were not altogether unique concerning eugenics.

True, but the point is that planned parenthood started with those values, and appear to have never left those values behind.