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    I don't receive any en lements from the federal government.
    Fine, send them back when you get them.

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    Fine, send them back when you get them.
    And, when do you anticipate that will be?

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    Well, if I thought the government should be in the broadcast business, I'd say, sure; fix it. But, since I don't hold that view, defunding seems the appropriate option, to me.
    Then why didn't you just say that? That's perfectly reasonable. Why do you keep trying to convince us that Public Broadcast is a wasteful ins ution because the people at the top of the organization are a bunch of terrorist-sympathizing liberals?

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    When you open your mailbox one day.

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    Then why didn't you just say that? That's perfectly reasonable. Why do you keep trying to convince us that Public Broadcast is a wasteful ins ution because the people at the top of the organization are a bunch of terrorist-sympathizing liberals?
    Disagreement requires demonization, which provides him with confirmation of personal rightness and righteousness.

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    Then why didn't you just say that? That's perfectly reasonable.
    I have said that before.

    Why do you keep trying to convince us that Public Broadcast is a wasteful ins ution because the people at the top of the organization are a bunch of terrorist-sympathizing liberals?
    Because, I think that's the case, as well.

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    When you open your mailbox one day.
    Nah, I don't think so.

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    Of course.

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    Then why didn't you just say that? That's perfectly reasonable.
    Yoni's method is to wrap a kernel of truth or common sense in a skein of begged questions, exaggerations, half-lies and dire improbabilities so long, that it takes forever to unwrap it -- supposing of course that one has previously deemed it worthy of unwrapping. The possibility is temptingly easy to overlook.

    Or, Yoni merely liked what you said and agreed with it.
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    Yoni's method is to wrap a kernel of truth or common sense in a skein of begged questions, exaggerations, half-lies and dire improbabilities so long, that it takes forever to unwrap it -- supposing of course that one has previously deemed it worthy of unwrapping. The possibility is temptingly easy to overlook.

    Or, Yoni merely liked what you said and agreed with it.
    Or, it could be that I've long held the position the government shouldn't be in the broadcast business and was making an entirely different point that public broadcasting, as it currently exists in America -- particularly, at NPR, is a prime example of why government shouldn't be in the broadcast business.

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    See how easy it is to be understood once you remove all the propagandistic cant and hyperbole?

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    Shameless theft from one morning over at reddit, but:



    edit: Haywood Jabuzoff- I'll tell you how to spell that later, I say to the stenographer!



    The House on Thursday voted to strip National Public Radio's federal funding, a move that followed the release of a "sting" video showing an NPR executive criticizing the Republican Party and saying the station didn't need millions of dollars in federal money.

    The measure passed 228-192, mostly along party lines, after a vigorous debate over the merits of public radio and the need for the government to reduce spending in the wake of a $1.3 trillion debt and $14 trillion deficit that threaten the economy.

    "The object of this bill is to get NPR out of the taxpayer's pocket," said Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn. "It is time for us to be good stewards and save the money of the American taxpayer."

    NPR receives about $90 million in federal funding annually, but the Congressional Budget Office calculated that the net savings from defunding the network would be zero.

    Democrats seized on the CBO analysis and ridiculed the GOP for trying to silence popular public radio programs like "Prairie Home Companion" and "Car Talk" for their own political reasons.

    "This legislation is no more than an ideological attack on public radio masquerading as a fiscal issue," said Rep. David Cicilline, D-R.I.
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    30 million listeners for NPR. Keep attacking it, GOP, the NPR listeners are Watching You.

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    Or, it could be that I've long held the position the government shouldn't be in the broadcast business and was making an entirely different point that public broadcasting, as it currently exists in America -- particularly, at NPR, is a prime example of why government shouldn't be in the broadcast business.
    What specifically on NPR did you find so objectionable?

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    "particularly, at NPR, is a prime example of why government shouldn't be in the broadcast business."

    NPR is prime example of why not-for-profit taxpayer supported journalism should exist.

    Corporations have destroyed/monetized all other TV journalism into fawning, compliant lapdogs to corporate/establishmet objective$.

    That NPR is left-wing, commie is Just Another Repug/Fox Propaganda Lie.

    Of course, Yoni pops in with his check-box conservative position against NPR as dictated by his policy dictators.
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    I didn't realize so many of the conservatives on this board listened to NPR..You guys have..right? All of these opinions on the content I would assume you have actually listened to the station... or are you guys just repeating what you've heard?

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    "I feel like public radio should address this directly, because I think anybody who listens to our stations understands that what they're hearing is mainstream media reporting," Glass said. "We have nothing to fear from a discussion of what is the news coverage we're doing. As somebody who works in public radio, it is killing me that people on the right are going around trying to basically rebrand us, saying that it's biased news, it's left wing news, when I feel like anybody who listens to the shows knows that it's not. And we are not fighting back, we are not saying anything back. I find it completely annoying, and I don't understand it."

    Glass acknowledged that journalists tend to be more liberal than the general public, but he said "that doesn't change what is going out over the air."

    "Go through this morning's 'Morning Edition' and find me even a sentence that smells like political bias to you," he said. "Like find one."
    At best, Colbert hit the nail on the head when he said that, "reality has a well-known liberal bias."

    The only thing remotely left wing about NPR is that it isn't the stuff of the spin fantasy world; Fox Propoganda Network. Conservative s s are terrified of actual reporting, actual reality, actual Unbias. Anyway, good job on your token house vote. Good luck, yoni and the rest of the bag GOP nation, that's about as far as you're gonna get.

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    This quasi-non-square-peg conservative has been a supporter of NPR for about 10 years. And I've got the coffee mugs and aprons to prove it.

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    hyper-politicized, hyper-polarizing Fox Repug Propaganda network and Repugs are simply "who's not with us is against us", are not legimate.

    For them, there is no neutral, no middle, no independence. And anything that is not with them must be destroyed, eliminated.

    Tolerating these intolerant assholes gets you screwed, as Barry has found as he searches in vain, stupidly for compromises.

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    NPR’s Morning Shows Are Bigger than Fox News and Rush Limbaugh

    Here’s why Fox News is always trying to defund NPR. In 2010, Morning Edition and All Things Considered averaged 13 million and 12 million plus listeners each. In 2011 Fox and Friends have an audience of 1.09 million, while Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh’s radio shows are in decline.

    While the top rated Fox and Friends averages 1.09 million, FNC’s daytime lineup averages 1.085 million. Before anyone on the right grumbles about an apples and oranges comparison, consider that in the spring of 2010 Glenn Beck only had 9 million listeners. Rush Limbaugh, who depending on the market, had 15 million listeners, and Sean Hannity had 14 million listeners.

    Today, Limbaugh is now down to 10 million listeners, and Hannity is down to around 9 million. Glenn Beck’s radio ratings dipped 39% at one point. For all the talk of the strength of the right wing media, the point remains that they cater to a relatively small audience. They are loud, but they are not huge. No wonder Fox News and the right wing talkers are so desperate to defund NPR.

    http://www.politicususa.com/en/npr-f...iticus+USA+%29

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    NPR’s Morning Shows Are Bigger than Fox News and Rush Limbaugh

    Here’s why Fox News is always trying to defund NPR. In 2010, Morning Edition and All Things Considered averaged 13 million and 12 million plus listeners each. In 2011 Fox and Friends have an audience of 1.09 million, while Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh’s radio shows are in decline.

    While the top rated Fox and Friends averages 1.09 million, FNC’s daytime lineup averages 1.085 million. Before anyone on the right grumbles about an apples and oranges comparison, consider that in the spring of 2010 Glenn Beck only had 9 million listeners. Rush Limbaugh, who depending on the market, had 15 million listeners, and Sean Hannity had 14 million listeners.

    Today, Limbaugh is now down to 10 million listeners, and Hannity is down to around 9 million. Glenn Beck’s radio ratings dipped 39% at one point. For all the talk of the strength of the right wing media, the point remains that they cater to a relatively small audience. They are loud, but they are not huge. No wonder Fox News and the right wing talkers are so desperate to defund NPR.

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    All the more reason to defund them. If their audience truly is that big then they don't need taxpayer support.

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    Correct, they haven't needed taxpayer support for years, since the Gingrich Repugs went after NPR in the 90s.

    Only about 3% of their income is govt sources.

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    Boutons, again, you prove yourself to be a useful idiot for the left. That is not the reason at all. It all has to do with tax payer dollars going to what conservatives consider a partisan en y.

    Coyote, I agree with you.

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    Correct, they haven't needed taxpayer support for years, since the Gingrich Repugs went after NPR in the 90s.

    Only about 3% of their income is govt sources.
    Then you agree we can stop the subsidies, then there is no cause to complain. Right?
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    Correct, they haven't needed taxpayer support for years, since the Gingrich Repugs went after NPR in the 90s.

    Only about 3% of their income is govt sources.
    Great. So what's all the fuss about defunding them about? Just defund them and let's move on.

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