It *is* simply a matter of math, physics, and engineering, no different than any other challenge we have faced.
Throwing money at it by forming incubators for companies and technologies to let the private sector figure out which are the best technologies and solutions is entirely the answer.
Building out infrastructure will require capital, just like building out the infrastructure to support space shots was.
The problem with conserva s like you is that you don't seem to grasp how fast technology is moving and how fast the world itself is changing.
You wouldn't know the answer if it walked up and -slapped you.
Well tbh, I didn't read the article. I just went off what you posted.
you said protestors were shot then later on stated "gunfire". Shots were being fired. In the ing air, Up someones ass, in someone's mouth, who knows; Who ing cares !!!!!! You posted it. Quick being an arrogant know-it-all prick. You remind me of the arrogant know-it-all prick in good will hunting, but a whole lot lamer.
LOL @ the idealistic little "government subsidies for green energy are the answer" pissant.
What was your degree in and what do you do for a living? Mine was engineering and I'm in the business. I work with the new energy efficiency technology.
pissant
Meh.
I have little doubt that you may have once had some relevant knowledge or skillsets in this regard. I seem to remember as much.
What I seriously doubt is whether you really have a current knowledge base of everything going on.
People your age have a sad habit of not to keeping their knowledge base current. I have met no few people in their 60's and 70's whose skill sets and levels of knowledge base for what jobs they do/did became very out of date.
The kinds of stupid you have said and elsewhere does not lead me to have great confidence in your reasoning capabilities, degree or no.
More reading fail.
I never said protesters were shot, I chose my words rather carefully because there is not a lot of information.
If that makes me a "know it all prick", fine. I don't go off half ed saying stupid without really reading things.
As for "arrogant", I don't quite see how this qualifies.
I generally return what I am given, and didn't call anybody an "idiot" or anything here. I fully reserve the right, however, to call somebody whatever the I want to, if they are openly hostile and/or have no qualms about slinging profanities.If you read the article, no protestors were actually shot.
Yet.
No one really knows if the gunfire was rubber bullets, into the air or what as of now.
Generally I try not to, but even I have limits to my patience.
Finally, on being a know it all: I read voraciously. I don't make a habit of putting forth things as facts unless I can almost certainly back them up.
If you are insecure about that, it isn't my problem.
Damn, you ARE an arrogant little prick!
and you DO have a current knowledge base of "everything going on?"
People your age have a sad habit of not to keeping their knowledge base current. I have met no few people in their 60's and 70's whose skill sets and levels of knowledge base for what jobs they do/did became very out of date.
Yeah, 60 is REALLY OLD. Practically SENILE. Totally out of touch with the world. ing useless OLD PEOPLE unlike smartass punks like you that probably still live off their OLD PEOPLE parents.
The kinds of stupid you have said and elsewhere does not lead me to have great confidence in your reasoning capabilities, degree or no.
You took the words right out of my mouth, pissant.
Let's get some things clear here, because people like you love to distort other's views in what are known as "strawman" attacks. You don't like thinking that people who disagree with you might be either principled or intelligent, so you take what you think they believe and belittle it in rather dishonest ways.
1) Renewables are not *the* end-all be-all of energy. They will never really account for 100% of our energy needs, at least any time soon.
What they do offer is a way to have "home grown" energy sources that can substantially cut our trade deficit, in no small part caused by energy imports.
We will still need oil, still need coal, and still need nukes for as long as I will probably be alive.
Renewables are poised for some very solid growth in terms of % of our energy mix, simply because they are starting from such a small base %.
Seed research and incubation of technologies and industries has created entire sectors of the economy, and there is some good reason to think that can happen here.
I have no illusions or unrealistic expectations, but I know we can do a uva lot more than we are doing now to encourage this nascient sector.
Alright, the "old" crack was mean and unwarranted. I lost my temper a bit.
Damn, you ARE an arrogant little prick!
Yeah, 60 is REALLY OLD. Practically SENILE. Totally out of touch with the world. ing useless OLD PEOPLE unlike smartass punks like you that probably still live off their OLD PEOPLE parents.
You took the words right out of my mouth, pissant.
As was my pissant comment. I commend you for using your brain even if I don't always agree with your pronouncements.
My guess is that if there is an earth shaking breakthrough in renewable fuels it's going to come from the genetic engineering/biology side...like a super bug that eats cellulose and s west texas crude.
My data dump that causes me to be fairly bullish about renewables:
There are a lot of recent discoveries that are driving the costs of solar, both PV and thermal, down. Many projects are moving out of the test phases into the "let's see how commercially viable they are" phase. I have been studying the financials and company particulars that I can get my hands on. Have to take "pie in the sky" claims of management with a grain of salt, but there is enough there that *one* of those companies/techs will prove to be a winner.
One of the limits to those techs has been the economies of scale needed to really bring per unit costs down. Investments in Europe and China are changing that. That is one thing that is different today than in the past.
From an engineering standpoint, PV is making some solid efficiency gains due to advances in the chemistry. PV also offers, as you are certainly aware, a lot of benefit due to distributed power schemes.
They are experimenting with two different (that I know of) kinds of photosynthetic microorganisms to make oil fuels.
Wind costs are coming down due to the same economies of scale and investments in transmission capacity to where wind is economical.
Coal is getting sucked up at a rather alarming rate. This leads me to think that prices will go up as demand escalates, and various supplies begin to deplete. Oddly enough, oil prices will contribute to this, as mining and transporting tonnes and tonnes of coal starts edging prices up in some minor way.
Overall per joule costs for renewables are coming down, just as per joule costs for coal/oil/gas will likely go up.
Not saying they will pass each other in terms of which is more/less costly soon, but it is the *relative* costs that determine the mix.
Companies have different capital structures in terms of debt/capital depending on the costs of each, and different countries, have different energy structures/ratios in a similar fashion.
For electric cars:
There are some extremely promising battery technologies that have the potential to really shake things up, such as a sort of "thin film" method of production that could triple energy storage capacity on a per weight basis. This could actually make solar planes a LOT closer to reality.
Companies are investing in carbon composite manufacturing with the intention of taking it down from the "supercar" level to upper end luxury car level, a marked quantum leap that can be plausibly extrapolated into the future to go down the value chain.
I think that reasonable extrapolation of all of these trends leads to the conclusion that we will be using more electricity, and more of that electricity will be renewable. Renewable fuels such as bio-produced deisel may also make for an interesting twist. I don't see ethanol as being really all that compe ive, as it takes land/food away from feeding people, and that will really make it much less cost compe ive, as demand for food crops to feed people will always compete with demand for crops that are used to make fuel.
Mea culpa. I didn't check my post before I submitted it. It should've been
Don't try to out resume RG, he's an insurance salesman so he knows everything.
Wild Cobra knows more chemistry than I do.
Cosmic definitely knows more engineering than I do.
Manny knows more about weather than I do.
A lot of people here know more about their area of specialty than I do.
That is one of the reasons my outburst against CC is a bit embarrassing, because I am reasonably sure he is pretty good at his job.
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