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    That's WTC 7 after the two towers fell nearby. That damage combined with the fires inside weakened the support structure enough to bring it down.
    That's actually a building to the north of WTC7 damaged by the debris from building 7's collapse. It is useful in showing building 7 did not "fall in its own footprint" as many conspiracy nontheorists contend.

    Poland, since you have seen some of the contentions of the conspiracy nontheorist (I have yet to see an actual comprehensive theory from any of them), you should probably take a look at the other side of the argument as well. You may find it interesting.

    http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18

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    It was headquarters for some government agency, maybe disaster response? I forget, but the really, really hot embers landed on the building and caused it to get really, really hot itself, then it came down like a pancake, just like the other two buildings. The local officials deemed it to damaged to be used anymore so they "pulled" everyone from the building to limit further casualties.
    Huge chunks that fell off of the north twin tower and ripped through WTC7, starting fires on multiple floors.

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    That's actually a building to the north of WTC7 damaged by the debris from building 7's collapse. It is useful in showing building 7 did not "fall in its own footprint" as many conspiracy nontheorists contend.

    Poland, since you have seen some of the contentions of the conspiracy nontheorist (I have yet to see an actual comprehensive theory from any of them), you should probably take a look at the other side of the argument as well. You may find it interesting.

    http://forums.randi.org/local_links.php?catid=18
    Damn I have so many things on my head now that I think I will pass on that one esp. when I do not like to read at all.

    Might check something though

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    Damn I have so many things on my head now that I think I will pass on that one esp. when I do not like to read at all.

    Might check something though
    No problem. If you do choose to read further, I think you'll find that the conspiracy crowd is made up of folks who lie as much if not more than any politician you can think of.

    Now I expect mouse to carpet bomb the thread with YouTubes full of spooky synth music declare victory for whatever he won't say he thinks really happened on 9/11.

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    Since Chump has already demonstrated his patent way of taking the wheel a topic, for you new comers any voice you have that disagrees with his warped logic be ready to be called a tin foil hat wearing conspiracy nut.


    People like him Blake and Wildcobra don't use a portion of the brain that allows new and unexplained scenarios to be digested properly. It's like trying to get Ann Culter to wear a turtleneck, she's convinced her apple doesn't show and all the photos and videos will be ignored.

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    The only problem is that they have all been explained. When they are explained in a thread here, the explanation is ignored, the explainer is insulted and another YouTube is posted.

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    Things are only "explained" when "you" post them. Any 'other' post that doesn't conform to your simpleminded logic has no merit.

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    Things are only "explained" when "you" post them. Any 'other' post that doesn't conform to your simpleminded logic has no merit.
    In that those who try to push the conspiracy angle actually have no explanation as to what actually happened on 9/11, yes.

    Your failure to explain what you think really happened on 9/11 makes your posts merit-less.

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    So only those who know everything on every subject and has proof is allowed to address that subject?

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    nice to be reminded Mouse is still a dumbass.

    look i dont like Bush and i'm all for conspiracy theories but there's no way in a "secret" like that stays under wraps. you guys are reaching for straws.

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    If you were more active around here you wouldn't need the reminders.

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    So only those who know everything on every subject and has proof is allowed to address that subject?
    No one is persecuting you, mouse. I'm just calling your ranting tired and stupid. If you haven't come up with a theory after a decade, this must just not be that important to you.

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    I can't believe I read every post in this topic, I must be board.

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    No one is persecuting you, mouse. I'm just calling your ranting tired and stupid. If you haven't come up with a theory after a decade, this must just not be that important to you.

    So according to you I am all about rants and your all about proof and logic.

    same different package dude. You can spin your words around like a scrabble game all you want at the end of the day your bottom-line is
    "your right and "everyone else" is wrong always has been your motto always will be.

    As far as ranting goes I am not alone, for months Paul Allen ranted for Bill Gates to acquire basic before going to see IBM, why not get on his ass also?


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    So according to you I am all about rants and your all about proof and logic.

    same different package dude. You can spin your words around like a scrabble game all you want at the end of the day your bottom-line is
    "your right and "everyone else" is wrong always has been your motto always will be.

    As far as ranting goes I am not alone, for months Paul Allen ranted for Bill Gates to acquire basic before going to see IBM, why not get on his ass also?
    What did Paul Allen say really happened on 9/11?

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    I couldn't tell what he was really saying with all the ranting he did.

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    I couldn't tell what he was really saying with all the ranting he did.
    Now you know what we have to deal with.

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    So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

    (now you know what 'we' have to deal with)

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    So what do you think really happened on 9/11?

    (now you know what 'we' have to deal with)
    I think things happened basically as has been accepted for the last decade by people who actually investigated the incident. A bunch of Islamic terrorists hijacked several planes and crashed them into several landmarks when they were successful. The twin towers were destroyed due to the damage from the impact and the resulting fires. WTC7 was destroyed due to fires started when debris from WTC1 impacted it. Neither the US government nor agents of the US government were involved in the planning or execution of 9/11. There were no pods or missiles or directed energy weapons involved.

    That's it in a nuts .

    Since I told you what I think really happened on 9/11, now you can tell us all what you think really happened on 9/11.

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    The evidence proves of the late night maintenance going on weeks prior to the WTC attacks, occupants and maintenance men testified of power outages that were purposely done, and floors were late night drilling was done these floors were closed off to the occupants of the building. Bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the building.

    Take that info and add to the fact that Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother was in charge of security at the WTC and you have a clear case of False Flag like pearl Harbor. Anyone with Google or 6th grade reading education can see the facts staring at them in the face. Anyone who can't see the facts is either bias or has some sort of political agenda to hide the truth, or is just another ignorant SOB.

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    The evidence proves of the late night maintenance going on weeks prior to the WTC attacks, occupants and maintenance men testified of power outages that were purposely done, and floors were late night drilling was done these floors were closed off to the occupants of the building. Bomb sniffing dogs were removed from the building
    Since at least one bomb sniffing dog was killed in the collapse on 9/11, your story is bull .

    http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_bom...fing_dogs.html

    Take that info and add to the fact that Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother was in charge of security at the WTC and you have a clear case of False Flag like pearl Harbor. Anyone with Google or 6th grade reading education can see the facts staring at them in the face. Anyone who can't see the facts is either bias or has some sort of political agenda to hide the truth, or is just another ignorant SOB.
    I googled Marvin Bush.

    Turns out he was never in charge of security at the twin towers; that's the job of the Port Authority. Bush's company did some electronic work that ended in 1998 and Bush left the company in June 2000 before W was even nominated by the Republican party.

    http://www.911myths.com/html/stratesec.html

    After ten years this is all you can could up with?

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    Since at least one bomb sniffing dog was killed in the collapse on 9/11, your story is bull .
    So according to you if they find a dead raccoon then Daniel Boone must have been there also?

    Dude your really reaching when you pull out the dead dog card.


    Bomb Sniffing Dogs Removed From WTC Days Before Attack

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...gnoredclue.htm

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    I googled Marvin Bush.

    Turns out he was never in charge of security at the twin towers
    9/11 Security
    Courtesy of Marvin Bush


    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...1security.html



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    After ten years this is all you can could up with?
    How about some new evidence of explosives found in the debris?

    Explosive Evidence at WTC Cited by Former CDI Employee
    http://www.ae911truth.org/news/.../3...-employee.html

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    When they are explained in a thread here, the explanation is ignored, the explainer is insulted and another YouTube is posted.
    right on cue

    Anyone who can't see the facts is either bias or has some sort of political agenda to hide the truth, or is just another ignorant SOB.
    bravo. clap clap.

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