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    ing morons

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    Humans? Yes. Throwing stones in glass houses isn't wise though. What's going to happen when the next big quake hits the San Andreas fault? How many nuclear plants will be affected by that?

    There's one thing we should all be able to agree on - raising the level of radioisotopes in the environment is not good for human or environmental health, and the results can last far longer than this civilisation will due to the nature of many radioactive isoptopes. In other words, why the don't we get rational about the dangers of III gen nuclear power and put it on hold until we can build plants that won't melt down, and stable, long-term storage facilities for the waste they've already produced.

    PS I wouldn't believe a word coming out of Japan about this stuff. They have covered up nuclear accidents before, and their culture naturally acts to cover up anything shameful (I lived there for 2 years and have seen how it works). I hope the IAEA has people on the ground there to monitor this stuff properly.
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    Jesus... full scale-explosion reported.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/304616

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    And a radioactive plume 100miles long (at least).

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=13129409

    This will not end well.

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    That story is contradictory - there has been a hydrogen explosion, yet the reactor containment vessel is still intact!? Hmmmmm, sounds dubious to me. I saw footage of the explosion.

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    That story is contradictory - there has been a hydrogen explosion, yet the reactor containment vessel is still intact!? Hmmmmm, sounds dubious to me. I saw footage of the explosion.
    Agreed, but such are the pitfalls of reporting breaking news -- reporters are consolidating different accounts and probably not fact-checking critically.

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    "experts in Japan and the United States say the country is now facing a cascade of ac ulating problems that suggest that radioactive releases of steam from the crippled plants could go on for weeks or even months

    experts in Japan and the United States say the country is now facing a cascade of ac ulating problems that suggest that radioactive releases of steam from the crippled plants could go on for weeks or even months

    as one senior official put it, “under the best scenarios, this isn’t going to end anytime soon.” "

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/14/wo...er=rss&emc=rss

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    WH you should probably run a virus scan just for precaution
    Probably a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion.

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    What a horrible week for nuclear power and for people living in that region.

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    What I do know is that if that thing goes you can forget any new nuclear reactors in the United States.
    What exactly leads you to make that statement?
    That was a genuine question, but oh well.

    Any who, I heard something on Headline News, not Foe News, this morning and it was stated that GE designed all the reactors at that plant. I haven't verified the info but it kinda stood out to me. Hmm. I'm interested to see what comes of that, if it's true. Very interested.

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    That story is contradictory - there has been a hydrogen explosion, yet the reactor containment vessel is still intact!? Hmmmmm, sounds dubious to me. I saw footage of the explosion.
    Essentially you have a two layered s . There is the inner sealed core part of the reactor, and what amounts to a building built around that s .

    The explosion, albeit dramatic occured in the outer "s " building, blowing off the roof. (NPR story this morning heard on radio).

    Problematic is reports I have gotten that the cooling water has completely boiled away in one of these things.

    Meltdown of the exposed rods is happening now, and I use that word deliberately. What is happening in these reactors is, by any definition, a meltdown.

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    The Jap nuclear catastrophe will increase investors', Wall St's 30-year recalcitrance to finance US nukes, before any even discusses which technology.

    Their returns are much bigger and quicker elsewhere, esp in their rigged, tax-payer-backed casino.

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    That was a genuine question, but oh well.

    Any who, I heard something on Headline News, not Foe News, this morning and it was stated that GE designed all the reactors at that plant. I haven't verified the info but it kinda stood out to me. Hmm. I'm interested to see what comes of that, if it's true. Very interested.
    Your question was answered.

    My take from the whole thing is that if the Japanese, who *KNOW* that their reactors have to be hardened against quakes and presumedly have done so, still have problems like this after a giant quake makes me shudder at the aging nukes in the U.S.

    Massive earthquakes, although infrequent, still happen and not just in California:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1812_New_Madrid_earthquake

    Some sections of the Mississippi River appeared to run backward for a short time.[3] Sand blows were common throughout the area, and can still be seen from the air in cultivated fields. The shockwaves propagated efficiently through midwestern bedrock. Residents as far away as Pittsburgh and Norfolk were awakened by intense shaking.[5] Church bells were reported to ring as far as Boston, Massachusetts and York, Ontario (now Toronto), and sidewalks were reported to have been cracked and broken in Washington, D.C.[6] There were also reports of toppled chimneys in Maine.[citation needed]

    Eliza Bryan[7] in New Madrid, Territory of Missouri, wrote the following eyewitness account in March, 1812.

    On the 16th of December, 1811, about two o'clock, a.m., we were visited by a violent shock of an earthquake, accompanied by a very awful noise resembling loud but distant thunder, but more hoarse and vibrating, which was followed in a few minutes by the complete saturation of the atmosphere, with sulphurious vapor, causing total darkness. The screams of the affrighted inhabitants running to and fro, not knowing where to go, or what to do — the cries of the fowls and beasts of every species — the cracking of trees falling, and the roaring of the Mississippi — the current of which was retrograde for a few minutes, owing as is supposed, to an irruption in its bed — formed a scene truly horrible.

    The Shaker diarist Samuel Swan McClelland described the effects of the earthquake on the Shaker settlement at West Union (Busro), Indiana, where the earthquakes contributed to the temporary abandonment of the westernmost Shaker community.[8]
    Such a quake, happening today with an East Coast MUCH more built up, would have some *bad* effects.

    I am almost certain that there is at least one nuke in the US within range of any new quake from the same area that would be seriously hit.

    Right now, all we can do is cross our fingers, and that scares the out of me.

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    Well I was asking Manny, Professor Lambeau, but thanks for chiming in. Didn't see it.........cuz I asked Manny.

    Any who, your Fields Medal worthy response was great.

    But
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_835057.html

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    Central US map of nuclear power plants.

    ... and I was right.

    New Madrid lies about where MO, AK, TN, and KY kinda intersect, at the lower bit of MO that kinda juts down into Arkansas in the southeast corner.

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    Fuel rods in reactor No. 2 at Tokyo Electric Power's Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant were fully exposed when a cooling pump ran out of fuel on Monday, the power company said, according to Kyodo News service. Water levels were later restored to cover 30 centimeters of the lower rods, the report said.



    http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/14...o-help/?hpt=T1

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    just do not download any japanese movies, games, anime or porn and we should be ok

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    Just heard on CNN that the company who owns the power plant said that the fuel rods may be exposed again, but that they don't even know.

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    by any chance is this the Japanese company that owns the power plant?


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    pretty good article:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110314/...nuclear_crisis

    "While four Japanese nuclear complexes were damaged in the wake of Friday's twin disasters, the Dai-ichi complex, which sits just off the Pacific coast and was badly hammered by the tsunami, has been the focus of most of the worries over Japan's deepening nuclear crisis. All three of the operational reactors at the complex now have faced severe troubles.

    Operators knew the sea water flooding would cause a pressure buildup in the reactor containment vessels — and potentially lead to an explosion — but felt they had no choice if they wanted to avoid complete meltdowns. Eventually, hydrogen in the released steam mixed with oxygen in the atmosphere and set off the two blasts.

    Japan's meteorological agency did report one good sign. It said the prevailing wind in the area of the stricken plant was heading east into the Pacific, which experts said would help carry away any radiation.

    Across the region, though, many residents expressed fear over the situation.

    People in the port town of Soma had rushed to higher ground after a tsunami warning Monday — a warning that turned out to be false alarm — and then felt the earth shake from the explosion at the Fukushima reactor 25 miles (40 kilometers) away. Authorities there ordered everyone to go indoors to guard against possible radiation contamination.

    "It's like a horror movie," said 49-year-old Kyoko Nambu as she stood on a hillside overlooking her ruined hometown. "Our house is gone and now they are telling us to stay indoors.

    "We can see the damage to our houses, but radiation? ... We have no idea what is happening. I am so scared."

    Meanwhile, 17 U.S. military personnel involved in helicopter relief missions were found to have been exposed to low levels of radiation after the flew back from the devastated coast to the USS Ronald Reagan, an aircraft carrier about 100 miles (160 kilometers) offshore. "


    so the good news is the wind is blowing the other way???

    IMO this is already a meltdown and it will help more than a few ppl develop cancer.

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    The worse news is that reactor #3 that just blew and has the rods exposed uses different fuel than the other two...it uses fuel rods from "recycled" nuclear warheads and burns much hotter.

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    I wonder what the assumed probability for this scenario was when the plans for these reactors were laid.

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    A) Power
    B) Generators
    c) Battery

    IMO they ed up and actually thought plan C was a good idea. Yeah, millions of ppls lives are riding on the energizer bunny

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