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    Where did you find that?

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    For defending himself?
    There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying er. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.

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    There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying er. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.
    Disagree, the little knew the big guy could snap him in two before he started the fight.

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    There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying er. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.
    Who are you to decide how, or by what specific means he should defend himself? If that's what he knows how to do, then that's what he should do to defend himself.

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    There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying er. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.
    I wouldn't have handled it that way either, though I'll admit to enjoying the video.

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    There's defending yourself and there's bouncing a kid off pavement like a basketball. Don't get me wrong, I have zero sympathy for the little bullying er. Serves him right. However if you're capable of tossing someone around like that I have to believe that there's a more appropriate level of defense he could of resorted to.
    What a crock of . That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're probably one of those tree hugging kum ba ya pussies aren't you? I'm sure he didn't premeditate that you dumbass. It happened in the heat of the fight where there is no thinking, there is no rationalizing, there's just make sure you mess up the other guy more than he messes you up....simple.

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    He looks like the fat kid from Bad Santa.

    It would of been epic if he gave the kid the Razors Edge drop while spinning in a circle. Extra points if he threw a toothpick in his face prior.

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    I also think that when you mess with a kid that size, you're clearly taking a gamble that he could potentially hurt you pretty badly if he wanted to.

    I mean if all we had were these two kids, and you asked people who do you think would hit harder, or be stronger, you'd pick the bigger kid. It's not anybody's fault but his that he decided to bully a much bigger kid, hoping that he was too passive to do anything, but that was a bad gamble on his part, and it didn't pay off.

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    that's what i always thought?? that you had the right to defend yourself. i've ed some people up BAD after they swung at me first and never got charged with anything..
    I think part of the case is about responding with reasonable amount of force. So unless the guy comes at you with a deadly weapon (which is only his fists if he's Chuck Norris or Steven Seagal), you're going to jail if you use a knife or gun or car against him.

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    sadly in today's society it's always the one who hurts the other person worse who gets in trouble, if the law is called in to intervene. we have no rights anymore people, they're slowly evaporating. big brother wants you to learn to take it and shut up, no matter the case. standing up for yourself isn't something they want.
    Our society values keeping your cool. And so does the universe. Everyone knows these bullies get it from karma anyway.

    Will Smith: "let God deal with the things they do, if you let hate in your heart it will consume you too!"

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    If you use a knife or gun on someone in a fist fight you're a pussy tbh, different story if it's a robbery/mugging.

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    If someone starts punching you and you did not participate or did not provoke him then you can shoot him. Because he can knock you out and use your weapon against you. - Learned this on a CCW class.
    Several factors should be considered of course like gravity of the situation and weight and height difference specially when lawyers (w/c is almost certain) are present.
    And whether you can walk away without escalating the fight.

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    Our society values keeping your cool.
    That kid had every chance. If he had walked away right after hitting the kid four times, he wouldn't have gotten body slammed, but he didn't.

    That's keeping your cool.

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    lol wow wow wow!

    bully didn't look like we would pass as a bully.

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    sweetie i would never let anyone hurt you like that

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    man that could have been just if he landed on his head/neck

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    his leg is really broke??? lololol thats messed up
    No it isn't, it's awesome.

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    Who are you to decide how, or by what specific means he should defend himself? If that's what he knows how to do, then that's what he should do to defend himself.
    Because it's part of law. You're supposed to keep context in check. If a kid comes up and slaps you repeatedly on the face, you can't just whip out a crow bar and smash his face in. Look it up.


    It sort of taints the story that the bigger kid got 4 days, but he still ed him up nonetheless beyond what was necessary to subdue that tiny little . I agree with SFIE, no sympathy for that , but there are laws that state you cannot just retaliate in any type of defense that you want.

    If a woman starts hitting me, it would be unjust under the law for me to body slam her into the ground and bash her face in until it is entirely ed up, and then curb stomp her. Just the way it is, even if the person deserves most of it.

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    A proportional response to a threat - in self defense - is legit. If someone comes at you with a knife, the law is not going to protect you if you blow this person's head off with a bazooka. But, that's a pretty academic distinction.

    As for the video, the kid got what he deserved. He shouldn't have been suspended, and if I were the kids parent's, I'd raise over his suspension.

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    Because it's part of law. You're supposed to keep context in check. If a kid comes up and slaps you repeatedly on the face, you can't just whip out a crow bar and smash his face in. Look it up.


    It sort of taints the story that the bigger kid got 4 days, but he still ed him up nonetheless beyond what was necessary to subdue that tiny little . I agree with SFIE, no sympathy for that , but there are laws that state you cannot just retaliate in any type of defense that you want.

    If a woman starts hitting me, it would be unjust under the law for me to body slam her into the ground and bash her face in until it is entirely ed up, and then curb stomp her. Just the way it is, even if the person deserves most of it.
    How can you classify proportional vs. a not proportional act of self defense? Are you saying that a 13 year old kid has to 1) be aware he's much bigger than a bully and 2) pull punches? And if so, what would have been a more appropriate act of self defense? Punching the kid back in the face?

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    What a crock of . That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. You're probably one of those tree hugging kum ba ya pussies aren't you? I'm sure he didn't premeditate that you dumbass. It happened in the heat of the fight where there is no thinking, there is no rationalizing, there's just make sure you mess up the other guy more than he messes you up....simple.
    It's not his original idea, so if you think it's a crock of , take it up with the law.


    The reason why I personally believe the big kid's punishment is precisely because he's a young ass kid, who has no idea of these laws, and it wasn't extremely excessive. It's not like he ed him up while he was down. I guess the school is just very intolerant of fighting, as stated. He used his brute force, ed the kid's day up, and then walked right away like a true OG.

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    A proportional response to a threat - in self defense - is legit. If someone comes at you with a knife, the law is not going to protect you if you blow this person's head off with a bazooka. But, that's a pretty academic distinction.
    That's a poor example. If someone comes at me with a knife I can shoot them with a bazooka, they have a weapon that can kill me and I respond with one that can kill them back. Why I have a bazooka is a whole other question entirely.

    Now if someone comes at me with a teddy bear, and I stab them in the eyeball, well that's a better example.

    I don't see anything that kid did in his defense, that was out of line with what was going on. It's just as simple as him being stronger and able to pick him up and put him down hard. Now if he had pulled out a gun and shot him that would make your point.

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    I also think that when you mess with a kid that size, you're clearly taking a gamble that he could potentially hurt you pretty badly if he wanted to.

    I mean if all we had were these two kids, and you asked people who do you think would hit harder, or be stronger, you'd pick the bigger kid. It's not anybody's fault but his that he decided to bully a much bigger kid, hoping that he was too passive to do anything, but that was a bad gamble on his part, and it didn't pay off.
    Exactly. It's a mental thing, a human fault. Anyone who s with someone twice their size is usually a dumbass...and obviously he paid the consequences. The big dude was unharmed, the other felt extreme pain and probably cry for the rest of the day and his parents probably called him a ing dumbass...hopefully.

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    How can you classify proportional vs. a not proportional act of self defense? Are you saying that a 13 year old kid has to 1) be aware he's much bigger than a bully and 2) pull punches? And if so, what would have been a more appropriate act of self defense? Punching the kid back in the face?
    Even in that regard I think the bigger kids punch would have potentially hurt the smaller kid considerably worse. He shouldn't be required to pull his punches, some idiot decides to with him he gets what he deserves. If you don't want to get your ass kicked by a bigger kid, don't with one in the first place.

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