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    no way this beats Chernobyl

    Chernobyl was on earth

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    no way this beats Chernobyl

    Chernobyl was on earth
    I said "possible."

    I have an open mind. Why don't you?

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    I said "possible."

    I have an open mind. Why don't you?
    It's basically impossible for this to become worse than Chernobyl. The difference being that in Chernobyl, the core actually exploded and there was no shielding. Anything that got out of the main plant was flung into the air as high and long as possible.

    The core isn't going to explode here, it's just melting down. Even the worst case scenario here still probably doesn't put it within arm's reach of how bad Chernobyl was.

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    I guess if they fail to release the pressure it would go off like a pressure cooker and maybe make the other reactors to go off in domino effect. I guess everythign is possible at this point.

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    I guess if they fail to release the pressure it would go off like a pressure cooker and maybe make the other reactors to go off in domino effect. I guess everythign is possible at this point.
    If memory serves, in this type of setup each reactor is an independent en y. No dominoes to worry about.

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    I said "possible."

    I have an open mind. Why don't you?
    The reality is that you can't compare this to Chernobyl, for many reasons.

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    It's basically impossible for this to become worse than Chernobyl. The difference being that in Chernobyl, the core actually exploded and there was no shielding. Anything that got out of the main plant was flung into the air as high and long as possible.

    The core isn't going to explode here, it's just melting down. Even the worst case scenario here still probably doesn't put it within arm's reach of how bad Chernobyl was.
    Actually, the problem at Chernobyl wasn't as much the explosion but rather the carbon blocks burning so hot afterwards and carrying the radioactive heavy metals away in the heat plume/smoke.

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    It's basically impossible for this to become worse than Chernobyl. The difference being that in Chernobyl, the core actually exploded and there was no shielding. Anything that got out of the main plant was flung into the air as high and long as possible.

    The core isn't going to explode here, it's just melting down. Even the worst case scenario here still probably doesn't put it within arm's reach of how bad Chernobyl was.
    I agree for the most part. As much as I believe japan is being honest about this, we really don't know. Improbably, but possible that something unforeseen can happen. I simply disagree with "impossible."

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    Actually, the problem at Chernobyl wasn't as much the explosion but rather the carbon blocks burning so hot afterwards and carrying the radioactive heavy metals away in the heat plume/smoke.
    Yeah the graphite fire complicated matters quite a bit. Fortunately, this reactor isn't built the same way.

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    Winds are changing...


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    WC might have been right. Another fire but this time near spent fuel rods. Those are in no containment

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/w...ow/7715287.cms

    Fuel-cooling pools add to Japan worries

    Even as workers race to prevent the radioactive cores of the damaged nuclear reactors in Japan from melting down, concerns are growing that nearby pools holding spent fuel rods could pose an even greater danger.

    The pools, which sit on the top level of the reactor buildings and keep spent fuel submerged in water, have lost their cooling systems and the Japanese have been unable to take emergency steps because of the multiplying crises.

    By late Tuesday, the water meant to cool spent fuel rods in the No 4 reactor was boiling, Japan's nuclear watchdog said. If the water evaporates and the rods run dry, they could overheat and catch fire, potentially spreading radioactive materials in dangerous clouds.

    Shigekatsu Oomukai, a spokesperson for the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency, said the substantial capacity of the pool meant that the water in the pool was unlikely to evaporate soon. But he said workers were having difficulty reaching the pool to cool it, because of the high temperature of the water.

    Temperatures appeared to be rising in the spent fuel pools at two other reactors at the plant, No 5 and No 6, said Yukio Edano, the chief cabinet secretary. The pools are a worry at the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi plant because at least two of the reactors have lost their roofs in explosions, exposing the spent fuel pools to the atmosphere. By contrast, reactors have strong containment vessels that stand a better chance of bottling up radiation from a meltdown of the fuel in the reactor core.

    If any of the spent fuel rods in the pools do indeed catch fire, nuclear experts say, the high heat would loft the radiation in clouds that would spread the radioactivity. "It's worse than a meltdown," said David A Lochbaum, a nuclear engineer at the Union of Concerned Scientists. "The reactor is inside thick walls, and the spent fuel of Reactors 1 and 3 is out in the open."

    A spokesman for the company that runs the stricken reactors said that the spent fuel at the Fukushima Daiichi and Daini plants had been left uncooled since after the quake. The company, TEPCO, has not been able to cool the spent fuel pools because power has been knocked out. "There may be heating up," the spokesman said.

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    Just keeps getting worse.

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    Winds are changing...

    This expert notes that Hawaii is in the path of that. I don't think the US particularly cares for that scenario either.

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    Anderson Cooper just reported all workers of the plant have suspended emergency operations because of high level of radiation.......................

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    Anderson Cooper just reported all workers of the plant have suspended emergency operations because of high level of radiation.......................
    Epically bad if true.....

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    Epically bad if true.....
    some japanese official made that statement

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    yukio edano; Japanese chief cabinet secretary

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    suspended AND evacuated.

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    some japanese official made that statement
    Their prime minister made the statement I believe. Looks like they said it and left. I hope it was only something just lost in translation though.

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    Their prime minister made the statement I believe. Looks like they said it and left. I hope it was only something just lost in translation though.
    suspended AND evacuated.
    Man o man.....gotta tune in now.

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    now msnbc is the only thing live. they say "temporarily" suspend.

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    and even saying you're "temporarily" suspending high levels of radiation from escaping is a little unsettling.

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    Get real.

    That place is cooked.

    They are gonna burn dry and melt down and we are about to find out if a GE mark I containment vessel works as advertised.

    even if the containment vessels work on the live reactors the spent fuel rods will start burning tomorrow and sending bad bad downwind.

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    Any who, I heard something on Headline News, not Foe News, this morning and it was stated that GE designed all the reactors at that plant. I haven't verified the info but it kinda stood out to me. Hmm. I'm interested to see what comes of that, if it's true. Very interested.

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    amount of radiation emitted from only reactor 4

    "the amount in a year that causes cancer.......the plant was putting out 4 times that in a single hour"

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