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And what does this have to do with the US at all?
Fair enough Yoni. It certainly looks like they are celebrating the deaths of these people. Pretty creepy.
Thanks for backing your stuff up.
And what does this have to do with the US at all?
Yonivore, I noticed that you dodged both of my questions, and stuck to your talking points, in a valiant attempt to rack up your daily quota of baggery.
I asked:
Will you be similarly outraged if settlers take the law into their hands and slaughter a Palestinian or two?
"I would be surprised" is not an answer. I don't think the settlers would be quite so bloodthristy as to slaughter a family like this though.
I can only assume by your lack of an answer, the answer is "no", you would not be outraged if settlers slaughtered an innocent Palestinian or two.
Congratulations on stooping to the level of the people you hate, and firmly crossing the line into what most would consider evil. At least you are honest about it, I guess.
I also asked:
Why did you leave out the part where responsible Palestinians denounced the violence?
Your response, also evasive, "they elected terrorists", i.e. Hamas, missed the point that the official speaking was not a member of Hamas.
Bascially, what you dont' want to admit, because you want to show that "all Palestians are bad people, so we shouldnt' care what Israel does to them" is that there actually were expressions of outrage.
You have no proof that the gentleman expressing outrage is lying, so other than implying he were lying, so that would suit your theory.
It suits your theory, therefore it is true.
Since Lngrr pointed out that your "professional" translator not only appears to be really bad at translating, he seems to be actively misleading.
Not a problem for lying sacks of like yourself, I'm sure.
So you fall back to the next line of defense for your stupid theory, a badly translated machine bit. I will get to that at some point, but did note that the translation left out the ages of those who died, a pretty important factor. I would wonder if the comments would have run similarly if the ages had been given. (to be clear, I think the ages seem to have been deliberately left out in an attempt to whitewash the truth)
That bit probably escaped your dumb ass, but then, you aren't looking for information that doesn't support your rather xenophobic double-standard.
What you dont' want to admit, is that a pretty solid majority of Palestinians would be suitably shocked at the stabbing of a 3 month old baby. As much as Hamas might be the bloodthristy terrorists you claim they all are, I highly doubt they could maintain a facade of moral legitimacy if that were really condoned.
I have no doubt that there are some who have few moral qualms about it, and whose hatred leads them to cheer this.
What I do doubt, and what you completely fail to prove here, is that "all Palestinians are cheering and think this attack was a great thing".
You did note that some of those comments seemed to condemn the attacks as well, yes?
Or did ignore that, like you do anything that might burst your preconcieved notions?
I have a rather strong su ion that someone will turn in the perpetrators at some point. I would guess they will be turned in by someone they confided in that is suitably shocked at the rather heinous nature of the slayings.
That part will probably not play to Yonivores narrative, so it will be ignored as well.
this is what i dont get about israelis who come and just bulldozed ppl out of their land if they have land le over it, i thought israel is a democratic society, why dont they just buy the land at market value or compensate? fkn the way they operate is no different to the s in .......
Hanging over the bed of 11-year old Yoav Fogel:
Translation:
ing barbarians."May it be Your will, L-rd G-d and G-d of our forefathers, that I love every one of Israel as myself, and to graciously perform the positive commandment of loving your neighbor as yourself.
And may it also be Your will, Lord G-d and G-d of my forefathers, that you cause the hearts of my friends and neighbors to love me fervently, and that I be accepted and desirable to everyone, and that I be loving and pleasant, and that I be gracious and merciful in the eyes of all who see me. As water reflects face to face, so the heart of man to man. And all for the sake of Heaven, to do Your will, Amen."
What does this have to do with the US?
Compare and contrast...
IDF, settlers save Arab baby
I must have missed where the Palestinians have turned over the murderers to Israel authorities. Surely that's happened by now.After massacre, settlers help bring new life into world: IDF forces and local paramedics helped save the life of a Palestinian woman and her newly born infant Wednesday, at the settlement where Fogel relatives are sitting Shiva for the five Israelis brutally murdered last week.
Just as IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz arrived in Neve Tzuf to offer his condolences, a Palestinian cab raced towards the community's entrance. In it, soldiers and paramedics discovered a Palestinian woman in her 20s in advanced stages of labor and facing a life-threatening situation: The umbilical cord was wrapped around the young baby girl's neck, endangering both her and her mother.
The quick action of settler paramedics and IDF troops deployed in the area saved the mother's and baby's life, prompting great excitement and emotions at the site where residents are still mourning the brutal death of five local family members....
Not that I'm sticking up for Yoni here.........but what does it matter if it has to do with the US or not?
I'm just trying to see the benefit for the US from its kowtowing to every wish of the Israeli government. yoni wanted to preserve the brutal dictatorship in Egypt for the interests of the US, so what does our support for Israel do for us?
Fair enough, but I don't think this thread is the one to ask that question.
Having said that, I'm making sure to quote you so that Yoni will read that as I'm pretty sure he's boutonsesque in his mode of putting others on ignore and I think it's a valid question regardless of the thread.
Assuming I'm not ignored by him by now.
Not yet.
I'm working on it Chump.
Considering we've strong-armed Israel into engaging in a meaningless "road map to peace" for several administrations now; and, considering we've legitimized the terrorist regime of the Palestine Authority and made nice with one of the most brutal terrorists (Yassir Arafat) ever, up until the day he died; I'm not sure ChumpDumper's assertion we've kowtowed "to every wish of the Israeli government," is accurate.
But, you're right, this isn't the thread for that discussion and, unless, you're going to continued reposting Chump's drivel -- and, perhaps even if you do -- don't expect me to respond. I'm not interested in engaging him, or his proxy, in a debate.
What have we refused Israel?
Ever?
And why does yoni like Israel more than the US?
Translation:
"I got nuthin"
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Breaking News: Some Palestinians are evil, and Some Israelis are heroic.
I fixed it for you...
right. yoni proved it by way of two news articles illustrating the stark differences between the two cultures (well, one culture and one pack of wild savages) that always hold true under every imaginable cir stance.
He shouldn't need to back it up. Part of what has me disgusted about the Democratic party is their love for Palestinian people and blindly defending the acts of terror they commit against Israel.Fair enough Yoni. It certainly looks like they are celebrating the deaths of these people. Pretty creepy.
Thanks for backing your stuff up.
that's all he needs to be convinced.. don't forget the always trusting blog...!
You won't find many people here on the left that support anything the Palestinians do when it comes to killing innocent people.. what you will find is that many of the left on this board don't blindly assume that Isreal is as pure as the white driven snow either.. Yoni thinks that Isreal can do no wrong and that we should blindly support them no matter what.. is that the proper thing to do?
he's on ignore cuz he takes you to the shed.
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