Bonner apologists, please explain

[ChumpDumper]

Apparently, Bonner will lose every game for you.

[TD 21]

Are you really this stupid? Really? Bonner is going to pull a Laker big man away from the basket?

The thing with players like Bonner is, anyone can guard him. You could run Nate Robinson at him on the three point line and he'll try to put it on the floor. You actually think Andrew Bynum or Gasol is going to be guarding him on the three point line? You're a ing idiot.

Let me explain to you how this works, re . The guy is basically a 50% three-point shooter. 40% is excellent. 50% is insane. They have no choice but to respect his shot and if they don't, then he'll throw in 2-3 and make them respect his shot. Once they do that, it opens the middle up more for Parker and Ginobili.

Like I said, if he folds under the pressure of the playoffs again and can't do that, then bench him. But to not give him another chance because of a limited sample size is foolish.

You're a ing idiot and you don't know about the game.

[ElNono]

If you say so...

[NRHector]

Bonner is out there to hit the 3's but most of the times he chokes and I think Novak might have a better playoffs games than Bonner

[NRHector]

Let me explain to you how this works, re . The guy is basically a 50% three-point shooter. 40% is excellent. 50% is insane. They have no choice but to respect his shot and if they don't, then he'll throw in 2-3 and make them respect his shot. Once they do that, it opens the middle up more for Parker and Ginobili.

Like I said, if he folds under the pressure of the playoffs again and can't do that, then pull him. But to not give him another chance because of a limited sample size is foolish.

You're a ing idiot and you don't know about the game.

how many more playoffs game does he needs?

[ElNono]

He might be a 50% 'insane' 3 point shooter, but he barely makes 3 shots a game, as his scoring averages indicate... It's anybody's guess if that percentage would translate if he took three or four times as many shots.

[itzsoweezee]

They have no choice but to respect his shot and if they don't, then he'll throw in 2-3 and make them respect his shot.

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This fool actually thinks Bynum or Gasol's going to be guarding Bonner on the three point line because he's going to make them respect his shot.

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[ElNono]

Easy scores for Ginobili/Parker/Duncan or Bonner... Really? Is this our pick your poison?

[TD 21]

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This fool actually thinks Bynum or Gasol's going to be guarding Bonner on the three point line because he's going to make them respect his shot.

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It's incredible how stupid you are. Maybe the least knowledgeable poster on the entire board.

ElNono, that's what pick-and-roll defense is, when it comes to stopping a team with the options this team possesses and the challenges those options present. They can't cover the role man, stop the penetration and account for the three-point shooters simultaneously. They have to give up something. That's why it's called read-and-react. You read how the defense is playing you and make the proper decision.

[NRHector]

even when he tries to make a layup or a hook shot he still chokes

[Sean Cagney]

even when he tries to make a layup or a hook shot he still chokes

HE SUCKS PERIOD! I don't get it here, why resign him so long and why is he still here after the last few playoffs? He is utter . I am not a fan at all.

Last year I rejoiced and said yes Bogans and him gone! BUT NOOOOOOOOOO ONLY ONE WAS OUT! POP had to get his red head baby back for another few runs IDIOT.

[NRHector]

HE SUCKS PERIOD! I don't get it here, why resign him so long and why is he still here after the last few playoffs? He is utter . I am not a fan at all.

Last year I rejoiced and said yes Bogans and him gone! BUT NOOOOOOOOOO ONLY ONE WAS OUT! POP had to get his red head baby back for another few runs IDIOT.

the only explanation that I have is a reverse affirmative action, need a specific quota of white players in the team

[ElNono]

ElNono, that's what pick-and-roll defense is, when it comes to stopping a team with the options this team possesses and the challenges those options present. They can't cover the role man, stop the penetration and account for the three-point shooters simultaneously. They have to give up something. That's why it's called read-and-react. You read how the defense is playing you and make the proper decision.

oh, I know exactly what you mean. My problem is that time and again good teams will not respect him, and for plenty of reasons. Besides the one that has been repeated forever of him turning into a mediocre shooter under pressure, he's a great mismatch to exploit on the other end, he's an abysmally poor rebounder for his size, he refuses to take contested shots even over much smaller opponents, he's turnover prone when he puts the ball on the floor, he's a very low volume shooter... If you're an opposing coach, and you have a moderately good defensive discipline to dictate what the matchups should be, there's a lot to like about picking Bonner to be your poison, and not just because the other option is TD/Manu/TP going off.

[Leonard Curse]

Not only that, smart coaches like Phil Jackson will dare you to beat his team with Bonner taking the majority of the shots instead of allowing Tony and Manu to cruise through the paint. How many games of a 7 game series you think Bonner is going to win for you? He's not even a double digit scorer as it is...

this hopefully embarrasses pop so much that he plays chess and puts tiago in off the bench. i think any other coach pop will feel hes smarter naturally and hey they just played awesome against us , its not bonners fault

[Leonard Curse]

Let me explain to you how this works, re . The guy is basically a 50% three-point shooter. 40% is excellent. 50% is insane. They have no choice but to respect his shot and if they don't, then he'll throw in 2-3 and make them respect his shot. Once they do that, it opens the middle up more for Parker and Ginobili.

Like I said, if he folds under the pressure of the playoffs again and can't do that, then bench him. But to not give him another chance because of a limited sample size is foolish.

You're a ing idiot and you don't know about the game.

are you sure about those % in the playoffs?

[Cessation]

I think op is using common sense, not sure about some of the other posters.

[Splits]

Is it possible for the best 3pt shooter in the game to get this much hate from his team's own "fans"? Quite incredible this board is. The team is 55-13 and one of their key role players is in a slump and the entire board takes a on him. I hope he s back on all of you assholes

[TD 21]

oh, I know exactly what you mean. My problem is that time and again good teams will not respect him, and for plenty of reasons. Besides the one that has been repeated forever of him turning into a mediocre shooter under pressure, he's a great mismatch to exploit on the other end, he's an abysmally poor rebounder for his size, he refuses to take contested shots even over much smaller opponents, he's turnover prone when he puts the ball on the floor, he's a very low volume shooter... If you're an opposing coach, and you have a moderately good defensive discipline to dictate what the matchups should be, there's a lot to like about picking Bonner to be your poison, and not just because the other option is TD/Manu/TP going off.

Splitter should be the third big. I'd give Bonner the first chance to be the fourth big because he's theoretically a better fit next to Splitter, he's a more sound defender than Blair, he's more experienced and he's less likely to do something foolish.

If good teams don't respect him (and by respect, I mean his shot; not his overall game) and he makes them pay, they'll have no choice but to respect him or risk him throwing in myriad threes. It isn't as if Blair isn't a great mismatch to exploit on the other end as well.

I'm not saying go with Bonner at all costs. If he struggles, then go to Blair by game 3-4. Realistically, it's going to take all five bigs to win a championship. But this is all moot anyway, because we know Bonner is going to be the third big, Blair the fourth and the only chance that Splitter will have to play other than when the result is decided (barring injury), is if/when the Spurs play the Lakers.

[Leonard Curse]

another thing is if timmy was o5' timmy shoot even 07' tim then yeah bonner would work and get the out of timmys way but with a team like L.A theyll put lamar odom on bonner who is a million times more athletic and can work him harder on the opposite end.

thats why defense first always wins because instead of trying to score you stop the offense and usually offense will flow. did you see what tiago did to odom in the olympics????(look it up) he made him look like a bad bench player.

bonner also gives up all the points he made from 3. 90% of the scoring goes right through him because he ends up switching and not helping the defense. he sucks and im sorry but i wish his bones would crumble already. we need defense we have enough damn offense

[NRHector]

Is it possible for the best 3pt shooter in the game to get this much hate from his team's own "fans"? Quite incredible this board is. The team is 55-13 and one of their key role players is in a slump and the entire board takes a on him. I hope he s back on all of you assholes

it seems he's in a slump every season specially in the playoffs

[Sean Cagney]

Originally Posted by Splitman4evah

Is it possible for the best 3pt shooter in the game to get this much hate from his team's own "fans"? Quite incredible this board is. The team is 55-13 and one of their key role players is in a slump and the entire board takes a on him. I hope he s back on all of you assholes

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Don't worry he has started this already in late March to May etc.! He will not do good, he never does. LOL at people after all these years still at it, get real dude is not HORRY, he just does not have it when it counts, prove me wrong? YOU CAN NOT! If he does I will smile and hats off, but until then he is BONNER!

[Splits]

it seems he's in a slump every season specially in the playoffs

Yeah, he's in a slump every season when he is leading the lead in 3pt accuracy this year. I can't wait till he s on you in the playoffs.

On the other hand, Splitter is a tried and true commodity that is only shackled because Pop gives Bonner anal. Got it.

[Splits]

Don't worry he has started this already in late March to May etc.! He will not do good, he never does. LOL at people after all these years still at it, get real dude is not HORRY, he just does not have it when it counts, prove me wrong? YOU CAN NOT! If he does I will smile and hats off, but until then he is BONNER!

I am in disbelief that the front office still allows Pop to coach his team when we have such brilliant prognosticators and fortune tellers on SpursTalk

[Leonard Curse]

and it took along time for spurs fans to be this disgusted with bonner, even this year everyone tried to be optimistic, however while we do have a great record we can have a better record and bonner has nothing to do with our record.!!

did you notice our win streak even flinch when he got hurt??? and thats b/c he was on fire at the time. like i said his offense means nothing since hes giving up just as many points. and were freaking out because if we lose this year its on bonner ...know why???
because hes no longer playing 5-10 minutes hes playing 20+ minutes as our defensive center .its a joke . i bet you manu/tim/tony agree with all of us put yourself in their shoes

[Sean Cagney]

I am in disbelief that the front office still allows Pop to coach his team when we have such brilliant prognosticators and fortune tellers on SpursTalk

Get real man, he has not proven it in three years in the playoffs and you on us? We are just seeing reality bro. LOL at on heads in the playoffs, since when has he done that Infact his slump has started right on que lately it seems! RIGHT ON IT! He has not proven us wrong, so why even start this here? What other team would play him so many mins? Just the Spurs it seems, get real that dude has no nuts at all, he is hot early but not Horry late, it's a reality and has been, argue that there.

and it took along time for spurs fans to be this disgusted with bonner, even this year everyone tried to be optimistic, however while we do have a great record we can have a better record and bonner has nothing to do with our record.!!

did you notice our win streak even flinch when he got hurt??? and thats b/c he was on fire at the time. like i said his offense means nothing since hes giving up just as many points. and were freaking out because if we lose this year its on bonner ...know why???
because hes no longer playing 5-10 minutes hes playing 20+ minutes as our defensive center .its a joke . i bet you manu/tim/tony agree with all of us put yourself in their shoes

His fans are clowns man, but he leads the league in FG%, but he fades late and gives up what ? ALOT to other players etc. He can't board either, yet idiots will argue this every year, I swear they have to be his family or him on here? Yeah shoots a high % most of the year, but fades late and in the playoffs his numbers don't lie, he is shyt. I swear these idiots make me sick.