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    They have a little more leverage with Apple for negotiations, that is probably what this is about.
    It's also about the wireless spectrum. They doubled their alloted "space" while reducing their need (at the moment) buy streamlining both networks. It was a deal towards the future as they now have more to play with.

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    You're forgetting one thing. While AT&T exists in name, it's actually the old SBC as SBC bought out AT&T. The former CEO Edward Whitacre stated that he was going to make SBC so big and powerful he'd buy AT&T. Then he went out and did it.
    True. AT&T is so badass other people want to expand their name for them..

    But really, pretty impressive.


    To manny:


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    Manny being the typical that he is

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    Let's see what that smarmy little T-Mobile has to say about this.

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    and since Cricket and Pocket merged, that's another lost bit of compe on.

    I guess the good thing is that I'll now pay my mobile and cable at the same time.

    yay

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    Where is tmobile that ATT wasn't already? Its not a significant improvement and you're assuming they're going to operate all those towers after the merger which isn't going to happen. They're not going to keep every Tmobile tower. I'm sure there has been some expansion of the network but I really doubt its significant by any means.
    Manny, they might keep the towers. With all the data pigs out there streaming videos, etc. they may need the capacity to keep up.

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    True. AT&T is so badass other people want to expand their name for them..

    But really, pretty impressive.


    To manny:

    That is a fairly significant increase by looking at the map, but I call foul on the map. Sprints coverage is limited to near the interstates in most places but you get coverage everywhere and I don't pay roaming so I have to go extremely desolated places to get out of the coverage area. Pretty sure its the same for ATT.

    That being said, it does look like their home network is getting bigger and being on your home network is better a lot of the time for data so they do see an improvement there that was larger than I thought it was going to be.

    Still ty for consumers in the end. Tmobile customers aren't going to be happy to see their rates go up.

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    You're forgetting one thing. While AT&T exists in name, it's actually the old SBC as SBC bought out AT&T. The former CEO Edward Whitacre stated that he was going to make SBC so big and powerful he'd buy AT&T. Then he went out and did it.

    Anyway, in reference to the Cricket remark, I know a lot more people who have Cricket these days than ever before, so I'd say their doing something right. They also have the broadband cards for internet.

    And Cricket is bringing affordable Android phones to the market. They may not be the fastest, have the nicest screens or can compete with the Galaxy S and Evo's of the world, but they do everything those phones can do and at a cheaper price (both phone and service plan), so people are finding it to be a cheaper alternative while still getting a smartphone.

    And most people don't realize it's actually a nationwide network covered in all the major markets. so you can travel.
    You're missing the point that ATT was broken up and yet the initial company is almost all the way back together again. ATT might as well be trying to kill a teenage John Conner at this point.

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    The total deal is 39 billion USD. This will be great for consumers tbqh

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    Any removal of choice and concentration of economic power is always bad for consumers. That's exactly why corporations do it, to make more money from consumers.

    And of course 10s of 1000s of jobs will be lost along with $100Ms of increases in profits for investors and mgmt.

    Compe ion? GMAFB cell phone pricing is a de facto price-fixing cartel.

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    You're a complete ing moron. Of course rates have dropped, but THAT DOESN'T"T MEAN THEY WOULDN'T"T HAVE DROPPED MORE WITH MORE COMPE ION. They've dropped because the advance of technology and not because of mergers. This is one of the dumbest arguments I've ever read.

    I'm actually glad that you brought up stores in San Antonio, because when Albertsons pulled out HEB got way worse. Why? Less compe ion!

    Its laughable that you think I'm wrong about one of the most fundamental principles of economics.



    LOL @ a lot of speed. ATT customers gained worse customer service and the exact same speed they were going to get before.
    I disagree. HEB did not get much worse since it still has to compete with wal-mart. That is such a stupid comment.

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I disagree. HEB did not get much worse since it still has to compete with wal-mart. That is such a stupid comment.
    Oh really? Walmart wasn't selling groceries in San Antonio for a long ass time after Albertson's left and HEB did get worse and prices went up.

    What the is it with you dumb assholes that you come crawling out of the woodwork with your idiocy? You're like re ed roaches all scurrying around.

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    It's bad for tmobile customers who have to pay more once their current contract ends. The Corp mergers screw customers every time.

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    I've got Sprint. How will this effect me?

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    I still love my HEB and yeah, prices went up but they did everywhere. I too didn't see a major downhill slide when Albertson's shut down.

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    f that we still have Handy Andy and La fiesta.

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    f that we still have Handy Andy and La fiesta.

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    I remember going to Handy Andy.

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    The best thing about HEB was the bulk es at Central Market. The rest of it can sod off. HEB has some of the most discriminatory management I've ever seen - the stores in wealthier areas are nice, but anyone who's ever been to the stores at Fredericksberg & I-10 or the one at Olmos Park knows just how ty they can get when the population they serve isn't privileged enough to have a voice. I have seen more rotten produce at HEBs than in every other store I've ever been in combined (the economically disadvantaged apparently don't need access to fresh food after all). It got to the point that I had to go to two different stores every time I needed groceries when I was living in Monte Vista - Olmos Park for pre-packaged foods and cleaning supplies, and then over to Central Market to find produce that wasn't swimming in fruit flies.

    But back to the merger, any time you have fewer choices the consumer will suffer. Case in point: the only internet provider to which I have access at home is Comcast, and the service we get for the price we pay is beyond ridiculous. We pay as much per month for an average speed of 3 Mbps as people in other areas do for 12.

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    The best thing about HEB was the bulk es at Central Market. The rest of it can sod off. HEB has some of the most discriminatory management I've ever seen - the stores in wealthier areas are nice, but anyone who's ever been to the stores at Fredericksberg & I-10 or the one at Olmos Park knows just how ty they can get when the population they serve isn't privileged enough to have a voice. I have seen more rotten produce at HEBs than in every other store I've ever been in combined (the economically disadvantaged apparently don't need access to fresh food after all). It got to the point that I had to go to two different stores every time I needed groceries when I was living in Monte Vista - Olmos Park for pre-packaged foods and cleaning supplies, and then over to Central Market to find produce that wasn't swimming in fruit flies.

    But back to the merger, any time you have fewer choices the consumer will suffer. Case in point: the only internet provider to which I have access at home is Comcast, and the service we get for the price we pay is beyond ridiculous. We pay as much per month for an average speed of 3 Mbps as people in other areas do for 12.
    HEB absolutely puts products on the shelf that they believe caters to the shoppers that live in the area. I know because it was part of the orientation program used for new hires.

    You might not find as many Hill Country Fare brands (different from HEB label brands) out at the HEB near the Dominion, while at the HEB on South New Braunfels, you might be hard pressed to find somethig like a jar of pine nuts.

    HEB believed that the reason Albertsons went down and out is because they used the same store model for each and every neighborhood.

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    It's bad for tmobile customers who have to pay more once their current contract ends. The Corp mergers screw customers every time.

    don't remind me

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    HEB absolutely puts products on the shelf that they believe caters to the shoppers that live in the area. I know because it was part of the orientation program used for new hires.

    You might not find as many Hill Country Fare brands (different from HEB label brands) out at the HEB near the Dominion, while at the HEB on South New Braunfels, you might be hard pressed to find somethig like a jar of pine nuts.

    HEB believed that the reason Albertsons went down and out is because they used the same store model for each and every neighborhood.
    What you mean is that you might find fresh produce on Dezavala but on Zarzamora you're going to find flies all around the fruit.

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    Per CNN

    The U.S. Department of Justice filed an an rust lawsuit on Wednesday seeking to block AT&T's $39 billion merger with T-Mobile.

    The merged companies would be the largest wireless company in the United States, combining AT&T's 95 million customers with T-Mobile's 34 million users. Along with Verizon Wireless, the merged companies would combine for more than two-thirds of the wireless market and account for 78% of the wireless industry's revenue.

    "The combination of AT&T and T-Mobile would result in tens of millions of consumers all across the United States facing higher prices, fewer choices and lower quality products for mobile wireless services," the Justice Department said in its announcement.
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    Per CNN

    The U.S. Department of Justice filed an an rust lawsuit on Wednesday seeking to block AT&T's $39 billion merger with T-Mobile.

    The merged companies would be the largest wireless company in the United States, combining AT&T's 95 million customers with T-Mobile's 34 million users. Along with Verizon Wireless, the merged companies would combine for more than two-thirds of the wireless market and account for 78% of the wireless industry's revenue.

    "The combination of AT&T and T-Mobile would result in tens of millions of consumers all across the United States facing higher prices, fewer choices and lower quality products for mobile wireless services," the Justice Department said in its announcement.
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    That's awful nice of them, but I would rather they levy the full penalty to the banks.

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