Tim Duncan leads the NBA in...

[BillMc]

Blocks per foul and it isn't even close.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...blockFoulRatio

That's TD smart and efficient. He should make an All-Defensive Team.

[Rummpd]

He is also near the top in blocks per minute. Not surprising for the man who may have had the greatest block season in history: http://www.48minutesof .com/the-v...duncans-blocks
Although intuitive in its own right, this information paints a counterintuitive portrait of some of the NBA’s better regarded frontcourt defenders. For instance, “Looking at it this way, Brendon Haywood, who many people think is a very good defender (me included) actually is a less valuable shot blocker than Jermaine O’Neal.”

Huizinga’s paper is led “The Value of a Blocked Shot in the NBA: From Dwight Howard to Tim Duncan,” and not without good reason, explains Pruiti:

…As [Huizinga] explained, through a series of charts, Tim Duncan has had the best season in history when it came down to value/block with 1.12, meaning he saved 1.12 points with every block and Dwight Howard ended up with the worst season in terms of value/block with with .53 (both came during the 2008 season).

Long ago I noticed that most of Tim Duncan’s blocks came right at the rim, which is why I am so excited to read about Huizinga’s paper. Rather than stoke the debate between traditional scouting and advanced statisticians, it further shows how the conclusions of one can work symbiotically with the visual evidence of the other.



Read more: http://www.48minutesof .com/the-v...#ixzz1HFMvcYle


Duncan today, when motivated and rested, is still a plausiby a more effective overall shot blocker than Howard and Chandler - perhaps Ibaka with his super human hops or Bynum with his reach and size can make a case to be more effective but in the playoffs when it counts give me Duncan anytime to at least try to make the right and efficient play.

[Obstructed_View]

Duncan's first team all-defense this year for sure, though he likely won't make any of the teams. Looking at his minutes, his rebounding and block rate, and his team's record, there's a very easy case to make that he's far better than Howard on the defensive end.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the award givers dont give a about advance stats

[DeadlyDynasty]

This is what makes ST the best B-Ball board on the web. You just can't find unexpected, unintentional humor like this anywhere else.

Bravo, fellas

[Obstructed_View]

The award givers don't really watch basketball, that's pretty clear.

[Obstructed_View]

Math is hard. BLACK MAMABA.

Yes, I misspelled it on purpose.

[Nathan Explosion]

Duncan's first team all-defense this year for sure, though he likely won't make any of the teams. Looking at his minutes, his rebounding and block rate, and his team's record, there's a very easy case to make that he's far better than Howard on the defensive end.

I heard a former player (might be Mark Jackson) say that we've never seen a player do the things on defense that Dwight does. I said to the tv, in the last 20 years look at DRob and Hakeem before spouting off at the mouth. , you played against both of them.

And that's not even including Wilt and Russell.

Dwight is a good defensive presence in the paint, but I think he's a bit overrated by the media in terms of his defense.

[Hoops Czar]

Where does he rank in Blocks per attempt? Seems to me its a layup drill with or without him in the game

[BillMc]

He is also near the top in blocks per minute. Not surprising for the man who may have had the greatest block season in history: http://www.48minutesof .com/the-v...duncans-blocks
Although intuitive in its own right, this information paints a counterintuitive portrait of some of the NBA’s better regarded frontcourt defenders. For instance, “Looking at it this way, Brendon Haywood, who many people think is a very good defender (me included) actually is a less valuable shot blocker than Jermaine O’Neal.”

Huizinga’s paper is led “The Value of a Blocked Shot in the NBA: From Dwight Howard to Tim Duncan,” and not without good reason, explains Pruiti:

…As [Huizinga] explained, through a series of charts, Tim Duncan has had the best season in history when it came down to value/block with 1.12, meaning he saved 1.12 points with every block and Dwight Howard ended up with the worst season in terms of value/block with with .53 (both came during the 2008 season).

Long ago I noticed that most of Tim Duncan’s blocks came right at the rim, which is why I am so excited to read about Huizinga’s paper. Rather than stoke the debate between traditional scouting and advanced statisticians, it further shows how the conclusions of one can work symbiotically with the visual evidence of the other.



Read more: http://www.48minutesof .com/the-v...#ixzz1HFMvcYle


Duncan today, when motivated and rested, is still a plausiby a more effective overall shot blocker than Howard and Chandler - perhaps Ibaka with his super human hops or Bynum with his reach and size can make a case to be more effective but in the playoffs when it counts give me Duncan anytime to at least try to make the right and efficient play.

Very nice insightful post. Thanks for the info and the links.

[Strange Botwin]

hit points.

[Cry Havoc]

“Looking at it this way, Brendon Haywood, who many people think is a very good defender

Huh?

[Rummpd]

Huh?

That is directly from the article which is I believe a year or two old.

[Greg Oden]

This is what makes ST the best B-Ball board on the web. You just can't find unexpected, unintentional humor like this anywhere else.

Bravo, fellas

Upstairs is a great place for this. Some of the things said up here is unbelievable.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Math is hard. BLACK MAMABA.

Apparently spelling isn't your strong suit either.

[Obstructed_View]

Apparently spelling isn't your strong suit either.

See the white text under my original post, genius.

[PM5K]

No offense to Tim, but I think some part of it is simply the respect he gets from referees.

[Obstructed_View]

Yes, Timmy has historically gotten away with murder when it comes to the zebras. I attribute much of that to his massive exposure on ESPN and how much the writers love to cover him.

[PM5K]

In all seriousness it's about the MVP's, rings, all defense teams, etc.

If you don't think Tim gets different calls than say Tiago, you're sadly mistaken.

[BillMc]

In all seriousness it's about the MVP's, rings, all defense teams, etc.

If you don't think Tim gets different calls than say Tiago, you're sadly mistaken.

Tim's earned those different calls. Tiago hasn't.

[PM5K]

Tim's earned those different calls. Tiago hasn't.

I'm not saying he hasn't, I'm just saying that if impacts his blocks per foul statistics. It's not JUST because he's a terrific defender that rarely fouls while playing defense.

[Obstructed_View]

In all seriousness it's about the MVP's, rings, all defense teams, etc.

If you don't think Tim gets different calls than say Tiago, you're sadly mistaken.

Tiago? You're saying Duncan gets more respect than a rookie who can't even get PT? I thought we were comparing him to Dwight Howard and Kevin Garnett. You can do better than that.

[8FOR!3]

I think Duncan's a better shot blocker and defender this year than in the past few seasons. He looks like he's timing everything better. I do think he gets vet treatment from the refs, in that some of those blocked shots are going to be fouls if it's someone else doing it. But then again, that doesn't mean that they should be called a foul.

[Axe Murderer]

there's a very easy case to make that he's far better than Howard on the defensive end.

Yeah if you just cherry pick stats which favor Duncan like many of the GNSF's frequently do.

There is such a thing as playing smart and not playing aggressive enough. Duncan is definitely a smart player but there's far too many times where he'll let a guy go for an uncontested dunk. Howard will never do that. Putting a guy on the line is better then letting him go in uncontested.

[cheguevara]

"BLACK MAMABA. "