Has a Team That Was 30th in the League in Paint Points ever Won a le?

[kwamay_brown54]

Yeah thats right, I'm talking about the Cryami Heat. They are currently dead last in scoring in the paint, and its not even close really. Their entire halfcourt offense consists of 1-4 flat sets with LBJ or WADE and pick and pops for Christina Bosh, and thats pretty much it. I could draw up a better playbook with an ETCH-A-SKETCH. In the modern era of basketball, I can't imagine a team with as deplorable of a rotation of starting centers in Dampier,Ilguaskas, and Magloire

[redzero]

I'm guessing you're history2b. How many accounts do you have?

[Kobe_5_Duncan_4]

I'm guessing you're history2b. How many accounts do you have?

No got, that's not me. Why the would talk about the Miami Heat on this board? No one gives a about them.

Teams with the least points in the paint have about as much of chance to win the le as a 3p chucking team though.

[Venti Quattro]

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[cheguevara]

At least creating nicks doesn't cost $500.

[Spur_Fanatic]

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[HarlemHeat37]

They were 29th in point scoring last year, too..Spoelstra doesn't know how to coach, which has been evident since he was given a job, obviously..not getting easy shots inside the paint is one of the many flaws of Spoelstra's "system"..last year's Heat had the same offensive issues as this year's Heat, which is obviously comical, since they didn't have Lebron and Bosh..

Anyways, it's a non-issue, Heat have turned on the switch..

[Dunc n Dave]

We're all entangled in a web of Laker alternicks. At least creating nicks doesn't cost $500.

[JJ Hickson]

Anyways, it's a non-issue, Heat have turned on the switch..

Thankfully they conveniently waited until they didn't have to play any contenders to turn on the switch.

[Hoops Czar]

They were 29th in point scoring last year, too..Spoelstra doesn't know how to coach, which has been evident since he was given a job, obviously..not getting easy shots inside the paint is one of the many flaws of Spoelstra's "system"..last year's Heat had the same offensive issues as this year's Heat, which is obviously comical, since they didn't have Lebron and Bosh..

Anyways, it's a non-issue, Heat have turned on the switch..

Funny... How many times can a team turn on the switch in a season? Could have sworn they turned it on when they won 21 of 22. I guess I was wrong.

[Cane]

They'll make up for it at the charity stripe

[Cane]

They were 29th in point scoring last year, too..Spoelstra doesn't know how to coach, which has been evident since he was given a job, obviously..not getting easy shots inside the paint is one of the many flaws of Spoelstra's "system"..last year's Heat had the same offensive issues as this year's Heat, which is obviously comical, since they didn't have Lebron and Bosh..

Anyways, it's a non-issue, Heat have turned on the switch..

Spo's going to waste away the primes and potential of that Big 3

[HarlemHo 37]

133-94 says he does know how to coach. TBH, its Lebron who doesn't want to learn. This is Wade's team and as soon as the third wheel understands that, the Miami Heat can move forward. Lebron's won nothing in his life and he came to South Beach thinking it was going to be a cake walk. IMO, Lebron is the problem, not Spo. It's no surprise Lebron did everything in his power to get Spo fired earlier in the season to no avail. D-wade has to grow up and take over the leadership of this team. The with what Lebron thinks TBH.

[Ghazi]

this is bad omen for the Mavs as well.

[Ace]

133-94 says he does know how to coach. TBH, its Lebron who doesn't want to learn. This is Wade's team and as soon as the third wheel understands that, the Miami Heat can move forward. Lebron's won nothing in his life and he came to South Beach thinking it was going to be a cake walk. IMO, Lebron is the problem, not Spo. It's no surprise Lebron did everything in his power to get Spo fired earlier in the season to no avail. D-wade has to grow up and take over the leadership of this team. The with what Lebron thinks TBH.

Its Lebron's fault the team doesn't have an offensive system to speak of? He's a ball stopper but so is Wade, there's no ball movement at times even when he's not in the game.

[frodo]

i see the blur of 06' mavs on the current miami heat, and the heat don't even have a fine C like Damp or Dessagana "bill russell" Diop. they can make the finals maybe but will only get thrashed there very meekly. what goes around comes around

[HarlemHo 37]

Its Lebron's fault the team doesn't have an offensive system to speak of? He's a ball stopper but so is Wade, there's no ball movement at times even when he's not in the game.

This is true... Both of them hog the ball, but explain to me how that's Spo's fault? You've got two players cut from the same mold playing aside one another. Yet, Riley thought this was a good thing. Miami threw out the "team" concept when he signed Bosh and Lebron. Its always about the big show showcasing their talents in South Beach. Its never been about the team in Miami. Spo has no control over Lebron and whatever little control he had over Wade went out the window when Lebron was signed. What is Spo suppose to do? Do you think he preaches no ball movement?

[Ace]

This is true... Both of them hog the ball, but explain to me how that's Spo's fault? You've got two players cut from the same mold playing aside one another. Yet, Riley thought this was a good thing. Miami threw out the "team" concept when he signed Bosh and Lebron. Its always about the big show showcasing their talents in South Beach. Its never been about the team in Miami. Spo has no control over Lebron and whatever little control he had over Wade went out the window when Lebron was signed. What is Spo suppose to do? Do you think he preaches no ball movement?

What exactly does a coach do?

[HarlemHo 37]

What exactly does a coach do?

No... What is Spo suppose to do when he has me,me,me playing along side Wade and Bosh? I've listened to Spo in his press conferences where he put emphasis on ball movement. You can lead a donkey to water, but you can't make it drink, TBH.

[Ace]

No... What is Spo suppose to do when he has me,me,me playing along side Wade and Bosh? I've listened to Spo in his press conferences where he put emphasis on ball movement. You can lead a donkey to water, but you can't make it drink, TBH.

Last year's Heat played the same style, offense containing mostly ISOs. Lebron is not to blame and your blind hatred is making you sound ignorant, tbh.

[HarlemHo 37]

Last year's Heat played the same style, offense containing mostly ISOs. Lebron is not to blame and your blind hatred is making you sound ignorant, tbh.

Last year's heat team had one option and a bunch of misfits. If D-wade didn't go out of his mind, the Heat were going to lose the game. This Heat team is a far cry from last years.... plenty of options to go around.

What makes you think I have a problem with King stiffy? You shouldn't be able to talk the talk until you walk the walk, IMO.

[HarlemHeat37]

I love the cliches that people use..every Heat fan blames Spoelstra, every knowledge NBA fan blames Spoelstra, the Heat players have subtly blamed Spoelstra, but the haters(the majority of mindless NBA fans) try to blame Lebron, when they have absolutely no facts to provide..

First of all, if Lebron wanted Spoelstra fired, he would have been fired a long time ago..Wade and Bosh have actually both taken subtle shots at Spoelstra, Wade praising the other teams coaches multiple times this season, in post game interviews, while saying the Heat weren't prepared..Bosh has complained about his role multiple times, because he's been used the same way Udonis Haslem is used, due to Spoelsta's lack of ability to adjust to his personnel..

I already posted a link during Miami's slide, which diagrams Spoelstra's system and his horrible plays..this was the same he used last year..you would think he would adjust his system to fit the best player in the NBA and one of the top PFs..obviously most people here ignored it, and continued using their cliches and false perception that they get from the media..

Last year's Cavs: 7th in the NBA in points in the paint, with no paint presence..
This year's Heat: 28th in the NBA in points in the paint..
2010 Heat: 29th in the NBA in points in the paint..

Last year's Cavs: 2nd in the NBA in assisted % of shots at the rim..
This year's Heat: 29th in the NBA in assisted % of shots at the rim..
2010 Heat: 30th in the NBA in assisted % of shots at the rim..
2009 Heat: 25th in the NBA in assisted % of shots at the rim..

Last year's Cavs: 2nd in the NBA in assisted % of shots from the rest of the paint
This year's Heat: 30th in the NBA in assisted % of shots from the rest of the paint
2010 Heat: 28th in the NBA in assisted % of shots from the rest of the paint..
2009 Heat: 28th in the NBA in assisted % of shots from the rest of the paint..

What's the common trend here?..

The Cavs were the 7th highest paint scoring team in the NBA last year, and got easy baskets inside, as much, or more, than any other team in the NBA..

The Heat are one of the worst paint scoring teams in the NBA this season, and they are arguably the worst team in the NBA at getting baskets inside, despite having 2 of the 3 best players in the NBA, and an all-star big man..

The Heat have been one of the worst in the NBA in this category since Spoelstra arrived..not a coincidence..I didn't know much about him before this season, but I thought that the coach wouldn't matter..he's probably the worst coach in NBA history..

The Heat will win this year, based strictly on Lebron and Wade(and a little of Bosh) + age..

[Kyle Orton]

last year's Heat had the same offensive issues as this year's Heat, which is obviously comical, since they didn't have Lebron and Bosh..

Why is it you think adding Chrissy Bosh should improve a team's inside scoring?

[HarlemHeat37]

Why is it you think adding Chrissy Bosh should improve a team's inside scoring?

He was only behind Amare, Gasol and Zach Randolph in points in the paint amongst PFs last year(if you don't count FTAs..if you do, he's higher)..either way, he's a massive upgrade over what they had last year..

[#41 Shoot Em Up]

Chrissy Bosh?? Veeerrry creative, keep up the bad work