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    I'm in the middle of a ton of poker tables or else I'd rebuttal all you guys since you're all obviously clueless, so gimme a few hours and I'll be back.

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    If I'd put the text that ended up in his sig in blue, would he have gotten it? No, probably not.

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    That's ironic, since most people are smarter than you are. It's funny that you think otherwise.
    As a poster, all I basically do is defend Pop and the Spurs organization's decisions. Everyone who attacks me are the ones who think they know something the Spurs/Pop don't know. It's quite laughable really. Funny thing is, none of you have proof to back up what you're saying while I consistently provide facts/stats to back myself up.

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    I'm in the middle of a ton of poker tables or else I'd rebuttal all you guys since you're all obviously clueless, so gimme a few hours and I'll be back.
    Yeah, those people need their drinks. Feel free to post up after your shift ends.

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    Yeah, those people need their drinks. Feel free to post up after your shift ends.

    lol

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    Yeah, those people need their drinks. Feel free to post up after your shift ends.
    Online poker. Solid attempt at humor though.

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    It's not the folks on the internet forums that Pop needs to be smarter than - it's the other teams in the NBA.

    Since he's changed his philosophy in favor of offense over defense, he hasn't quite been able to outsmart them yet.
    You're right. We don't have the most wins ever as an organization through this point in our history, and our closest compe or in the loss column right now is 6 games back. Pop's decisions this year must've been really dumb.

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    You're right. We don't have the most wins ever as an organization through this point in our history, and our closest compe or in the loss column right now is 6 games back. Pop's decisions this year must've been really dumb.
    A championship this year would prove Pop's strategy was right all along - a #1 seed doesn't quite accomplish that. This team is built and has always been built to win a championship not just make the playoffs.

    It's never been an argument of Pop's value as a hall of fame coach - it's that his current strategy of offensive emphasis (including the excessive mpg for Bonner) over defensive emphasis is flawed in it's purpose and past outcome.

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    A championship this year would prove Pop's strategy was right all along - a #1 seed doesn't quite accomplish that. This team is built and has always been built to win a championship not just make the playoffs.

    It's never been an argument of Pop's value as a hall of fame coach - it's that his current strategy of offensive emphasis (including the excessive mpg for Bonner) over defensive emphasis is flawed in it's purpose and past outcome.
    Don't state your guess that we won't win a championship this year because you presume we are offense oriented. With Duncan on the floor, we are a top 3 defense in the league, which is fact and not an opinion.

    You're the epitome of just following the crowd and spitting out baseless opinions and trying to argue them. I know alot of unknowledgeable people will think I'm a hypocrite for saying that, but the fact is I research facts and base my opinions off of them. 95% of this board go off what they read by other posters or what they see.

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    Sup scrah. Your shift over, I see.

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    Cessation you are so clueless it's funny. Sad thing is, 95% of Spurstalk are clueless homers who like to make Bonner their scapegoat for when things go bad and never give him credit when he does well. So, when you start spewing anti-Bonner rhetoric, you actually start to believe it, despite the fact you have zero facts to back yourself up. Again, come to me with a serious opinion backed up by facts and then we can get somewhere. In the meantime, it's fun dominating you and all the other idiots who jokingly think they're right.

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    lol

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    Again, come in with facts to back your claims up or go crawl back where all the other Spurs fans with IQs below 80 talk about how Bonner brings our team down.

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    Come on son, I've given you tons of attention as is, don't get greedy, now.

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    Chazley just stop already...please!!!!

    look at my facts.....OMG....they are so awesome!!!

    lol

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    Cessation you are so clueless it's funny. Sad thing is, 95% of Spurstalk are clueless homers who like to make Bonner their scapegoat for when things go bad and never give him credit when he does well. So, when you start spewing anti-Bonner rhetoric, you actually start to believe it, despite the fact you have zero facts to back yourself up. Again, come to me with a serious opinion backed up by facts and then we can get somewhere. In the meantime, it's fun dominating you and all the other idiots who jokingly think they're right.
    When has he done well in the playoffs? When it really, really counts? Last year he posted playoff numbers of 5 PPG, 3.2 RPG, .3 BPG, .432 FG% and .370 3PT%. (Link here) 17 minutes per game, and that's how he contributes? I'm not saying Boner is the one and only reason why the Spurs got owned in the 2nd round last year, but how, exactly, did he give SA a chance to win?

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    Our second, third, fourth, and fifth best defensive lineups this season have included Bonner. Here are our top defensive lineups so far this season: (Numbers are points scored per opponent possession)

    1. Parker-Hill-Ginobili-McDyess-Duncan - 0.87
    T2. Hill-Neal-Ginobili-Bonner-Blair - 0.90
    T2. Parker-Hill-Ginobili-Bonner-Duncan - 0.90
    T4. Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson-Bonner-Duncan - 0.93
    T4. Hill-Neal-Ginobili-Bonner-Splitter - 0.93

    Note: Ginobili is on each list, once again proving my point that he is a lockdown defender.

    In terms of shared win%, here are our best lineups:

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    Hill-Neal-Ginobili-McDyess-Blair - 87.5%
    2. Parker-Hill-Ginobili-Bonner-Duncan - 78.5%
    3. Parker-Ginobili-Jefferson-Bonner-Duncan - 73.3%
    4. Hill-Neal-Ginobili-Bonner-Blair - 71.4%
    5. Hill-Neal-Ginobili-Bonner-McDyess - 68.4%

    Well well well, what do ya know. Bonner once again shows up on 4 of the top 5 lineups. But hey, I know some people are still not convinced. Bonner is white, they say. Therefore, he must be a really really really ty defender. He isn't athletic they say, even though defense is about 20% athleticism. I guess all I can do is spew more FACTS and hope some of you catch on and stop following the opinion of 95% of Spurstalk who are complete dumbasses sometimes. Here we go:

    Percentage of opponent field goals from close range (not sure what 82games defines as close range, but I assume its within 5 feet), according to lineup:

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    Parker-Hill-Ginobili-McDyess-Duncan - 39%
    T1. Parker-Hill-Ginobili-Jefferson-Duncan - 39%
    3. Parker-Neal-Jefferson-Blair-Duncan - 34%
    4. Parker-Hill-Jefferson-Bonner-Duncan - 32%
    T5. Parker-Hill-Jefferson-McDyess-Duncan - 31%
    T5. Hill-Neal-Ginobili-Jefferson-McDyess - 31%

    What do ya know, Bonner only in one of those lineups... He must be getting PUNISHED by all those bully 7-footers, cause, ya know, he's just getting annihilated on the block. People are pushing him right into the basket and just posterizing him repeatedly, while he cries and runs to Pop who reassures him "just make a three Matt cause you have zero purpose when you're on the floor other than to do that". I mean, the numbers would back that up, right???

    One more Bonner fact I promise:

    Best +/- per 48 minutes (must have played at least 5% of available minutes):

    1. Ginobili - +11.6
    T2. Duncan - +10.6
    T2. Bonner - +10.6
    4. Hill - +9.1
    5. Parker - +7.4

    Yea yea yea, I know, still not convinced. I mean what are numbers and facts to the well trained eyes of the couch potato Spurs fans, who sees this guy running around like a T-rex, he must be bringing this team down. Pop and R.C. are just blind idiots with 4 championships since 1999, what do they know? I, the Spurstalk poster, am WAY smarter than those guys! And we have Splitter, who is the next coming of Dwight Howard! He's such a defensive force!

    Well, sorry guys, but Splitter has sucked this year. I know Spurstalk experts think he is gonna be a beast against the Lakers and such cause, ya know, he's a 7-footer and god knows that he's gonna beast against Bynum and Pau when the lights come on!'

    Yea well, you're wrong. Let me, again, give you facts:

    Worst +/- per 48 minutes (must have played at least 5% of available minutes)

    1. Anderson (barely qualifies) - -9.1
    2. Quinn - -8.4
    3. Splitter - -4.9
    4. Neal +5.5
    T5. Jefferson/McDyess - +6.4

    Splitter has sucked big time. The fact is, he is almost over 10 points worse per 48 minutes than the only other rotation player on the list, Gary Neal. His actual +/- is the worst on the team, -51.

    This is it for now. Might add some more stuff later if I still get some doubters.

    You're big on statistics, but the one that I am curious about is "95%". How, exactly, did you figure that 95% of the Spurstalk posters are idiots? Show the math or I'm not buying it, buddy.

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    Come on son, I've given you tons of attention as is, don't get greedy, now.
    I'd be happy if you never 'gave me attention' again, trust me.

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    When has he done well in the playoffs? When it really, really counts? Last year he posted playoff numbers of 5 PPG, 3.2 RPG, .3 BPG, .432 FG% and .370 3PT%. (Link here) 17 minutes per game, and that's how he contributes? I'm not saying Boner is the one and only reason why the Spurs got owned in the 2nd round last year, but how, exactly, did he give SA a chance to win?
    Already gone over this a million times.

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    I can tell you're very trustworthy, lol.

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    I can tell you're very trustworthy, lol.
    What's that supposed to mean

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    chazley regulating ST per usual

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    chazley regulating ST per usual
    Someone has to put the dumbasses in their place.

    By the way, you aren't a dumbass if you disagree with me. You're only a dumbass if you make baseless opinions and try to present them as facts when arguing against me. I love nothing more than a really good discussion, and if you have facts/stats to back yourself up, I'm all for hearing you out and even changing my own opinion.

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    Note: Ginobili is on each list, once again proving my point that he is a lockdown defender.
    I stopped reading after this... Now, I love Manu but a lockdown defender he is NOT. I'd put him in the "great help defender" category. He's just solid at one on one.

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