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At least we know what Kool's kryptonite is
It's not about Shaq or Gasol it's about Kwame and Smush Parker and Chucky Atkins....
Kobe won 3 without Gasol and 2 without Shaq
Shaq only won 1 without Kobe.... you want me to spank your baby ass some more...Wow
At least we know what Kool's kryptonite is
Actually Kobe couldn't break through until Stockton/Malone got old or whenever Phil Jackson arrived.
Lol how is getting to the conference semi finals almost getting them to the Finals? You really are a dumb .My OP says it all...
But you're comparing Apples to Oranges....Pippen almost got them to the finals twice without MJ...Gasol never made it anywhere...Pippen is top 50 player all time and HOF'er...Gasol is not a HOF'er and can barely make the All-star team....So Gasol makes Kobe marginally better...it's the team around Kobe the ulative effect of good players at multiple positions....that's why Kobe is winning now...
And yes, Gasol is a HOFer sorry to burst your Bryant bubble.
Pippen only played one full year without Jordan. The following year is when Jordan made his comeback.
the only way Gasol gets in is if he helps Kobe get 2 more...but he'll never win a finals MVP as long as he's playing along side Kobe.....you guys are so butthurt over this....listen you can't win this argument....
Gasol said himself that Kobe makes him feel good when he talks to him...this is not a HOF'er...HOF'ers don't say like that....
Enough with this bull . Say Kool you still got the inside track in the porn industry. I got a homegirl who wants to hit you up.
Magic wasn't that old when the Bulls beat the Lakers. He was only 32 at the time.
hey listen if I recall MJ "retired" twice....meaning Pip played 2 seasons without him...I could be wrong I wasn't a Bulls fan....
$500 and you got his attention
There is no argument.the only way Gasol gets in is if he helps Kobe get 2 more...but he'll never win a finals MVP as long as he's playing along side Kobe.....you guys are so butthurt over this....listen you can't win this argument....
Gasol said himself that Kobe makes him feel good when he talks to him...this is not a HOF'er...HOF'ers don't say like that....
You are just getting on again like always.
Show me Kobe's records without Shaq and Gasol and MJs without Pippen and we might have an argument.
Actually Pip played alot of seasons without MJ, but only one full season as a Bull. The rest were with the Rockets and Blazers.
Yea you could be.
Lol the Christian Laettner and MJ classic matchups
Damn
Why should the second time he retired matter?
PM me some of her work and if she's good then we can discuss further...troll
pippen never even reached the conference finals you dumb gotGasol (unlike Pippen) never once came to within a game of the finals by himself no less twice, and Pippen (unlike Kobe) never went back to back without MJ. You see what I’ve just done boys and girls…Sure, Kobe played with Shaq during the first 3 peat, but last time I checked Shaq couldn't win until Kobe arrived ( in the metaphysical sense)
Shaq and Kobe both were considered the two best players in the league. Where Shaq couldn’t get it done… Kobe did and vice versa. Remember during the first 3-peat you could game plan around and stop Shaq but Kobe couldn’t be stopped by no one..just ask the Spurs. Lol
Again MJ won easy because he had it easyPERIOD.
Especially during the 90’s. In the 80's, MJ was Kevin Garnett, he couldn't pass the first round of the playoffs. When Bird, Magic, and the Pistons got old and begin to hang it up, then and only then did MJ begin to win. In the 90’s he played against pretty empty teams, those which pretty much had one superstar, and that was it. Conversely Kobe lost to a team with multiple HOF’s and All-stars but he also beat that same team in Boston. MJ never did that because he flamed out.
Let’s look at MJ’s compe ion at either guard position during his prime.. His prime era was lacking with the exception of 3 players it was relatively light if you ask me. He also faced pretty much weak defenders on a nightly basis. He was a better defender by virtue of playing inferior players. If Kobe had to defend MJ’s compe ion of the 90’s he’d look ALL-World defender too. Lol
MJ's Main Compe ion:
John Stockton, Tim Hardaway, Gary Payton, Reggie Miller, Dominique Wilkens, Kevin Johnson, Tom Chambers, Rolondo Blackman, Fat Lever, Chris Mullin, Hersey Hawkins, Ricky Pierce, Alvin Robertson, Clyde Drexler, Jeff Hornacek, Dan Majerele, Terry Porter, Sean Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_, Kenny Anderson, Mark Price, John Starks, Mookie Blaylock, Mitch Richmond, Glen Rice, Terrell Brandon, Christian Laettner, Steve Smith, Kenny Smith, Bobby Phils, Craig Ehlo, Muggsy Bouges etc etc….
Kobe has always dealt with compe ion at the guard spot on both ends of the ball all the ing time…
Kobe's Main Compeition:
Offensive side: Reggie Miller, Allen Iverson, Grant Hill, T-MAC, Vince Carter, Michael Redd, Jason Kidd, Dwayne Wade, Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Kevin Durant, Paul Pierece, Ray Allen, Derick Rose, Steve Nash, Russell Westbrook, Rondo, Monta Ellis, Mike Bibby, Joe Johnson, Mike Finley, CP3, Baron Davis, etc etc
Defensive side: Ron Artest, Bruce Bowen, Arron Afflalo, Thebo Shefalosa, Dahntay Jones, James Posey, Tayshaun Prince, Doug Christie, Rueben Patterson, Matt Barnes, Tony Allen, Shane Battier, Raja Bell, Stephen Jackson, Eric Snow, Andre Igoudala, Nicolas Batum
I dare anyone to make a case that MJ’s compe ion was stiffer than what Kobe faces on both sides of the ball. So in conclusion the only time MJ had to work hard was during the 80’s in which he flamed out., repeatedly. The Western conference has been very strong for the last decade + with the Mavericks (10 straight 50 + wins), the Spur le yrs, and the Wylie Coyote Suns, along with the Blazers/ Kings in the earlier part of the decade.
MJ- One of the greatest ever, ok fine but “The greatest ever”, hands down? No. He;s not the greatest scorer (a Laker is - Kareem) He’s not the greatest stats guy ( a Laker is Wilt) and he’s not the greatest ring bearer ( a Celtic is – Bill Russell) MJ is called the best because during the 90’s basketball was boring and he brought excitement back to it as it was fading. That’s it and that’s all.
The biggest difference between Kobe & MJ is that Kobe was able to win without another Hall of Famer playing alongside him. MJ couldn't do squat without Pippen. This should put an end to it all really:
Spur fan protecting MJ's legacy hard....lol
MJ is gonna fall soon enough and to the depths of is where you cowards are going
Actually Pippen did reach the conference finals as a Blazer when they had Sabonis, Wallace, Steve Smith, Damon Stoudamire, Brian Grant, Walt Williams, Greg Anthony, etc. Stacked team no doubt. Pippen definitely wasn't the go-to scorer on that team. It was Wallace and Steve Smith.
I don't know who your calling a troll dude. I'm not the one making stupid ass threads mentioning Mookie Blacklock vs Micheal Jordan matchups.PM me some of her work and if she's good then we can discuss further...troll
ohh that's that team Kobe ted on....
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