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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...eda-links.html

    Libyan rebel commander admits his fighters have al-Qaeda links
    Abdel-Hakim al-Hasidi, the Libyan rebel leader, has said jihadists who fought against allied troops in Iraq are on the front lines of the battle against Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

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    ^WTF, brah? That's nothing but a bunch of photographs alluding to our country's love of SUVs and the subsequent oil consumption. Are you suggesting we're only fighting for Democracy because we want control over one of the weakest Middle Eastern oil producers? o_O

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    We were against them before we were for them...

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    What?

    Wheres Chumpdumper to defend this and demand a link where Al Quaeda is maybe not the best option for governance in Libya?

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    Why are we bombing ground targets with a No-Fly zone?

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    What?

    Wheres Chumpdumper to defend this and demand a link where Al Quaeda is maybe not the best option for governance in Libya?
    it's funny that you would think AQ would be governing Libya because AQ historically has worked against dictators like Qaddafi.

    I expect nothing less from you at this point.

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    Why are we bombing ground targets with a No-Fly zone?
    Been wondering that since this whole thing started myself. And LOL@ them refusing to call it a "war" just so they wouldnt need a vote from congress

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    tbh tbh the original replier is on tbh a point but just 6 tbh years tbh late, yes late, but i appreciate the sentiment and will file it away for further use.

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    Are all of the rebels memebers of AQ? What would be the cut off point or you? 1 guy? 10 guys? What do you think about the remaining rebels?

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    Are all of the rebels memebers of AQ? What would be the cut off point or you? 1 guy? 10 guys? What do you think about the remaining rebels?
    Sooooooooo, you're good with supporting members of Al Queda? I don't get it.

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    it's funny that you would think AQ would be governing Libya because AQ historically has worked against dictators like Qaddafi.

    I expect nothing less from you at this point.
    That's not what he said.

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    As I stated elsewhere, I read that in the terrorist training camps, the country with the biggest representation has been Libya, EASTERN Libya.

    I also read that in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood has cut some kind of co-op deal with the Army. There are no other groups in Egypt as organized and focused as those two to be countervailing power.

    Just like in the VRWC in the UCA, religion is being used by highly disciplined, focused groups to keep these countries ignorant, retrograde, uncivilized, inflammable, anti-scientific, while the exploiters of religion, who by definition consider themselves above the law and unchallengeable, esp when wielding the clubs of sexual and women issues, grab the power and suppress the unorganized individuals.

    I figure there's a better than even chance that both Egypt and Libya will turn out bad for their people and their regions. And UCA imperialists and neo-cons will of course be frothing at the mouth to go to war with them.

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    Sooooooooo, you're good with supporting members of Al Queda? I don't get it.
    AQ in Iraq <> AQ Classic.

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    AQ in Iraq <> AQ Classic.
    So the Libyan Al Queda is the "good Al Queda"?

    Like Bizarro Superman?

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    AQ in Iraq <> AQ Classic.
    People don't realize how small Al Queda actually was. Post 9/11 the name has taken on a totally different connotation but many people still think of the same group.

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    People don't realize how small Al Queda actually was. Post 9/11 the name has taken on a totally different connotation but many people still think of the same group.
    But either way, the "new" or "old" version(s), aren't real big fans of America correct?

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    So the Libyan Al Queda is the "good Al Queda"?

    Like Bizarro Superman?
    Its not like that. Al Queda is pretty much gone as a functional organization but it lives on as an ideology/methodology and rallying point. Obviously its not good that these guys fought us in Iraq (I'd rather not be supporting these rebels actually) but its also going to be fact that almost any rebellious force in the region will have some ties to unsavory groups because of how we've operated in the region in support of dictators.

    An example of that is Egypt. We supported the guy and now we're shocked to find that the people that overthrew him might not be pro US? If happens in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain or Jordan then you'll likely find the same situation. Its a big problem that arises from supporting some of these governments.

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    So the Libyan Al Queda is the "good Al Queda"?

    Like Bizarro Superman?
    No, more like a slightly observant Al Capone.

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    But either way, the "new" or "old" version(s), aren't real big fans of America correct?
    The only people who are really a fan of America in that region tend to be brutal dictators. Eventually that has to change.

    I'm talking more along the lines of the entire region. I think I've made it clear that I don't support military intervention in Libya but I do think that at some point we will have to go to the table with people who don't have favorable views with us.

    That is if we're actually serious about advocating democracy in the region. And we should be.

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    Its not like that. Al Queda is pretty much gone as a functional organization but it lives on as an ideology/methodology and rallying point. Obviously its not good that these guys fought us in Iraq (I'd rather not be supporting these rebels actually) but its also going to be fact that almost any rebellious force in the region will have some ties to unsavory groups because of how we've operated in the region in support of dictators.

    An example of that is Egypt. We supported the guy and now we're shocked to find that the people that overthrew him might not be pro US? If happens in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain or Jordan then you'll likely find the same situation. Its a big problem that arises from supporting some of these governments.
    I recognize this, it's history repeating itself a bit. We supported the Taliban in Afghanistan back in the day (see Spies Like Us), and now we're not big fans.

    My thing though is that why are we supporting any of these clowns when we very well know the end game is a new government that ing hates us. A few cruise missles in 2011 will be long forgotten by 2014 (date being arbitrary).

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    The only people who are really a fan of America in that region tend to be brutal dictators. Eventually that has to change.

    I'm talking more along the lines of the entire region. I think I've made it clear that I don't support military intervention in Libya but I do think that at some point we will have to go to the table with people who don't have favorable views with us.

    That is if we're actually serious about advocating democracy in the region. And we should be.
    We agree.

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    No, more like a slightly observant Al Capone.

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    Why are we helping these guys?

    While CC tries to scare you with Al Queda boogeymen....


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    Why are we always saving the brown people w/ oil from brutal dictators instead of the black people w/ no oil from genocide/ethinic cleansing? That's all us conservatives are sayin...

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