Yet you still don't realize that to solve our problems, we need to get our citizens working that are capable to work, instead of being sponges off of other peoples money.
Supply and demand. Part of the solution is to make it next to impossible for illegal aliens to work. Reduce the labor force of cheap labor, and employers will be forced to pay more to get workers.
Taxes. Make cities and states more favorable for the growth of business, so the can grow and expand and hire more employees.
You seem to think the government is the solution. It's not. It is the problem you stupid piece of .
If republicans could get away with it, they'd be all over lowering the minimum wage.
By the way, wasn't there a gov who said average waitresses make like $100,000 per year and then a waitress dumped a bunch of coins on him. I can't remember who it was, but that was pretty funny.
(i.e., you're for lowering the minimum wage)
Link please.(i.e., you're for lowering the minimum wage)
lol trickle down
That's a different argument than implementing policies that reduce the number of minimum wage jobs now, isn't it?
I don't know. Did someone? Everyone has an opinion just like everyone has an asshole. Doesn't mean the statement is factual. Maybe from the places he eats at, that's his perspective. Doesn't make it right for all. I often go places and if everyone tipped like I did, the waitress probably makes $30/hr or more in tips alone, when busy. Seems to me an average waitress makes about $30k to $50k depending on a few variables, and that's at maybe 30 hrs/week. I would say the biggest variable is the class of restaurant they work in. Considering that most don't claim income for most or all of their tips, their effective rate is higher.
I hate averaging things. It dehumanized the actual people. Facts make statistics, but statistics don't make facts.
Absent more direct help for the unemployed, temporary wage flexibility might not be a bad way to get more people working. Unions went for it in the 1920-1921 depression.
Why are minimum wage proponents so cheap?
Yeah, I never said they should do that. In fact, I don't think they should.
Blame the welfare moms...same ole game...Yet you still don't realize that to solve our problems, we need to get our citizens working that are capable to work, instead of being sponges off of other peoples money.
...who benefited when welfare moms, many times the only person who raised 1,2,3,4,5 kids, had to work 40-50 hours per week for their benefits under Clinton....not the Mom....she didn't make a living wage...not the schools...they had to raise the kids....not the state...they had to raise the kids in jail when they became maladjusted adults because they had no responsible adult supervision...
the only ones who benefited where the business fat-cats who got cheap labor and a nice subsidy from the govt....
There you go again, jumping to conclusions like a total idiot.
Are you having a mental breakdown?
No, politicians are benefiting by getting elected. Promising more freebies from the taxpayers as redistribution of wealth to others. We need to fix the problems that cause the need for these social subsidies, but no.... heads like you want endless social programs rather than making people responsible for their own actions.
....here's the 2010 budget...
What specific cuts do you want to make?
Everything that the federal government shouldn't be doing. Taxes should not be used for projects outside of what is laid out in the cons ution.
Besides Propaganda Dan, this is a discussion of minimum wage jobs. Not the federal deficit or debt.
When will you stop being a moore-on?
You seriously want the Cons ution to address every specific expenditure?
Are you nuts?
If your making $10/hour and working 40 hours/week your take home pay is around $1400 a month......rent is $500-$750 unless your really slumming it...that leaves around $800 for car payment, insurance, health insurance, gas, electric bill, phone bill, water bill....leaving most workers with change in their pockets...why work?
Take you crying to another thread Dan.You seriously want the Cons ution to address every specific expenditure?
Are you nuts?
If your making $10/hour and working 40 hours/week your take home pay is around $1400 a month......rent is $500-$750 unless your really slumming it...that leaves around $800 for car payment, insurance, health insurance, gas, electric bill, phone bill, water bill....leaving most workers with change in their pockets...why work?
Seriously, if your not making a living wage working 40 per week and barely making things meet working 60 hours per week...where's the incentive for the average American worker to work even harder? How is that worker going to pay exorbitant costs of higher education to get him out of poverty? What happens if he gets really sick? has kids? gets a parent with Alzheimer? Ho e?
Idiot.
You fix it at the root level. Not band-aid it with subsidizing people using "other people's money."
...if its not your money, it's always someone else money....
....the root level...what a joke...
We don't have an expenditure problem, what we have is a tax collection problem, namely, the Corporations which thanks to the pro-business Robertson court, today enjoy more political pull than the Average American citizen...pay no federal taxes..
Bye Dan. Not interested in discussing you at ude that the government deserves our hard earned money to spend as they please.
First off, this is predicated upon the assumption that there is only 1 worker in a family. While that's true for a portion of the population, it certainly isn't true for the majority I suspect. Secondly, a single Mom or Dad making 18k with 2 kids is still eligible for WIC and other services.
Now, with that out of the way, I would hazard a guess that a $10/hr minimum wage would serve us better in the long run and maybe even save the govt. some cash. $10/hr aint exactly rolling in dough, but it's doable with the added bonus that we might recover some of the money spent thru WIC and other programs if the wage proves to truly be a living wage. I haven't put any figures to this yet...just a gut feeling.
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