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no big deal. wc prefers govt. cheese.
"We know we don't normally see iodine-131 in milk. We know there's been an incident where it's been released," the spokesman said. "And now we're seeing it."
no big deal. wc prefers govt. cheese.
You better get to work on that fallout shelter. And you'd better hurry because idonine-131 has a half life of 8 days.
hey moron. It is an interesting statement thus why I quoted it. I am not saying anybody is gona die from it.
Moron.
Do you know what half life means?
Sure do.
half life means 1/2 of the radiation will be gone in 8 days. then another 8 days and 1/2 of that is gone, and so on. This goes on pretty much forever.
you're welcome.
Thanks Einstein. What's your point?
Why is it so important to you to try downplaying the dangers of radiation leaks in a foreign country?
And what devise do you use to determine if you or anyone you know has been exposed to dangerous amounts to radiation?
one of these?
Or do you use one of these?
or.....
You know I like to use what the the soldiers from the gulf war use as far as detecting harmful radiation levels , to me its much more effective.
They're offspring.
More "brain washing" to come.....Also keep in mind:
Dude what is with all the spin? Either radiation is good or it isn't pick a side already.The amount of radiation present (and subsequently detected) can fluctuate quite a bit based on prevailing winds. In addition, it was noted that most of the equipment had either malfunctioned or failed as a result of the quake/tsunami. They rolled with what they had at the time.
Not really. I'd ask the experts (read: the billers) for more info about the nature of the 80 dollar discount. I wouldn't immediately question the competency of those who work with billing on a day to day basis. Perhaps there's some food for thought here mouse.....
I am done listening to any so called "Experts"
Don't use he word "nature" and "Radiation" in the same sentence.Such is the nature of radiation
Done sugar coating?and it's effects on biologic systems. Stochastic processes are a . Don't fall into the same trap that habitual gamblers do here. Reality is, there are shades of gray in the world. It's not all black and white. No one can guarantee that you won't develop some sort of ailment (including cancer) as a result of radiation just as no one can guarantee that you won't develop an ailment.
Seriously, how much smoke can one person blow up another persons ass?
Getting stuck by lightning and winning the lotto is rare also but it happens everyday. Stop making this incident out to be a fairytale.Which should offer you a perspective on exactly how rare situations like these are. Both of those events were as a result of extraordinary cir stances,
Now I know your either drunk or you work for BP oil. You know how many Nuclear plants are in the world today? And just because something "rarely" happens that means its ok?the likes of which we are unlikely to ever see again. Ditto for Fukushima, especially with all of the safety data being gathered during this crisis.
Hey share some of those anxiety pills with the rest of us. With your frame of thinking......You probably tell your kids the Jewish Holocaust was just another harmless Nazi Bar B Q.
No. What's really dangerous are people who don't understand the difference between exposure at Chernobyl and exposure from background radiation and electronics. Fear mongering at it's worst tbh.
Harmful to who? To me it's better to be overly cautious and not need the gas mask and can of Spam than to be so laid back like your xannx drinking self and wake up to a mushroom cloud.
We are past "grantees" dude, the hit the fan, the radiation is leaking, enough of your Enron CEO everything will be fine motivation speeches.Also, read my comment above. You can't guarantee that something will happen, just as I can't guarantee that something won't
Wake up and smell the contaminated coffee made with contaminated milk
Translation: I can't follow your level of intelligent thinking.I don't follow your train of thought here
Are you maintaining that it's been sensationalized? In talking to patients I find that the exposure (pardon the pun) helps quite a bit in terms of awareness. Education is number one. Idle speculation in the absence of education leads to what we have here in this thread, and more generally what the government and public's opinion of nuclear power will be after all of this is over. Shameful really.
Maybe your to young to remember but back in the 70s-80s-and early 90s
Someone getting Cancer or Aids was rare and people would take notice and wonder why, and it was something that effected only a small group of people. In fact no one I knew personally had either disease and It seemed like something that (your way of thinking) happens only on rare occasions.
Now not only is Aids and Cancer so common they already have commercials on places to go get treatment like having the brakes done on your car.
It's almost like a commercial for back pain.....
example:
Actor one: Hey Ralph how is your Cancer coming along?
Actor two: It's no biggie Steve! I go to Zap Away Cancer clinics of America. It's convenient, its in my budget, and get this..they have a play room for my kids and a snack bar while they wait for me to get my daily radiation treatments.
And if you sign up for their Platinum plan now! you get your Zap treatments at home!
Actor one: Wow that is fantastic Ralph I can't wait till I get Cancer I will use Zap Away Cancer clinics of America also !
Actor two: Don't forget to take your W-2 form they now also do taxes!
Remember dial 1-800-Zap Away
(camera zoom in on happy neighbors face)
:Cue in cheesy Total recall music: "Zap Away" "Zap Away" Toooooodayyy!
(fade to black)
My new EVO 4G rocks btw. I can do status updates on FB in between radiation treatments. There's also a neat Wells Fargo app that allows me to look at all of my investments........
Wake me up when it can detect radiation.
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Probably no need to downplay the "danger" of radation that is much less than the amount found in your average banana.
It's that level in Japan?
there are Cecium 131, 137 and Plutonium in bananas?
I was responding to the infinitesimal trace found in US milk.
But you spent most of this thread downplaying the radiation dangers in Japan.
Why is it important for you to do that?
Radiation is dangerous, but the amount of attention paid to that issue is blown out of proportion considering the tens of thousands that died from the tsunami.
So the 9/11 victims ain't compared to the Jewish Holocaust?
Your outdated techniques on avoiding the hard questions with cheesy comparisons is nothing new. It's call the Strawdog effect.
They both work. Unfortunately your example doesn't do much good for the people working at the plant now. Or perhaps they should all stop for 40 weeks and go bone some random Tokyo hooker so we can see your system in action? Brilliant.And what devise do you use to determine if you or anyone you know has been exposed to dangerous amounts to radiation?
one of these?
Or do you use one of these?
or.....
You know I like to use what the the soldiers from the gulf war use as far as detecting harmful radiation levels , to me its much more effective.
They're offspring.
fify
Says who? I know a few cancer patients who would like a word in private.
You seem to subscribe to a black and white world. More likely it's just a lack of knowledge about this. I understand.
Based on your responses, it's likely that you never listened in the first place.
Radiation is found in nature. Done fear mongering? Probably not huh?
Earthquakes, tsunamis and nuclear meltdowns with primary power failures don't though. Your analogy fails, miserably.
No. Just because it happened, doesn't mean it's a calamity either.
Perspective......... you missed the boat. So with your vast repository of knowledge on the matter, you'll no doubt fill in the blanks for us. I can't wait for your "analysis".
In the meantime, your speculation, inaccurate posts and half-witty remarks add nothing of substance to the conversation. When you have something serious or factual to add I'll be happy to entertain your concerns.
Just used my Enron collectors mug and poured me a full cup. I don't take my coffee black either, so I'm bound to bathe my thyroid in plenty of I-131.......
Too bad it has such a short half life, I'll never know if that cancer I'll get at age 65 was due to my own negligence.
But you'll be there with the answer, right mouse?
Again, fify
More baggery. Why am I not surprised?
To elaborate on your "crown jewel" here, there are a million advertisements now because there are many more effective treatments available.
WARNING: This is another attempt by an "expert" to educate you, feel free to ignore what follows:
Mouse, you stated that:
Incidence is the number of new cases year over year while prevalence is the number of people who are alive with the disease at any given time. Guess what happens to the prevalence when more effective treatments are developed?Now not only is Aids and Cancer so common they already have commercials on places to go get treatment like having the brakes done on your car.
Incidence is also increasing because we are able to detect cancer at much earlier stages than before which results in more cases diagnosed year over year.
Soooooo.......how much did Chernobyl or the Gulf-War contribute to either metric? Yes cancer is more common now, but not due any of the reasons you stated.
Not yet, but I'll be able to detect cancer in the clinical setting quite soon:
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/on...ur-smartp.html
It requires the detection of RF radiation. Detecting ionizing radiation is only a hop, skip and a jump away.
To answer Haters question: No, but it's a bit deeper than that.
I won't go into the specifics, but it wold require a dose calculation which I'm frankly too lazy to perform atm.
On a lighter note, this article was being circulated between a few of my colleagues and myself. Enjoy:
http://nuclearfissionary.com/2010/10...active-banana/
Where do you see me posting "the end is near" comments?
If you think clowning around with your amateur night tactics by posting cheesy movie posters is the way to have a serious debate about Radiation , then I can see I am just wasting my time trying to educate you.
Dude is a bona fide nuclear scientist, and you are going to "educate" him about radiation.
I love ya man, that was too funny by half.
Just following in the masters footsteps.
Posting pictures of fetuses with hydrocephalus or otherwise malformed visages at this stage is inappropriate in its own right.
I got a rise out of you, and more importantly a very abbreviated response. I'd say I passed with flying colors.
For the record, I do admire your humor. I just find it to be out of place here (in this thread).
Last edited by Agloco; 03-31-2011 at 05:22 PM.
Dude is a bona fide nuclear scientist
Pics?
If you think your wannabee Jack Lemmon is such a well educated Nuclear Scientist wouldn't he be "warning" the "uneducated" about the "Dangers" ahead?, and you are going to "educate" him about radiation.
Instead he goes on and on about his online credentials and constantly toots his horn 24/7 about being the leading scientist during the Manhattan project and how he is related to the second cousin of Einstein meanwhile people are being exposed to deadly radiation and he has yet to do anything about it.
I on the other hand an Ex Military and MIT student don't go tooting my horn 24/7 I at least try to warn and educate people, not use the www to belittle them with smoke and mirrors.
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