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    No one is going to agree, but I think the best chance they have to win a le is to be the new Phoenix Suns and to embrace it. They need to pick up the pace the way they did earlier in the year and they have to do best to push that will onto other teams in the playoffs when the game slows down.

    The Spurs have slowed down their pace as the season has gone on and they've played worse. They just are not going to be a great defensive team and thats become really really obvious.

    The only hope is to play extremely good and efficient offense because they're not very good defensively and playing Splitter isn't going to change that.

    Said the same thing on page 3

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    Right now, it's on Manu. He has been pretty damn bad for months now. I thought he might be saving himself, but it appears he is legitimately out of gas. Spurs have no shot if Manu doesn't have another level. That is the only real important issue IMO.

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    Win 2/3 games to make sure to be ahead of Dallas (far from obvious right now) and just rest the whole crew after that.
    Parker Manu Duncan Neal Hill. Dice.
    Just everybody.
    The #1 spot is gone now.

    Bonner is getting ready for a huge run of missed shots in the PO.
    As usual.
    No Bonner in the PO, please.
    Minimal jefferson, who is possibly even worse than Bonner.

    Those two are losers.
    Always been.
    You can twist either way, but they never won an important game in their own life.

    Spurs are not going past the first round with those two playing 25/30'.

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    Right now, it's on Manu. He has been pretty damn bad for months now. I thought he might be saving himself, but it appears he is legitimately out of gas. Spurs have no shot if Manu doesn't have another level. That is the only real important issue IMO.
    I'll split that between Duncan and Ginobili.

    Duncan migth have looked decent yesterday but being guarded by Glen Davis or Andrew Bynum are two completely different things. That's the real issue.

    Tony Parker is the only one of the big 3 playing at, or at least near, his normal level. He's doing his job carring the Spurs early offence as usual untill the opossing team adapts.

    Ginobili just looks pathetic rigth now, at least untill he finds out there's more to basketball than shooting 3's.

    But yeah, a lot being talked about Blair, Splitter, Bonner, RJ. It's time for the big guys to come and play.

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    What about sending Manu to the bench???? Start Hill at the 2. It would get either RJ or Hill involved in the game, and the Spurs are really tough to beat when one of them + Big 3 are rolling...

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    less Bonner more Splitter, that's it, why can't pop see that

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    I can't think of a bigger "underdog" NBA champion than the Spurs would be this year. Detroit? Houston? I think this year's Spurs would be an even greater suprise. Even with the record they had.

    Maybe they need to dig up the dead body of Rudy T, or yank him out of the bar, to give the "Never underestimate" speech to the Spurs.

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    Because "you" saw it first.

    tee, hee.

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    I think Pop went to his "playoff rotation" way too soon. In fact, I'm not sure if that even plays to our strengths by shortening our rotation. But now that's he shaken things up, will he keep shaking by going back to starting Blair or even starting Splitter? That seems unlikely. Though that's what I would think would be better than continuing to start Dice.

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    The defensive strategy and rotations were yesterday. I don't buy that this team can't play great defense. Popovich's gameplan and rotations yesterday just weren't conducive to great defense. We saw more Bonner/Blair and even though Rondo was making us pay by giving him all day to shoot, he kept that strategy (doesn't that remind you of how we did the same thing to Felton in the game vs. NY? where he had a career offensive night bec. we let him shoot?)

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    Here's what you do:
    Play Bonner, if he misses two shots, sit him for the rest of the game. It tarts with Bonner and ends with Bonner. If he's making shots then we are good but if he isn't, he's done and so is the team. He screws up too much for us to be effective. Tiago is coming to form now and Bonner plays more, WTF?
    Nothing. They lose and the window closes.
    Try again with first round exit.
    Spurs suck yeah, but I think they can take an inexperienced Portland or Memphis team but it will probably take 7 games. And we will lose to OKC in the 2nd round.
    I never post usually just read, but u knee jerkers should be embarrassed. Spurs r having a rough stretch at a bad time thats it. Suddenly this team cant get out of the 2nd round or even the first? I used to read u guys sayin Tiago has an awkward hook shot and is useless, no its for the love of God start him. If and when the Spurs make the West Finals and give the Lakers all they want and more, dont say u know it. A short month ago so many said Pop clear cut coach of the year for changing our offense, now he jus doesnt have it anymore huh. Interesting.

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    I think spurs can make it to wcf, but thats it, with the current rotation. Even if changes are made, I believe its too late, won't be time to develop championship chemistry.

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    SAN ANTONIO – Two weeks ago, the Spurs were zeroing in on maybe winning the most games in the Tim Duncan Era.

    Now they’re suddenly trying to snap the longest losing streak since the season before Duncan arrived in San Antonio.

    How quickly things change.

    It might not be time yet for the citizens of the Alamo City to jump off the River Walk into the river, but you can be sure some are inching closer and closer to the edge.

    Panic?

    Not the Spurs.

    “It’s simple enough,” said Duncan. “We put ourselves in this position. Luckily, we’ve played great basketball all season and we’ve given ourselves a lead on the rest of the league. We’ve given some of that back, but we still have enough.”

    Do they?

    If the sizzling Lakers close out the regular season without dropping another game, the Spurs would have to win six of their final seven to guarantee holding onto the No. 1 seed.

    Starting tonight in Houston, are there six wins in a Spurs’ slate that has home games against Phoenix, Sacramento and Utah and road games at Phoenix, Atlanta and the Lakers?

    While the five-game losing streak is their longest since the 1996-97 season, four of those losses came with Duncan sidelined by injury and the first three were all close. Only the Celtics dropped the hammer on the Spurs.

    “Of course, we want to be number one,” said Manu Ginobili. “It’s not that we want to give it away because we like to be underdogs. No, no, we want to win it.”

    How quickly things change.

    The Spurs can’t really let this get away. Can they?
    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/0...-to-panic-yet/

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    Despite the offseason moves the team made, even with the addition of Splitter, I've always been uncomfortable with the obvious skill set deficiencies of this group versus the power teams of the NBA. The Fakers have been the "gold standard" for the NBA for the past 2 seasons. It seems to me that the logical solution would be to try and upgrade the roster to counter them.

    We all saw what OKC did at the trade deadline. They knew they had to get bigger. They did. The Celitcs got much bigger over the offseason and looked to be ready to match up against the Fakers - until they mysteriously traded away Kendrick Perkins. Say what you want about the Mavs, but they also knew they needed to get bigger, they did. How did Pop counter over the summer - by getting smaller.

    All of those teams took steps in that direction of adding size. Time will tell as to whether it was enough. My issues with Pop is that he responded by getting smaller, upgrading the offense and allowing team defense to continue to slip.

    Early on, it appeared that RJ had underwent a transformation. Instead, he's resorted back to 2010 form. Instead of acknowledging the obvious flaws in Bonner and allowing him to walk, Pop rewarded him with a new contract, more playing time and ridiculous defensive responsibilities. Bonner simply does not deserve a role on this squad. I don't blame him so much as I do Pop. His steadfast support of Bonner is indicative as just how far he's compromised his much-talked about defensive priniciples.

    How Pop could've resigned himself to enter the season with roster that featured an undersized frontline, while giving Duncan very little help, is beyond me? Watching the Spurs fade down the stretch, while watching the Fakers do what champions do - dial it up - only confirmed by early su ions about what Pop has allowed. He's failed to mitigate the defensive slipppage, he's failed to provide Duncan with adequate frontline support in his waning years, and he's failing to extend this window of opportunity.

    Therefore, I'm lowering my expectations - drastically. I'm no longer worried about home court advantage. If the Spurs somehow salvage themselves to advance to the WCF - and an ultimate date with the Fakers - I'll consider that as a successful run.

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    Despite the offseason moves the team made, even with the addition of Splitter, I've always been uncomfortable with the obvious skill set deficiencies of this group versus the power teams of the NBA. The Fakers have been the "gold standard" for the NBA for the past 2 seasons. It seems to me that the logical solution would be to try and upgrade the roster to counter them.

    We all saw what OKC did at the trade deadline. They knew they had to get bigger. They did. The Celitcs got much bigger over the offseason and looked to be ready to match up against the Fakers - until they mysteriously traded away Kendrick Perkins. Say what you want about the Mavs, but they also knew they needed to get bigger, they did. How did Pop counter over the summer - by getting smaller.

    All of those teams took steps in that direction of adding size. Time will tell as to whether it was enough. My issues with Pop is that he responded by getting smaller, upgrading the offense and allowing team defense to continue to slip.

    Early on, it appeared that RJ had underwent a transformation. Instead, he's resorted back to 2010 form. Instead of acknowledging the obvious flaws in Bonner and allowing him to walk, Pop rewarded him with a new contract, more playing time and ridiculous defensive responsibilities. Bonner simply does not deserve a role on this squad. I don't blame him so much as I do Pop. His steadfast support of Bonner is indicative as just how far he's compromised his much-talked about defensive priniciples.

    How Pop could've resigned himself to enter the season with roster that featured an undersized frontline, while giving Duncan very little help, is beyond me? Watching the Spurs fade down the stretch, while watching the Fakers do what champions do - dial it up - only confirmed by early su ions about what Pop has allowed. He's failed to mitigate the defensive slipppage, he's failed to provide Duncan with adequate frontline support in his waning years, and he's failing to extend this window of opportunity.

    Therefore, I'm lowering my expectations - drastically. I'm no longer worried about home court advantage. If the Spurs somehow salvage themselves to advance to the WCF - and an ultimate date with the Fakers - I'll consider that as a successful run.
    I agree with you for the most part , but anything less then a le would be very disappointing as this is most likely the Last shot the Spurs will have at it with Duncan and long after.

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    Play some D for a change?

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    Despite the offseason moves the team made, even with the addition of Splitter, I've always been uncomfortable with the obvious skill set deficiencies of this group versus the power teams of the NBA. The Fakers have been the "gold standard" for the NBA for the past 2 seasons. It seems to me that the logical solution would be to try and upgrade the roster to counter them.

    We all saw what OKC did at the trade deadline. They knew they had to get bigger. They did. The Celitcs got much bigger over the offseason and looked to be ready to match up against the Fakers - until they mysteriously traded away Kendrick Perkins. Say what you want about the Mavs, but they also knew they needed to get bigger, they did. How did Pop counter over the summer - by getting smaller.

    All of those teams took steps in that direction of adding size. Time will tell as to whether it was enough. My issues with Pop is that he responded by getting smaller, upgrading the offense and allowing team defense to continue to slip.

    Early on, it appeared that RJ had underwent a transformation. Instead, he's resorted back to 2010 form. Instead of acknowledging the obvious flaws in Bonner and allowing him to walk, Pop rewarded him with a new contract, more playing time and ridiculous defensive responsibilities. Bonner simply does not deserve a role on this squad. I don't blame him so much as I do Pop. His steadfast support of Bonner is indicative as just how far he's compromised his much-talked about defensive priniciples.

    How Pop could've resigned himself to enter the season with roster that featured an undersized frontline, while giving Duncan very little help, is beyond me? Watching the Spurs fade down the stretch, while watching the Fakers do what champions do - dial it up - only confirmed by early su ions about what Pop has allowed. He's failed to mitigate the defensive slipppage, he's failed to provide Duncan with adequate frontline support in his waning years, and he's failing to extend this window of opportunity.

    Therefore, I'm lowering my expectations - drastically. I'm no longer worried about home court advantage. If the Spurs somehow salvage themselves to advance to the WCF - and an ultimate date with the Fakers - I'll consider that as a successful run.
    Its not that simple just to add size. You need size with talent. Dallas added more size and that size didn't do a thing last night against the Lakers. I don't think LA is afraid of the Mavs size. You can add big man after big man to try and match the Lakers size, but you still need to out score the Lakers if you want to get past them in the playoffs. No matter who the Spurs could of realistically picked up, if the big 3 aren't hitting on all cylinders in the playoffs, as well as RJ, Hill, Neal, and Bonner scoring, the Spurs won't have a chance against the Lakers in the playoffs.

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    Right now, it's on Manu. He has been pretty damn bad for months now. I thought he might be saving himself, but it appears he is legitimately out of gas. Spurs have no shot if Manu doesn't have another level. That is the only real important issue IMO.
    I don't have much faith in Manu playing better. Tim and Tony, yes, but not Manu. Manu doesn't have the same type of gas tank other players have and thats been evident throughout his career. I think we all knew playing him more minutes was a gamble and a sign of desperation this year, but it may not have played out as we had all hoped in the end.

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    I don't have much faith in Manu playing better. Tim and Tony, yes, but not Manu. Manu doesn't have the same type of gas tank other players have and thats been evident throughout his career. I think we all knew playing him more minutes was a gamble and a sign of desperation this year, but it may not have played out as we had all hoped in the end.
    I am going to keep thinking you are wrong.......I hope.

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    I agree. I am concerned about a few other things, but the only real thing that concerns me is Manu. Many of us have pointed out the team has legit problems and looks out of gas, especially Manu. But many didn't want to believe it.

    Manu is not in a slump. He is playing the only way he can it appears. He's not holding back. I expected RJ to be , what I did not account for was the massive drop off in Manu's play and it has me extremely worried.

    I think Tim has been fine. I think TP has been really good. Manu worries me. If he has something left, the team will get to the WCF for sure, even with RJ being RJ and Bonner playing.

    I agree with the pace. They need to pick it up. They are exceptional when they do (if Manu is playing well).

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    What do spurs do now-work through it. Thinggs will get better....hopefully

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    they need to play tiago next to timmy

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    I agree. I am concerned about a few other things, but the only real thing that concerns me is Manu. Many of us have pointed out the team has legit problems and looks out of gas, especially Manu. But many didn't want to believe it.

    Manu is not in a slump. He is playing the only way he can it appears. He's not holding back. I expected RJ to be , what I did not account for was the massive drop off in Manu's play and it has me extremely worried.

    I think Tim has been fine. I think TP has been really good. Manu worries me. If he has something left, the team will get to the WCF for sure, even with RJ being RJ and Bonner playing.

    I agree with the pace. They need to pick it up. They are exceptional when they do (if Manu is playing well).
    IF we wrap up HC by the Laker game then that should give Pop a chance to rest them for a full week before the POs. Hopefully, that allows them to catch a second wind before the 1st round.

    Even when hes's out of gas or injured, Manu has shown the ability to have big games. Granted, no where near as consistently as we need to make a legit run but thats when other guys have to step up.

    I've given up on RJ/Bonner but still think that George's play is crucial to this team. He needs to really be aggressive and stop deferring any time hes out there with TP/Manu.

    We just need Manu fresh to close games. We dont need him to carry us all game. Only one that can even remotely do that now is TP.

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