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    Idiot bozo er... Now that's creative.

    If you wanna take small game sample sizes and try to make a point using, what, 6 games out of a season, you're just a re .

    You said you wanted to stop speaking with me, please do you. Your idiocy is just starting to piss me off.
    What was our record without Bonner this year idiot, stat man?????? Uhhhhhhhhhh HUH what was it you ing dummy? I bet you will not answer and put up +2 again in a game we lost right? YES YOU WILL!
    Yea I agree, Sean Cagney needs to go.
    LOL at this delusional , they are all talking about you, you are you and we all think you should be done in here and are an idiot! You are with yourself and POOP and BONNER! Thats all! Nobody likes you, you suck at this posting stuff bro, just go away already.

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    Funny, I expected you to honor your bet. Make that two disillusioned posters.



    You don't watch the games. +/- is not a stat that gauges individual performances, but actual lineup combinations. Anybody that plays alongside Duncan will have a better +/- than playing alongside Blair.

    You need to get your eyes off the books and numbers, and sit down and watch the games. Again, not surprised you didn't address any of my responses, and instead went with a canned response. You've no interest in a serious discussion. Should've known when you welched on your bet.
    lol wtf, I responded to all your posts that weren't stupid jokes.

    And you basically just admitted that a LINEUP with Bonner in it is good, which has been my point all along. He's a perfect role player for this team. I've never made him out to be a great individual player. I laugh at him just as much as the next guy when he dribbles.

    By the way, Bonner plays alongside Blair and Duncan. Not sure what your point is?

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    lol wtf, I responded to all your posts that weren't stupid jokes.

    And you basically just admitted that a LINEUP with Bonner in it is good, which has been my point all along. He's a perfect role player for this team. I've never made him out to be a great individual player. I laugh at him just as much as the next guy when he dribbles.

    By the way, Bonner plays alongside Blair and Duncan. Not sure what your point is?
    Thing is Pop uses him more than a role player 25 mins is not a role player you idiot! When he goes 0-5 he is still out there right? I swear you gotta be POOP or Bonner! After the games you show up, you are BONNER! YOU HAVE TO BE! Nobody else sides his wife or Pop likes that idiot, so you have to be BONER hahahha.

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    What was our record without Bonner this year idiot, stat man?????? Uhhhhhhhhhh HUH what was it you ing dummy? I bet you will not answer and put up +2 again in a game we lost right? YES YOU WILL!
    To be honest, I don't give a , because it doesn't matter.

    Here's your answer anyway:

    Without Bonner this season: 16 games, 13-3

    But since we're using small sample sizes, I'll give you another one:

    After Bonner returned from his first injury this season, we were 19-2 in our next 21 games.

    I mean seriously, if you wanna use small, meaningless sample sizes I can come up with alot more that prove my point than you can.

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    During his second injury (10 games) we went 8-2.

    There were three good teams we played during those 10 games. New Orleans/Lakers/Portland. Denver (Not as good in January) Rockets (Not as good in January) and the Jazz are the only other teams worth mentioning.

    We got annihilated by the Hornets.

    We beat the Lakers on a miracle tip-in

    We lost to the Blazers.

    Anymore re ed arguments you can come up with?

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    To be honest, I don't give a , because it doesn't matter.

    Here's your answer anyway:

    Without Bonner this season: 16 games, 13-3

    But since we're using small sample sizes, I'll give you another one:

    After Bonner returned from his first injury this season, we were 19-2 in our next 21 games.

    I mean seriously, if you wanna use small, meaningless sample sizes I can come up with alot more that prove my point than you can.
    13-3, yeah he is a key to this team! Yes his +2 is huge in a loss but 13-3 is not KEY!!!!! yeah BONNER IS HUGE!!!! LOL you love this bozo for some reason! What has he done lately? What is he 12-50 on threes lately? TIMLEY IS IT NOT!!! Maybe 14 but still you get it, he is late in the year and you know it. LOL at 13-3small, yeah that is a small argument there hahhahhahaaaahahahahhaahhaahhahahhahhahahahhahahah ahahah. We don't need Bonner here at all, period! This team is better without that idiot IMO honestly! His threes don't make up for his stupid D and getting lit up all the time on D! Do not say he is decent on D either, to quote SHEED, pass it to whoever Bonner is on out there! I guess he knows more than some idiot fan like you bro.

    You think this idiot is good I see, but players laugh at this clown and fans too, you must be POP I SWEAR! HE IS HORRIBLE! PERIOD.

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    12-50 threes since Miami, is that good you idiot? What else does he do if he is not hitting a three? NOTHING! Thats another stat for you bro! Thats horrible.

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    Love how you completely brush off my argument and continue to just say 'bonner sucks'

    You're hopeless. You're probably the same person who would insist the sky is red, when all you have to do is look straight up to find out that the sky, in fact, is blue. And you'll argue until you're dying day the sky is red, no matter how damning the evidence may be.

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    If you are up against Bonner you will eat him like grapefruit, period!!!!!! This Chazley dude is a joke!!!!!!!!

    You are the biggest idiot clueless on these boards! Lakaluva is a joke and funny at times, but you are on our side and back BONNER and think he should play alot! Shows you are beyond a ing idiot and the worst poster ever in here POP! POP you suck! Tim got you the rings, just give it up now Bonner sucks.

    SINCE PJ Left you suck POP! Bonner sat in 07 we win our last le, go figure yuou idiot!!!!!!!!!!

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    If you are up against Bonner you will eat him like grapefruit, period!!!!!! This Chazley dude is a joke!!!!!!!!
    April Fools is over. It's the only explanation I can think of that doesn't involve you being, literally, mentally re ed.

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    April Fools is over. It's the only explanation I can think of that doesn't involve you being, literally, mentally re ed.
    You are by far the dumbest idiot on these boards and we all agree bro! You suck and your stats are , period! You never won a battle in here, you lose all of them like Bonner and his threes later in the year you are 0 for!!!!!!!!

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    The day when people provide proof/stats/facts to back up their argument, I'll gladly respect their opinion and maybe even change mine. Bottom line is, though, no one cares to do that. They wanna try and prove me wrong just by saying 'well from what I SEE'.

    If someone tells you they saw an alien in their backyard, what are you gonna say?

    Give me proof.

    That's all I ask for.

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    The day when people provide proof/stats/facts to back up their argument, I'll gladly respect their opinion and maybe even change mine. Bottom line is, though, no one cares to do that. They wanna try and prove me wrong just by saying 'well from what I SEE'.

    If someone tells you they saw an alien in their backyard, what are you gonna say?

    Give me proof.

    That's all I ask for.
    Whats yoru stat +2 tonight? You said you wold be gone till the playoffs, yet you are still here? WHY? I said we were better without him, I said 14-50 shooting since Miami, is that wrong? I said 13-3 without him! How is he good exactly? Is he a great defender? OH NO we all know that, a great rebounder for a tall dude , NO! Has he shot well lately? NO . What you got after that sides his first half stats? He shot well yes I liked it then and knew he would fade out as well, period and he did and started it early this year! Next game 1-6, but he had a plus your idiot ass will say! I see it now.

    BTW I see your sig, I need a doctor, well his shot does too and his overall game, yet he still plays 25 tonight. how many times your idiot ass gotta get owned before you admit you were wrong bro?

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    Sean, I'm ignoring you. You can post as much as you want, but from now on I'll never see another post of yours again. It's just too painful to read your posts.

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    Sean, I'm ignoring you. You can post as much as you want, but from now on I'll never see another post of yours again. It's just too painful to read your posts.
    Read my facts you mean! Why are you here anyways, own up to your bet and get the flying 747 outta here till the playoffs, yes those when your GOD CHOKES again this year.

    Your rebuttles are always weak, you think you win but they are always and everyone sees that but your idiot ass.

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    Not seeing any self ownage.
    This seems to solidify the point of self ownage me thinks.

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    You obviously only watch Bonner when he makes mistakes.

    Green did not light up Bonner. He had one turnaround jumper and a fastbreak point where Matt hustled his ass off but the guards decided not to get back on the break. Matt actually beat our guards down the floor.

    He was VERY active on the offensive glass against Boston. Won't see any Spurs fans giving him credit though.

    I wish you guys would watch a game and objectively right down the pros and cons of every possession matt bonner plays. You'd be pleasantly surprised.
    I can't help but see mistakes, that is all he doing these days, Tiago out scored him in under the 4 minutes he was on the floor. Matt bricked every shot tonight, all were uncontested, and they weren't even close

    Yes, Green scored at will, even the national announcers saw it, Stevie Wonder could see it, you are the only one that doesn't see this, The Spurs were up 4, I think, when Bonner came in and Green became an istant all-star, the momentum turned in Boston's favor, Matt did nothing of consequence to counter this. It is Pop's fault for leaving him in there. When he is making 3's, he is an good asset for the team, but he hasn't since the ASB, and that has been his career MO.

    He wasn't very effective at all on the glass at all, just 2 "O" boards, the same amount has Neal. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt earlier in the season, but he is Horry totaly opposite, Horry played like an All-Star down the stretch, Bonner should be on the bench down the strecth.

    You only look at the stats, this is not fantasy basketball.

    Your BBIQ is ZERO.

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    12-50 threes since Miami, is that good you idiot? What else does he do if he is not hitting a three? NOTHING! Thats another stat for you bro! Thats horrible.
    Stats....who needs them.

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    12-50 threes since Miami, is that good you idiot? What else does he do if he is not hitting a three? NOTHING! Thats another stat for you bro! Thats horrible.
    Why does this surprise you? Did you expect him to continue to shoot 50% from 3?

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    I can't help but see mistakes, that is all he doing these days, Tiago out scored him in under the 4 minutes he was on the floor. Matt bricked every shot tonight, all were uncontested, and they weren't even close

    Yes, Green scored at will, even the national announcers saw it, Stevie Wonder could see it, you are the only one that doesn't see this, The Spurs were up 4, I think, when Bonner came in and Green became an istant all-star, the momentum turned in Boston's favor, Matt did nothing of consequence to counter this. It is Pop's fault for leaving him in there. When he is making 3's, he is an good asset for the team, but he hasn't since the ASB, and that has been his career MO.

    He wasn't very effective at all on the glass at all, just 2 "O" boards, the same amount has Neal. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt earlier in the season, but he is Horry totaly opposite, Horry played like an All-Star down the stretch, Bonner should be on the bench down the strecth.

    You only look at the stats, this is not fantasy basketball.

    Your BBIQ is ZERO.
    Even the ESPN announcers during the game commented how Bonner was getting O rebounds and all around being a pest on the glass. You just totally discount this and even say he was effective, then randomly act like I'm comparing him to Horry... not sure where this came from.

    What I'm trying to prove is that Bonner doesn't have to be draining threes for him to be ineffective. He can still be an effective piece when he's not hitting threes. I have backed this up with stats.

    Funny how people say Bonner gets murdered by Green, how much of a liability Bonner was, yet he was the only Spur who posted a positive +/- against Boston. Guess he just got owned though, right?

    Don't know where you thought you say me say Bonner>Tiago either. Before Tim got injured, I was very down on Splitter, but Tiago has been playing great since then and he should, without a doubt, be the first big off the bench and Bonner should be the 4th big playing 15-20 minutes.

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    smh

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    lol wtf, I responded to all your posts that weren't stupid jokes.
    None of my responses were stupid jokes.

    And you basically just admitted that a LINEUP with Bonner in it is good, which has been my point all along. He's a perfect role player for this team. I've never made him out to be a great individual player. I laugh at him just as much as the next guy when he dribbles.
    Never admitted such a thing. So let's tack English lessons to actually watching the games.

    By the way, Bonner plays alongside Blair and Duncan. Not sure what your point is?
    My point is that any lineup that includes Duncan will tilt the +/- on the defensive side, seeing he's far and out our best defender. That's why +/- is a horrible stat to measure individual performances.
    We can look at a lot of actual individual advanced stats that point out Matty to be garbage. PER, DWS, etc. I can probably bring 2 advanced stats that show Matty to be a below average player for every 1 advanced stat that shows otherwise.

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    To be honest, I don't give a , because it doesn't matter.

    Here's your answer anyway:

    Without Bonner this season: 16 games, 13-3

    But since we're using small sample sizes, I'll give you another one:

    After Bonner returned from his first injury this season, we were 19-2 in our next 21 games.

    I mean seriously, if you wanna use small, meaningless sample sizes I can come up with alot more that prove my point than you can.
    So, with or without him the Spurs were cruising... thanks for making the point for us...

    And lol @ small sample size. 37 games is almost half the season.

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    None of my responses were stupid jokes.



    Never admitted such a thing. So let's tack English lessons to actually watching the games.



    My point is that any lineup that includes Duncan will tilt the +/- on the defensive side, seeing he's far and out our best defender. That's why +/- is a horrible stat to measure individual performances.
    We can look at a lot of actual individual advanced stats that point out Matty to be garbage. PER, DWS, etc. I can probably bring 2 advanced stats that show Matty to be a below average player for every 1 advanced stat that shows otherwise.
    Well I posted 5 different advanced stats for Bonner in my last thread, so let's see those 10 advanced stats you've got up your sleeve.

    I'll go back and point out the post we're referring to just to prove it was filled with jokes instead of any actual facts...

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