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    Cogito Ergo Sum LnGrrrR's Avatar
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    Why would I miss Bush? He would have done the same stupid thing that Obama is doing.

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    You think the average person out on the street even knows this? Or you think it will factor in months from now much less years from now?

    I think its a coincidence because I don't think this helps him. The only people who decide their vote on items like this are people who are already pissed at him because of Libya etc etc.
    Of course. How long does it take from announcing it's been approved to actually having a trial and conviction? 18 months? 2 years? Nothing like a good old "tough on terror" murder conviction when you are in a tough re-election race.

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    Of course. How long does it take from announcing it's been approved to actually having a trial and conviction? 18 months? 2 years? Nothing like a good old "tough on terror" murder conviction when you are in a tough re-election race.
    You're really really reaching that they're using an issue extremely low on the totem pole in a way that is impossible to orchestrate.

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    Nobody misses that dumb piece of except for racist incest practicing Tea Baggers.

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    If you go by the polls, yes. They were pretty overwhelming against civil trials in the US.
    And why would "polls" be against trying terrorists in OUR courts, with OUR laws? Are people scared the hadjis will come out of the shadows w/ an even bigger bone to pick?

    It's also prolly less expensive to put them before a military court. We do have a deficit to think about!

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    jack was for polls before he was against them..today he likes them..tomorrow he doesn't..

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    jack was for polls before he was against them..today he likes them..tomorrow he doesn't..
    You were a re ed bag last year, yesterday, today and will be tomorrow. You have zero clue what you talk about. Lets review how you came to this conclusion.

    Most Americans didnot want the health care bill. You, like the re ed bag you are used some gayass left wing talking points that barry should not base his decision on DAILY polls when people were discussing health care. I used polls that covered months and now years, elections in Virginia, New Jersey, the special election in Massachutes among a few things back then and of course the 2010 beat down the repugs laid on barry and the dems to show you most americans didn't want that health care bill. You ignored all the facts and stuck to "So, do you think Barry should make his DAILY decisions on polls?" You re ed bag.

    I can't stop and correct you everyday that you talk about me which is alot, so I don't. I believe in polls if done right. Pretty simple for normal common sense folks but for re ed bags like yourself.............not so much.

    By the way. You got some sort of single white female thing going on with Chump here. It's creepy. Stop acting like him. That's his thing.

    Barry finally listened and gitmo is open and ready for the 9/11 trials.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    You were a re ed bag last year, yesterday, today and will be tomorrow. You have zero clue what you talk about. Lets review how you came to this conclusion.

    Most Americans didnot want the health care bill. You, like the re ed bag you are used some gayass left wing talking points that barry should not base his decision on DAILY polls when people were discussing health care. I used polls that covered months and now years, elections in Virginia, New Jersey, the special election in Massachutes among a few things back then and of course the 2010 beat down the repugs laid on barry and the dems to show you most americans didn't want that health care bill. You ignored all the facts and stuck to "So, do you think Barry should make his DAILY decisions on polls?" You re ed bag.

    I can't stop and correct you everyday that you talk about me which is alot, so I don't. I believe in polls if done right. Pretty simple for normal common sense folks but for re ed bags like yourself.............not so much.

    By the way. You got some sort of single white female thing going on with Chump here. It's creepy. Stop acting like him. That's his thing.

    Barry finally listened and gitmo is open and ready for the 9/11 trials.
    look dumabss it's very simple.. it's called logic.. you opened your stupid mouth and posted on this baord that most Americans (based on polling data) were against the healthcare Bill... you based your opinion on the same polls..


    Now you still complain about Obama even when polls (yes the one's you bashed him with) are in his favor.. so which is it moron?


    You use polls when it's convenient and ignore them when they are not... which is the definition of a hypocrite..

    you can try and caveat your way out of this but your logic is flawed which ,by now, is well known on this board..

    ignored the facts? Polls are facts now? Jesus what's next...


    gayass talking points? You stupid no president should base any decision on polling data regardless of the issue.. but regarding the healthcare Bill.. gay jack wants obama to listen to the polls..
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    look dumabss it's very simple.. it's called logic.. you opened your stupid mouth and posted on this baord that most Americans (based on polling data) were against the healthcare Bill... you based your opinion on the same polls..


    Now you still complain about Obama even when polls (yes the one's you bashed him with) are in his favor.. so which is it moron?


    You use polls when it's convenient and ignore them when they are not... which is the definition of a hypocrite..

    you can try and caveat your way out of this but your logic is flawed which ,by now, is well known on this board..

    ignored the facts? Polls are facts now? Jesus what's next...


    gayass talking points? You stupid no president should base any decision on polling data regardless of the issue.. but regarding the healthcare Bill.. gay jack wants obama to listen to the polls..
    LOL@your logic. You're a idiot. Prove me one time, just one little time fantasy boy that I bashed barry based on a poll in his favor. Bet you can't. There is so much stupidity you spewed here I can't continue this. Just give me one little tiny example.

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    Yoni you're so critical on left-wing politicians/policies, but do you really believe the right wing is that much better? They're all the same. Same walk, different talk.

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    Holder was very clear that the Legislative branch (Repugs) put so many (uncons utional) restrictions on the Exec branch's prerogative to prosecute in any trial in criminal court that it was impossibly expensive and take many more years.

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    Holder was very clear that the Legislative branch (Repugs) put so many (uncons utional) restrictions on the Exec branch's prerogative to prosecute in any trial in criminal court that it was impossibly expensive and take many more years.
    He forgot to mention they, congress, repugs and demo s passed these restrictions you speak of. He also forgot to mention as you have that congress was under demo s control.

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    So Democrats were also cowards along with Republicans and you, WC.

    Understood.

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    Say what you want about how Congress forced Obama's hand today by making it all but impossible to try the 9/11 conspirators in regular Article III courts.* The only lesson learned is that Obama's hand can be forced. That there is no principle he can't be bullied into abandoning. In the future, when seeking to pass laws that treat different people differently for purely political reasons, Congress need only fear-monger and fabricate to get the president to cave. Nobody claims that this was a legal decision. It was a political triumph or loss, depending on your viewpoint. The rule of law is an afterthought, either way.


    It may not matter to you today that the U.S. government has invented a new class of criminals fit for a new class of trials. It may bother you a lot more when special rules are created for unions, or corporations, or the poor, or the children of illegal immigrants, or eco-terrorists. Today's capitulation will just embolden Congress to do all that and more.


    A year ago, Holder told the New Yorker's Jane Mayer that the trial of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed would serve as "the defining event of my time as attorney general." Sadly, he's probably right. He will be remembered for having sacrificed what he knew to be right for some payoff to be named later. We will, all of us, in the long run bear the costs of that choice.
    http://www.slate.com/id/2290359/

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    KSM admitted he did it. The dog and pony show the Obongos wanted to put on was exactly that plus it would cost us hundred of millions of dollars. The military will see that the terrorist are punished for all the crimes they committed against our citizens. Barry did good. 10 years of this nonsense but we now can see the finish line in the not to far distance.

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    So that's your only objection to a federal court trial?

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    The ends justify the means

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    KSM admitted he did it. The dog and pony show the Obongos wanted to put on was exactly that plus it would cost us hundred of millions of dollars. The military will see that the terrorist are punished for all the crimes they committed against our citizens. Barry did good. 10 years of this nonsense but we now can see the finish line in the not to far distance.

    so putting someone on trial is a dog and pony excercise... got it dummy.

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    so putting someone on trial is a dog and pony excercise... got it dummy.
    I'm still waiting for your tiny little example, dummy.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I'm still waiting for your tiny little example, dummy.

    I'm still waiting on the 'tons' of polls that show the American people support Walker..

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    I'm still waiting on the 'tons' of polls that show the American people support Walker..
    I gave you one and told you about this new thing called "google."

    What did you do? *crickets*

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I gave you one and told you about this new thing called "google."

    What did you do? *crickets*
    don't worry jackie..you will criticise obama soon and I will bring out the polls that support him on the same issue just to prove what an idiot you are.. it is a guarantee that you will do it.. it's not a mattr of if rather it's just a matter of when. My guess is it will be by the end of thw eek..

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    Still trying to figure out what the legal objection to this trial is.

    As far as I can tell, it just a bunch of people like the posters here espousing emotional arguments like so many stereotypical women.

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    So u admit you are full of . Thanks.

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    Still trying to figure out what the legal objection to this trial is.

    As far as I can tell, it just a bunch of people like the posters here espousing emotional arguments like so many stereotypical women.
    They are going on trial. You're just whining now.

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