Have you ever seen a zebra commit a lane violation?

**koriwhat** · 04-04-2011

Crying about officiating is immature and unoriginal.

if you take the blinders off you might realize the real subject at hand... sure, OP is ing about the refs but he's also bringing up the fact that a ref isn't being professional and doing his job by the book.

stop running this in circles and trying to make this thread into something it's not.

**GSH** · 04-04-2011

Originally Posted by koriwhat

if you take the blinders off you might realize the real subject at hand... sure, OP is ing about the refs but he's also bringing up the fact that a ref isn't being professional and doing his job by the book.

stop running this in circles and trying to make this thread into something it's not.

Exactly. Like the other night when they allowed that not-quite-buzzer-beating shot by LeBron. That had absolutely NOTHING to do with the Spurs. Even the league office had to come out the next day and say that the officials were wrong.

LeBron is incredibly good. (As is Kobe. I used to take on this board all the time for being too complimentary about Kobe.) The shot was incredible, and exciting. But it was too late. The problem came when the refs went looking for excuses to count it, when they would have just waved it off for a lesser player.

It's not a conspiracy - I've said that lots of times before. But it is bias. And my observation was that I have seen a lot more really, really inexplicable calls this season, as compared to others.

Here's a challenge, Deadly. If you EVER see another ref walking around in the paint, right in front of a player shooting a free throw... come back and show me, and I'll say I was wrong. Just one. Until then, have another beer, and relax.

Deadly Dynasty on a typical Sunday night.

**koriwhat** · 04-04-2011

how about the occasional jump-ball's this season because the refs have no idea what to call and go straight to that because of their incompetence... in all my yrs of watching bball, i don't think i have ever seen refs go to a jump-ball because they had no clue how to call the play that just happened.

's ridiculous this season and has been for a while now.

**FromWayDowntown** · 04-04-2011

Originally Posted by Solid D

Yeah, Tony Brown walked out there as he was saying something to fellow official Leon Wood. It was almost like the refs weren't paying any attention to what was going on.

I don't think that was the reason Gallinari missed. He only made 5 of 11 FTs on the afternoon. If anything, it was Ron Artest saying something to Gallinari. Danilo looked back at Ron and then quickly shot his FT. It was a wierd play, no doubt, but I don't think it was Tony Brown that broke his concentration.

I noticed exactly the same thing and thought it was odd but innocuous.

Garretson's T on Karl was also odd to me. I know he told "Lakers" Breen that Georgie had been previously warned, but calling that from across the floor after a close play seemed fairly petty.

**GSH** · 04-04-2011

Originally Posted by koriwhat

how about the occasional jump-ball's this season because the refs have no idea what to call and go straight to that because of their incompetence... in all my yrs of watching bball, i don't think i have ever seen refs go to a jump-ball because they had no clue how to call the play that just happened.

's ridiculous this season and has been for a while now.

Oh, yeah - the jump balls.

I saw someone (OKC maybe?) just get raped by one of those a while back. They got a steal, and were off on an uncontested fast break, when one of the refs blew a whistle. They all huddled, and I never understood what was supposed to have happened. But the next thing you know they were tossing up a jump ball. The other team got it and knocked down a 3-pointer. It was one of the nastiest 5-point swings I've ever seen, and it cost them the game. I thought, "What the ... you know who had the ball, even if it was an inadvertent whistle. Just give it to them at mid-court or something. You don't make them fight for a possession they already had."

I added the bit about bias, and I stand by it. I understand that everyone may not agree.

Originally Posted by FromWayDowntown

I noticed exactly the same thing and thought it was odd but innocuous.

If I could think of a single example of it happening before, I would probably have felt the same way. Just one. But as far as I can tell, it just isn't done. I think it said something about the ref and his state of mind. Maybe just incompetence, but I can't believe he forgot where he was standing.

**dbestpro** · 04-04-2011

It's the game itself. The game has evolved as the players have evolved but the refs are most of the time not able to call a decent game. There is a foul on every play and as a result the game is more controlled by the refs than any other sport.

The solution is to deregulate the game and allow for more physical play. I would start first by making it a non call when the shooter jumps into the defensive player and allowing for two handed checks.

It would be worth it just to watch some of the prima donnas cry.

**Ed Helicopter Jones** · 04-04-2011

Since it was a Lakers game I didn't see the play. However, I heard that LA lost, so the refs were obviously calling a good, honest game yesterday.

**DMC** · 04-04-2011

Originally Posted by baseline bum

'Eh, that wasn't . If you want to see a real player shoot a technical FT, fast forward to the 3:00 mark below.

I love how the cheerleaders still did their show at the timeout... lol the show must go on!

**DMC** · 04-04-2011

Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones

Since it was a Lakers game I didn't see the play. However, I heard that LA lost, so the refs were obviously calling a good, honest game yesterday.

Not really, just that Denver kicked that ass.

**Man In Black** · 04-04-2011

Originally Posted by DeadlyDynasty

Fans who habitually complain about the officials are mentally weak. It's a fact.

Like 90% of most LAL boards including that "ground" one?

**DMC** · 04-04-2011

Originally Posted by koriwhat

how about the occasional jump-ball's this season because the refs have no idea what to call and go straight to that because of their incompetence... in all my yrs of watching bball, i don't think i have ever seen refs go to a jump-ball because they had no clue how to call the play that just happened.

's ridiculous this season and has been for a while now.

I feel the same way about double technical fouls. It seems like a way for the refs to just get control of the game without pissing off either team too much, instead of punishing the player who actually committed the foul.