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sony!on a side not though, i might have a 360 fall into my lap this week so what up big dogs on 2k!!?
http://ps3.gamespy.com/articles/115/1159288p1.html
Anonymous Declares War on Sony
Gulp! That's the collective reaction Sony likely had this morning after receiving a slap to the face from the hacker activist group famous for taking on the Church of Scientology, Anonymous. For its recent actions against PlayStation 3 hackers, including George "Geohot" Hotz, Anonymous has declared war on Sony.
Sony has been hunting anyone and everyone associated with exploiting the PlayStation 3's cracked security since Hotz released the console's root key to the masses back in January. And in the eyes of Anonymous, the company has gone too far.
"Your recent legal actions against fellow Internet citizens, GeoHot and Graf_Chokolo, have been deemed an unforgivable offense against free speech and Internet freedom, primary sources of free lulz (and you know how we feel about lulz)," Anonymous stated through a press release on its AnonNews website.
"Now you will experience the wrath of Anonymous. You saw a hornets nest and stuck your penises in it. You must face the consequences of your actions, Anonymous style."
The group went on to inform Sony it has "only been renting" its web domains, just as PS3 owners have, based on Sony's actions, evidently only been renting the consoles they purchased. As such, Anonymous said it will now begin attacking Sony's private property.
sony!on a side not though, i might have a 360 fall into my lap this week so what up big dogs on 2k!!?
exciting stuff
That will probably leave an indelible mark.......
lol please keep us updated on what happens... I would love to know
Why doesn't Sony just do what Microsoft does and hire the hackers for loads of money? And besides, what's the whole point of hacking and ing with people's things. I never got it. Is your life so unfulfilled that you have to with everyone else just to make yourself feel important?
They do it for us you ..
The hackers they hired must suck microsoft lost 1.4 million on ms codes last week due to hackers.
Anonymous, it seems are doing this to show solidarity to this geohot guy. This geohot guy is being targeted by sony for getting his hardware to do what he wanted (and thereby making it more valueable), then sharing his work with others.
It would be like Centex homes coming after you for retiling your bathroom
They do it for themselves and pretend it's for the better of the people.
If it was done for us, there wouldn't be viruses and trojans and all sorts of malware infesting computers and shutting them down. We wouldn't have to worry about protecting our iden ies and losing money from our bank accounts. We wouldn't need ridiculous amounts of internet security just to make sure our investments (our PCs) stay clean and operable.
The fact that you believe such utter bull says a lot about yourself.
If I recall correctly, he was modifying the software, which should be protected by copyright laws, although I don't claim to be a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination and could be totally wrong. I think it could lead to software piracy (games and whatnot) which is illegal.
Again, I'd have to go back and read the article outlining what his work actually did, but I seem to remember that that's what that was all about.
Having said that, Apple, Google, Motorola and Sony are all doing this sort of thing with their devices, so is this guy going to attack them all. By doing so, he'd basically be declaring war on the consumer as his attacks will surely be passed down to the user either with an interruption of service or by rendering the devices inoperable in some capacity.
But whatever, I mean, he's trying to protect us, right?
You might think so but it's all about the whole piracy war.. while it does help their ego, I highly doubt they risk that much just so they can say they can do it...
Getting praised for it might be another reason they do it.. it's how they get "famous"...
You show your ignorance by naming "Anonymous" as one person as well as thinking all hackers are "out to get you".
The whole point, regardless of what a copyright might have you believe, is that when you purchase a piece of property, its yours to do with what you will. It's not rented or leased. It's YOURS.
This is akin to any motor vehicle company going after you for adding performance parts to the car you bought.
As for services being interupted for consumers, thats on Sony's head and anyone not addicted to Everquest and DC universe, which both suck ass I might add, can see how Sony has brought this on themselves.
Unfortunately, in the digital domain, and thanks to laws like the DMCA that's not really the case. You're granted a 'license' to use the software. You're also agreeing to use the hardware with said software or you have to return it.
People don't read the fine print, but there's a lot of bull there. It's a really ed up system we're living in these days.
Nathan,
Contrary to what the media and movies would have you believe, hackers are not the ones creating viruses and malware. They are not out for money or to steal your iden y. Hackers hack to learn. They are more interested in the workings of a computer and the challenge of its security.
The few hundred dollars in your account, or that e-mail that proves you cheated on your wife, or that porn folder you have collected video's in for a decade doesnt matter to them.
The people you are refering to about creating viruses and malware are exactly the type of people Anonymous are against.... As well as those companies like Sony who are complete Zealots who will do anything to make sure they control your dollar.
Except there are also laws that protect the consumer as well.
Thats why this is becoming such a big deal.
There's all sorts... there's the greedy s, there's the guys that are genuinely interested in learning by looking under the hood. There's the ones that are in it for the 'fame'. There are the flat out delinquents. There's the truly brilliant and the coattailers.
Sometimes they start one way, and end up being something else. Some are capable of crossing the fence (going from black to white hat), some are not.
We could really have a 10+ page thread on this topic. It's a varied world out there.
EDIT: This was RE: Hackers
Last edited by ElNono; 04-05-2011 at 12:29 AM.
Such as? A lot of consumer laws are getting obliterated with superimposed loopholes. I didn't bring the DMCA lightly.
Consumers were allowed to make personal copies. By encrypting the originals, that right was lost under the DMCA, which criminalizes cir venting the encryption, and has no exceptions for personal copies.
Contract law has a very long precedent. When you willfully agree to waive certain rights, there's normally very small recourse. Half the people that buy things like the PS3, don't even know what they're agreeing to. And that's the problem.
What a bunch of spoiled brats. Seriously.
agreed.
Still, the heart of this issue is that Sony is trying to prevent people from doing what they want with property that they rightfully own.
What those people do with the knowledge is an entirely different manner.
For instance, there are people building supercomputers based off of PS3's, which is not what they where intended for, but I dont see Sony going after them....
As much as I dont like Microsoft, they did it right... just disable those systems so they no longer can access PSN and be done with it. Same as with a car... if you modify it, you void the warranty. You dont go to jail for it.
The fact you posted this complete and utter load of crap shows just how little you know. Jesus Christ this is one of the worst posts in this forum I've ever run across.
I haven't read the rest of the thread, but I can only hope the forum has on you as much as you deserve for this bull .
No such thing as 'property that they rightfully own'. I doubt you've read the Sony's TOS included with the console?
Nobody can stop you from doing whatever you want in the privacy of your home for personal use. Distributing that information is more complicated though.
I agree that the onus is on Sony to prove that the guy hacked the console with the intent to bypass rights management.
You don't know that they didn't get a license from Sony for doing that though. I mean, Sony did include Other OS exceptions for the fat PS3, until they removed the option with a later software update.
Microsoft actively pursues hackers, and has had the FBI investigate and prosecute: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...pen-dismissed/
Different companies have different approaches though. Some are willing to work with who they might consider brilliant instead of suing them if they feel they'll reap more rewards that way.
Nah. We're pretty used to it from him and Viva 'round these parts.
Well, that sucks,I can't sign in now.
PSN has been down all day. Coincidence?
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