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Don't you love the way bureaucracies deal with stupid rules rather than trying to do things right.
Another reason to slash the size of government.
On a serious note, you might want to spend $100 and consult with a lawyer. He might be able to tell you what options are at your disposal. From having a court order certifying your childs as citizens, to writing a letter to such and such.
Don't you love the way bureaucracies deal with stupid rules rather than trying to do things right.
Another reason to slash the size of government.
This could easily be solved by shooting immigrants at the border. If they survive, they're definitely americans...
Wild Cobra showing his face in here is ironic as . In any event, please contact someone higher up at State. I bet that gets it solved. I really do.
Once we all start carrying national ID, officials can check residency/legal status at discretion. No more fumbling around for SS cards and birth certificates.
Effing sucks, 101A. They better effing straighten it out.
Yes.
Comrade.
Was gone for 8 minutes this morning - had to run my wife up to lab.
The State Department called during that window.
A good sign that they called so quickly, OR a bad sign that they KNEW I was out of pocket for just a moment, and timed it so perfectly (just throwing it out there for the conspiracy guys to chew on).
They had their spy satellites on you huh?
You might be experiencing the VRWC first hand...
State Dept. called back.
SD: "Sir, could you send us your Resident Alien Card?"
"No, I don't have one."
"Are you in this country illegally?"
"I'm not sure anymore."
"How long have you lived here?"
"My entire life."
"And when did your parents arrive."
"1943, they came in through the port of Santa Rosa in Downtown San Antonio on the day they were born."
.....pause - no doubt Yankee bureaucrat is trying to figure out why a Mexican would arrive on a boat - maybe he's Cuban! (btw, I am lilly-white gringo, my only accent is a slight Texas drawl)......
Me: "THEY WERE BORN HERE, TOO!"
"Wait a minute, are you a citizen?"
"Yes - you know my SSN is right there on my child's application."
"I'm going to take this to a SPECIALIST, I'll call you back."
"Thank you."
101A,
After this gets resolved (because it is truly too stupid NOT to get resolved eventually), I hope that you will send a full description of what you went through (including transcripts of phone conversations if you have them) to someplace like CNN or the NY Times or some kind of national media.
The only way to stop this from happening to more people (and if it is happening to you it must be happening to others) is to shine such an enormous light on it that the bureaucrats can no longer stand the heat of not fixing the process.
Do it for your fellow Americans. Think of all the taxpayer dollars being wasted on this nonsense, to say nothing of your own lost productivity. At least contact one of the members of Congress and let them use it as a campaign issue about avoiding government waste.
I'm serious man...this is too stupid for words.
Oh, and when you do ent all of this, get the names of the people you have spoken with straight...it not only adds credibility, but it hopefully will get idiots who are doing this sort of thing off the taxpayers payroll.
State Dept (Sheri for posterity) called back.
I am sending a slew of school, medical and insurance records to her (via fax) to prove my children's citizenship.
If this "works", it truly indicates the idiocy of bureaucracy. The do ents I am sending would be a piece of cake to create (report cards, shot records, etc....) much easier than getting the certified birth certificate I submitted already. This is jumping through hoops for the sake of jumping through hoops; no security has been added - files have simply gotten stuffed (I sent 28 pages of do entation).
As for the media, yes I will contact at least some newspapers; but going through this, I, of course Googled it. Mine is not a unique situation.
Just search, "Born at Home denied passport".
You will astounded, and sickened.
And, again, my kids are white children of two US citizens - this should resolve itself easily. If they were hispanic, born on US soil, at home, to at least one immigrant - that child is just as much a citizen as you, me or my children; good ing luck proving it.
God help us.
I'm glad your situation is resolving itself. You're right about the jumping hoops part. Its pretty much the act the man behind the curtain puts on for the idiots in this country. No really, we're doing something. I mean look how inconvenienced you are!
let me guess, you look mexican.
Not even a little, though as I mentioned earlier, my last name begins "Vill.."
is your last name villain? that could explain this.
Update:
Have not heard back from State, BUT:
Yesterday I had gotten letters for my two youngest children. We applied for their passports on a Monday, then for my older boy's on the following Thursday. I fully expected to get HIS letter today or tomorrow.
Got his passport today (yes, he was also born at home).
They're doing a great job over there.
Ridiculous. Lack of training.
Told you that it would be some asinine process where you'd have to send a ton of do ents.
Although requesting more do ents IS a form of security. By introducing more evidence, you are proving thief citizenship through multiple chains. If you were trying to forge their iden y, then you would have to do much more work, and it would be very hard to create all those do ents and get away with it without significant research.
Oh and the scenario you presented, about the half-Hispanic kid? That's my kid.*gulp*..
It IS a form of security... Just a stupid one. If you are going to forge something, you have to be really dedicated. Of course, it screws over lots of regular citizens too.
I promise you that you don't need to be dedicated. You need a scanner and a printer. I promise you some of those forms 101 mentioned are nothing more than printed out do ents with no seal, watermarks, or other identifying features.
Its about as much security as leaving a car window down but saying its OK because you locked the door.
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