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    When I said he's won four I meant he's won four during the DRob/Duncan era and later with prime Duncan.
    His four les shouldn't give him a pass to screw things up now. He's playing Bonner and Blair together for ing sakes. Are you too stupid to see that bull lineup can't and won't work?
    The Spurs have the parts to have a good team. Good enough for a championship run. Problem is Pop won't let that happen because for some reason he thinks he is the second coming of Donnie basketball with his visionary bull line ups. But please go ahead and keep thinking this combo will work great in the playoffs while a serviceable 7 footer rots at the end of the bench. Pop is failing the team.
    he's also wasting Timmy's and Dice's last years

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    the part that i don't understand though is when the has Splitter indicated that he's a detriment to the offense?
    Oh, I would say the airballs from the FT line late in the game are all good signs. Pop loves to intentionally foul ty FT shooters late in games. Surely someone would do that to us with Splitter. The dude cannot hit the ing rim, and he's no Shaq in the paint. I like him, but he's not all that yet.
    all signs point to him being better both offensively and defensively than Bonner and Blair at this point.
    Sure, as long as they improvise plays for him.
    it's not like playing him suddenly makes this team a ty offensive team. they don't lose a step when he plays. there's no trade-off of offense for defense.
    Pop doesn't play people because it doesn't hurt, he plays them because he thinks it helps. Tiago doesn't guard up top very well, and he's a foul magnet.

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    When I said he's won four I meant he's won four during the DRob/Duncan era and later with prime Duncan.
    I am sure you knew that DRob wasn't involved in 2 of those, but you said he won 4 with both players. You didn't mention a era. The "era" thing is bull anyhow. The Bulls didn't keep winning just because they were in the Jordan, Pippen era once Jordan left the 1st time.
    His four les shouldn't give him a pass to screw things up now. He's playing Bonner and Blair together for ing sakes. Are you too stupid to see that bull lineup can't and won't work?
    I feel the pain too. However part of me understands that I felt the same way about Manu getting minutes when he used to throw the ball to people in the 15th row.
    The Spurs have the parts to have a good team. Good enough for a championship run.
    No they don't. Saying it ad nauseum doesn't make it true. No one in the league would look at the Spurs team and say they have the "players" to win it all. They say they have the "team" to win. They credit Pop and the Spurs organization with that. They had 2 players in the ASG, and one was a replacement for an injured player. The Celtics have the players to win it all. The Lakers have the players to win it all. The Heat have the players to win it all, and the Knicks have the players to win it all. The Spurs only have a team and an organization that can win if everything fall in their laps at the right time. Otherwise they are a middle of the playoff pack team.
    Problem is Pop won't let that happen because for some reason he thinks he is the second coming of Donnie basketball with his visionary bull line ups. But please go ahead and keep thinking this combo will work great in the playoffs while a serviceable 7 footer rots at the end of the bench. Pop is failing the team.
    I don't think they will work great in the playoffs. I don't think any combo would work that great. We don't have a championship caliber team. It is what it is, but Pop has to work with what he has.

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    Threads like "when will Popovich realize the obvious?" boggle my mind. Do some of you really know you think you know better than Gregg freakin' Popovich? Get out of town. I understand your frustration with Bonner is growing, but there must be a reason as to why Popovich is sticking with him and not playing Tiago as much.

    With that being said, I have to say that I don't know what Pop's reason is ... it puzzles me lol.

    But Pop is the coach and he's won four les and whatever else you want to add out of his resume. So I'll stick with his seemingly-delirious game plan.

    Rant over.
    Until Pop tells us a reason, we're going with the obvious answer, Pop's a ing dumbass hard headed .

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    Until Pop tells us a reason, we're going with the obvious answer, Pop's a ing dumbass hard headed .
    That ring you have as your avatar pic was won by Pop. You could just use the pre-Pop ring... wait.... nm.

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    That ring you have as your avatar pic was won by Pop. You could just use the pre-Pop ring... wait.... nm.

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    I am sure you knew that DRob wasn't involved in 2 of those, but you said he won 4 with both players. You didn't mention a era. The "era" thing is bull anyhow. The Bulls didn't keep winning just because they were in the Jordan, Pippen era once Jordan left the 1st time.

    I feel the pain too. However part of me understands that I felt the same way about Manu getting minutes when he used to throw the ball to people in the 15th row.

    No they don't. Saying it ad nauseum doesn't make it true. No one in the league would look at the Spurs team and say they have the "players" to win it all. They say they have the "team" to win. They credit Pop and the Spurs organization with that. They had 2 players in the ASG, and one was a replacement for an injured player. The Celtics have the players to win it all. The Lakers have the players to win it all. The Heat have the players to win it all, and the Knicks have the players to win it all. The Spurs only have a team and an organization that can win if everything fall in their laps at the right time. Otherwise they are a middle of the playoff pack team.

    I don't think they will work great in the playoffs. I don't think any combo would work that great. We don't have a championship caliber team. It is what it is, but Pop has to work with what he has.
    You say Pop has to work with what he has and yet you can't see that he is not completely utilizing all the tools at his disposal?

    I don't understand your argument. One minute you're claiming Pop to be a great coach that has led the Spurs to the best regular season record the next minute you're saying the Spurs aren't good enough to win a le with that same coach.

    I don't know if the Spurs are as great as all the teams you mentioned, but I would never underestimate a team with Duncan, Manu, and Tony. That in itself is good enough to label this team championship caliber.

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    You say Pop has to work with what he has and yet you can't see that he is not completely utilizing all the tools at his disposal?
    It's easy to imagine benched players doing better than those on the floor (not hard at all in some instances), but Pop sees these guys every day in shoot around and I trust that, if playing Tiago would mean Spurs win, Pop would play Tiago. Pop also trusts his assistant coaches, confers with others and with the team (and probably with Tiago). I only watch the games.
    I don't understand your argument. One minute you're claiming Pop to be a great coach that has led the Spurs to the best regular season record the next minute you're saying the Spurs aren't good enough to win a le with that same coach.
    He is a great coach, one of the best of all time. Sloan was a great coach but the Jazz weren't good enough to win a le. Unfortunately coaches have to have the pieces to win games, which explains Phil's 11 rings.
    I don't know if the Spurs are as great as all the teams you mentioned, but I would never underestimate a team with Duncan, Manu, and Tony. That in itself is good enough to label this team championship caliber.
    The Spurs are not playing championship caliber ball. If they start doing that suddenly, I will change my mind.

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    The Spurs are not playing championship caliber ball is because the stubborn coach keeps messing up the chemistry and doesn't play the right players

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    He didn't throw his defense ideas out the window. Can you honestly say this current Spurs roster is loaded with defensive talent? Other than Splitter, whose still finding his way, theres not a whole lot of defensive potential on this roster. No Bowens, Drobs, etc.... that I see.
    That's a complete copout. A coach's greatest imprint on his team is on the defense. If the Spurs are playing ty defense, it's Popovich's fault.

    The Bulls are playing awesome defense and starting ing Derrick Rose, Boozer, and Keith Bogans.

    These excuses are getting pathetic. The guy's got two seven footers on his roster and two to three great perimeter defenders. The roster is more than capable of playing outstanding defense.

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    It's easy to imagine benched players doing better than those on the floor (not hard at all in some instances), but Pop sees these guys every day in shoot around and I trust that, if playing Tiago would mean Spurs win, Pop would play Tiago. Pop also trusts his assistant coaches, confers with others and with the team (and probably with Tiago). I only watch the games.
    Lol. Popovich doesn't play Tiago because Tiago doesn't know Popovich's precious system. And get the outta here talking about shoot around. Are you really this ing dense?

    The Spurs are not playing championship caliber ball. If they start doing that suddenly, I will change my mind.
    Popovich is hurting the team. He's more confident in his "system" than in the abilities of his players.

    The guy's ing gone senile. Alvin Gentry of all people schooled his ass. I shudder to think who'll be next. Scott Brooks? George Karl? Pathetic.

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    Best Thread Ever.

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    The Spurs are not playing championship caliber ball is because the stubborn coach keeps messing up the chemistry and doesn't play the right players
    Pop didn't make anyone turn the ball over, miss FTs or shoot ty from 3. He had nothing to do with that.

    They haven't played championship caliber ball all year. They had one game against New Orleans when they made that big comeback late that I thought they played at the top of their game. The rest were 3pt fests and lucky breaks where the other team's best players were sidelined with injuries.

    Championship caliber ball includes defense. We haven't played it all year.

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    Threads like "when will Popovich realize the obvious?" boggle my mind. Do some of you really know you think you know better than Gregg freakin' Popovich? Get out of town. I understand your frustration with Bonner is growing, but there must be a reason as to why Popovich is sticking with him and not playing Tiago as much.

    With that being said, I have to say that I don't know what Pop's reason is ... it puzzles me lol.

    But Pop is the coach and he's won four les and whatever else you want to add out of his resume. So I'll stick with his seemingly-delirious game plan.

    Rant over.
    Ranting! Playing "Arm Chair Quarterback" or in this case "Arm Chair Coach"! It's all for fun! That's what this forum is for, to write what's on your mind. I think a fan will always think they know more about the game than the coach b/c they're watching the game from a different perspective. They're watching the game on tv with instant replay at their disposal.

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    Threads like "when will Popovich realize the obvious?" boggle my mind. Do some of you really know you think you know better than Gregg freakin' Popovich? Get out of town. I understand your frustration with Bonner is growing, but there must be a reason as to why Popovich is sticking with him and not playing Tiago as much.

    With that being said, I have to say that I don't know what Pop's reason is ... it puzzles me lol.

    But Pop is the coach and he's won four les and whatever else you want to add out of his resume. So I'll stick with his seemingly-delirious game plan.

    Rant over.

    This is the same group that thought Roger Mason was the key to a championship if only Pop would play him more...so you gotta take the criticism of Pop for what it's worth.

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    Pop didn't make anyone turn the ball over, miss FTs or shoot ty from 3. He had nothing to do with that.

    They haven't played championship caliber ball all year. They had one game against New Orleans when they made that big comeback late that I thought they played at the top of their game. The rest were 3pt fests and lucky breaks where the other team's best players were sidelined with injuries.

    Championship caliber ball includes defense. We haven't played it all year.
    They haven't played all year because pock marked asshole keeps giving frosty the snowman and the black frodo baggins extended time on the floor. TOGETHER.

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    Shut up I'm Phil Jackson.

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    They haven't played all year because pock marked asshole keeps giving frosty the snowman and the black frodo baggins extended time on the floor. TOGETHER.

    "You play Duncan and McD big minutes during the regular season you lose them for the playoff run. Splitter is in his first season as a Spur after playing the summer with the national team and coming off an injury (where he missed the preseason).

    Someone has to play those minutes. And as I mentioned in some other post, unless Bonner is hitting threes he is pretty useless (we have seen this in previous years),imo. That leaves only Blair who showed us last year that when given minutes he can be valuable by bringing energy and rebounding. So why not play him where he can be most effective?"

    -weebo


    "You start McD at the start of the season and he'll fade down the stretch. And this talk about starting Splitter is complete . It is apparent that Pop doesn't think this guy is ready to start or get any significant playing time" -weebo

    You cannot have your cake and eat it too.

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    Threads like "when will Popovich realize the obvious?" boggle my mind.
    +1

    Pop will never realize the obvious.

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    Some of us just completely overlook the fact that he's a professional
    George Dubya Bush and Obama are also professionals, who held/currently hold the most powerful position on the planet.

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    lol @ Pop falling a victim of his own overachieving.

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    Thinking Bonner over Tiago gives you a better chance at a le is the definition of a deluded spurs fan.

    Ask ANY opponents teams' fans if they prefer Bonner over Splitter and their answers will give you an idea how stupid Pop is...

    Pop has choked for going on four years now...if he does it again this season...what will be the excuse? (4 rings?)
    the part that i don't understand though is when the has Splitter indicated that he's a detriment to the offense? all signs point to him being better both offensively and defensively than Bonner and Blair at this point. it's not like playing him suddenly makes this team a ty offensive team. they don't lose a step when he plays. there's no trade-off of offense for defense.
    Oh, I would say the airballs from the FT line late in the game are all good signs. Pop loves to intentionally foul ty FT shooters late in games. Surely someone would do that to us with Splitter. The dude cannot hit the ing rim, and he's no Shaq in the paint. I like him, but he's not all that yet.
    Sure, as long as they improvise plays for him.

    Pop doesn't play people because it doesn't hurt, he plays them because he thinks it helps. Tiago doesn't guard up top very well, and he's a foul magnet.
    At least one poster watches the games as opposed to living in a fantasy world like mingus, silverblk , and mugen.

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    Smartest thread in a while to be honest. We got some spoiled ass fans.

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