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No. You corrected me, but, my argument is still germane.
The NBA should have their draft eligibility requirements similar to those of the NFL. Three years out of high school to be eligible.
No. You corrected me, but, my argument is still germane.
IMO, it shouldn't be like that because the difference between an NBA body and a high school body isn't that extreme. The NFL needs that rule because a 230 pound defensive end coming out of high school would get tossed around like a rag doll if he went straight to the NFL.
If it were up to me, players should have the option of going to the NBA straight out of high school, or going to college/Euroleague/whatever for at least 3 years. The 1 year thing needs to go though.
That'll never happen in the NBAPERIOD
They'll be extremely fortunate not to lose the 1 year exemption.
A class action rendering boundless damages would not be out of the realm of probability.
Nevertheless, a company that sells widgets has every right to require all of its employees be 1 year removed from high school if it desires.
Agreed. It'd make both the NBA and NCAA a higher quality product as well since players will stick around in colleges or overseas that will develop their game and help weed out a lot of the busts and headcases.
Specious. They can all require that its employees be 25 years removed from high school for that matter.
Cully, I agree with you in the sense that the 1 year rule is stupid and unnecessary for the NBA, I just disagree with the premise that the NCAA wanted it and had a gentleman's deal with the NBA to get it. IMO, it's just one of the stupid things Stern has done (dress code, composite leather basketball) in an attempt to become more like the NFL while serving no purpose. Making players go to college for 1 year doesn't help them develop in the slightest.
I understand the argument for the physicality of the NFL being the reason they need 3 years out of HS, but how many NBA players are ready to go right away? I think the League is worried about having so many inexperienced players out there hurting the sport. I was listening to a Charles Barkley interview the other day and he was talking about how the League sucks now because none of these kids are ready. And it's hard to disagree with him.
There's no way the NBA goes back to letting players go straight from HS. It's rare that any of these kids are ready right away. The Durants, Roses and Lebrons are the exception not the rule. Three years might be a bit much, but 2 years minimum out of HS would be a smart move. It would improve the quality of play in the NBA and the NCAA.
I agree with all of this, just don't ever see it happening.
The NBA talent level is thinning out even though it's becoming more physically gifted and athletic. That's because no one develops in college like they need to. An entire generation of big men (Eddy Curry, Tyson Chandler, Andrew Bynum, etc.) have done nothing in the NBA because they all came in too raw. Even guys like Kobe and KG needed a few years to get it because they weren't initially ready.
It's "Stern" acting as bag man delivering to the NCAA their payoff for harvesting talent for Stern's business concern. 1 year is better than 0 years like it was. And with the 1 year there is always the chance of more years. With 0 years, that's it. Game over. There is no potentional then.
It's not the right, nor the privilege for the NBA, and/or the NCAA to mandate the formation of talent, individulally, or, collectively. That's hideous.
, get in line with GM, Dow Chemical, Circle-K, Wal-Mart, et al and etc just like everyone else.
The 1 year rule has had the reverse effect in some scenarios actually. Guys who would normally stay for 2-3 years go to college for 1 year then say, " it, the NBA mandates I only need 1 year, I'm good." It's a stupid rule that has done jack to develop players, and there have been little to no situations where it caused a 1 and done stud to stay for his sop re year. Guys like Durant, Rose and Oden got their 1 year done and basically said I'm off to the NBA now that that's over with.
But, that's not the NCAA/NBA right to mandate physical development. They're not doing so out of a magnanimous bent. They're not a non profit concern. They're trying to make a dollar & a dime on somebody's talent without paying for it. If that kid is worth $6 million the first year in the NBA. Yet he's giving that same $6 million talent away a year earlier and the NCAA is making the $6 million dollars.
The only thing I think the NCAA would be worried about from a financial standpoint if the NBA went to a two year minimum is the possibility of players taking their talents to Europe.
People can get to hung up on comparisons ... although i agree Gordon is much more athletic ...hornacek wasnt a horrible athlete ESPECIALLY in the mid 80's early 90's (when the league was less athletic as a whole) he was a pretty good all around player before he got to Utah when he was pretty much just a shooter.
Plus keep in mind the kid has had two 20 point games on the Lakers so that clouds Kobe's view a bit ...when i was younger I used to overrate players that were "laker killers" because i watched only Laker games and the national games were scarce. I thought terry teagle, alvin Roberston, Kevin johnson, were all "studs" based on how they torched the Lakeshow when only KJ was truly all-star caliber ...
Hayward is a better athlete, with better handles imho.
& the ruddy complexion is adorable. He looks like I always envisioned DUNCAN.
Alvin Robertson was a beast on defense. Usually led the league back then in steals and, I can't remember what year, but he won DPOY back in the early 80s.
Kinda sad, but also kinda funny, to see you reaching Koriwhat status Culby. Your on your way to reaching your goals old timer.
This is somewhat true, but Hayward has really turned it on over the past few weeks. It's nice to see that we didn't actually waste a lottery pick last year.
You'd better ring, or, woe be to you. I'm comin' after you & your's like the last porkchop on the plate.Kinda sad, but also kinda funny, to see you reaching Koriwhat status Culby. Your on your way to reaching your goals old timer.
I think a kid who is talented enough and obviously physical enough to make into the NBA should be allowed to do so. I see no reason to use the NCAA as a conduit to the NBA. Sure the NBA has the right to require it, but big money that can pay a full tuition several times over should not be bypassed for the sake of presumably higher quality players. Most of the great NBA players today never played NCAA ball. Kevin Durant went one year. So you have Kobe, Durant and James with a combined 1 year of college between them.
With the risk of career ending injuries looming, the kids (often poor) should take what they can get to get them through life.
Exactly.
Agreed, and he is also 1 of only 4 players in NBA history with a quadruple-double. Regardless of his off-court troubles later on, he was most definitely an All-Star caliber.
This.
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