How Many les Would a Prime Kobe and Duncan Have Won Together

[Koolaid_Man]

I say close to 10 only because Shaq had a piss poor work ethic....Duncan would have deferred to Kobe because that's his personality...But Kobe and Duncan would have ruled the league...

I don't think KG and Kobe would have won as much because KG wouldn't have deferred to Kobe in his prime the way Duncan would have...

There you have it Spur fan I said something nice about Timmy...

[Isitjustme?]

For once I agree with you. Duncan would have enough magnanimity to allow Kobe to think he was the better player and alpha dog, and Bryant would have been stupid enough to believe those things were true...

[Koolaid_Man]

For once I agree with you. Duncan would have enough magnanimity to allow Kobe to think he was the better player and alpha dog, and Bryant would have been stupid enough to believe those things were true...

Kobe would have turned Duncan into the real best big man of all time...Duncan would be remembered on the same level as Kobe had he played with Kobe...

For all his scoring and being #6 All-time I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that Kobe is also #50 All-time on the assists list which is incredible since he's branded as a selfish guy that didn't pass...Kobe feeding Duncan would have been fun to watch....

[LkrFan]

TD would have finally gone back to back, tbh.

[Giuseppe]

TD would have finally gone back to back, tbh.

Kickin' & screamin' the entire way.

[Isitjustme?]

TD would have finally gone back to back, tbh.

What percent of your posts contain the lol emoticon? I have it pegged around 96%.

[Koolaid_Man]

TD would have finally gone back to back, tbh.

gotdamit LKrfan...thanks for bringing that out...

[Koolaid_Man]

I totally disagree. Duncan is one of the those self righteous mother ers that would have let all of Kobe's pussy smashing affect his play, much like Rodman's did Robinson's. KG don't give a , and he also was never a franchise player. Look how easy he made the transition to being the third wheel on Boston.

Not to mention, Duncan is already broke down and doesn't have longevity. Imagine if Duncan had someone like Kobe pushing him, he'd already be retired. KG would have been able to withstand the constant pressure Kobe puts on his teammates. Kool, you my brotha, and I know you mean well with this thread, but you must be out of your ing mind if you think Kobe would have put up with Duncan's "on this year, off next year at ude." I just don't see it...imho.

nope I'm straight...here's the way I see it...Duncan was clearly influenced by Reverend Robinson...Duncan's personality could have went either way...when he found out he'd be playing in SA he just resigned himself to that SA lifestyle...I think Duncan is the way he is now because he didn't have someone like Kobe pushing him...but then again it could be that he just wore down because of his body type..I don't know...but I do know that he took the game way more serious than Shaq..and I think Kobe would have appreciated that...

do you remember the early KG years with a ball dominant Marbury...it didn't work out too well...K.G wanted to be the man...He and Kobe had more of an opportunity to clash than Duncan and Kobe...Kobe respects both but I think he and Duncan would have gotten along much better personality wise...and that has nothing to do with basketball...they're probably much more like each other off the court...cept Kobe won't do the tongue ring thing..Remember KG was going into the Boston situation playing with 2 other Allstars so it's easier to make such a transition...

Now KG has proved to be more of an Athlete and more longevity but I think the Kobe / Duncan combo would have won more than Kobe / KG because of the aforementioned. and for the record I think KG wins those les if he's put in SA as well...He just happened to go to Minny....

[Koolaid_Man]

The Kobe/Marbury comparisons are off. Marbury was a loser, Kobe is a winner. Duncan is fragile, trust me. I'm not saying they wouldn't have had success, but KG would have been a better fit. Duncan has been on the only player of the Kobe era that has consistently had championship talent around him, and yet he could never muster up a back2back. This matters... it's what separates Magic from Bird... Hakeem from Robinson. KG would have been the business in LA. I wish we had traded Shaq for him.

Hey Listen I'm on record as saying that KG is the man and that I was hurt LA didn't get him when we had a chance...but I will say this...Kobe and Duncan both benefited from going to organizations with good coaches and Veteran players...Duncan had it easier than Kobe because he went into a situation with good mentors whereas Kobe went into LA, fighting for playing time behind Eddie Jones and Van Excel and in a volatile and unstable situation because of Shaq's jealousy and hatred...

Back in the day Marbury was the ...he was no Kobe but he was real coming outta NYC...I respected his game...

I don't know the specifics of the contract situations but from what a then real young Kool remembers...KG was like one of the first players to receive over a one hundred million dollar contract...He wanted all the money and he suffered with a lack of talent for years because of it...we used to talk about this on the basketball playgrounds all the time...he was in a small Market and he wanted his paper over winning I beleive this...Now had he been in LA a bigger market there would have been more money to give him and go around for better teammates...but KG wanted all the money in that small market so he has to take a lion's share of the blame for not being surrounded by Championship teammates...

But I agree with the back-2-back thing...it means everything...

[TampaDude]

@ people calling Duncan "fragile"

Anyone who saw Duncan in his prime couldn't say that with a straight face.

[dunkman]

Kobe's somewhat overrated. He often settles for 25 points per 30 shots performances, while Bynum/Gasol/Odom get him +10 rpg differences out of Kobe's missed shots and 50 points per 30 shots combined. More than Kobe, that's the reason why many teams lose to the Lakers.

Kobe can be forced to a bad game, Shaq or Duncan were truly dominant players in their primes. While Kobe sometimes shots great, that doesn't happen often in the playoffs or the finals.

[Giuseppe]

Shaq or Duncan were truly dominant players in their primes. While Kobe sometimes shots great, that doesn't happen often in the playoffs or the finals.

Though without Shaq Kobe has rung twice.

And of course Kobe leads Duncan 5-4.

It's all about the rings. There is nothing else.

[TampaDude]

Though without Shaq Kobe has rung twice.

And of course Kobe leads Duncan 5-4.

It's all about the rings. There is nothing else.

Good point. The Basketball HOF should immediately remove everyone who never won a championship, and not allow any ringless players in, regardless of their individual accomplishments in the sport.

[VBM]

It would have been cool to watch Joey Crawford be forced to swallow his pride and give Duncan the benefit of the calls bestowed on all Lakers not named Luke Walton.

[Giuseppe]

Good point. The Basketball HOF should immediately remove everyone who never won a championship, and not allow any ringless players in, regardless of their individual accomplishments in the sport.

I don't do HOF. It's my religion.

[Giuseppe]

I wonder if that movie studio had the foresight to secure those panties after the shoot? I'd like to steep a cup of hot water in the gusset for my morning tea & crumpets.

[TampaDude]

I don't do HOF. It's my religion.

You're a ing re .

[dunkman]

Though without Shaq Kobe has rung twice.

And of course Kobe leads Duncan 5-4.

It's all about the rings. There is nothing else.

Don't worry, Duncan will have 5 too this season. And while Kobe has 5, he wasn't the main reason why the Lakers got those 5 rings.

[Giuseppe]

You're a ing re .

At least I don't sit on a 14-incher like you probably do.

[Giuseppe]

Don't worry, Duncan will have 5 too this season. And while Kobe has 5, he wasn't the main reason why the Lakers got those 5 rings.

Well, when he does we'll talk about it. Until then, he's shinin' Kobe's shoes.

[Koolaid_Man]

Until then, Duncan's shinin' Kobe's shoes.

I may add this to my sig.....

[VBM]

I wonder if that movie studio had the foresight to secure those panties after the shoot? I'd like to steep a cup of hot water in the gusset for my morning tea & crumpets.

[TampaDude]

At least I don't sit on a 14-incher like you probably do.

Dude...how old are you? 11?

[ElNono]

Impossible...

Duncan is too classy to play for the Fakeshow
Kobe is not classy enough to play for the Spurs

[Giuseppe]

Dude...how old are you? 11?

I wish.