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    New engine sends shock waves through auto industry

    Prototype could potentially decrease auto emissions up to 90 percent






    By Nic Halverson


    Discovery Channel


    updated 4/6/2011 5:29:19 PM ET 2011-04-06T21:29:19


    Despite shifting into higher gear within the consumer's green conscience, hybrid vehicles are still tethered to the gas pump via a fuel-thirsty 100-year-old invention: the internal combustion engine.



    However, researchers at Michigan State University have built a prototype gasoline engine that requires no transmission, crankshaft, pistons, valves, fuel compression, cooling systems or fluids. Their so-called Wave Disk Generator could greatly improve the efficiency of gas-electric hybrid automobiles and potentially decrease auto emissions up to 90 percent when compared with conventional combustion engines.


    The engine has a rotor that's equipped with wave-like channels that trap and mix oxygen and fuel as the rotor spins. These central inlets are blocked off, building pressure within the chamber, causing a shock wave that ignites the compressed air and fuel to transmit energy.


    The Wave Disk Generator uses 60 percent of its fuel for propulsion; standard car engines use just 15 percent. As a result, the generator is 3.5 times more fuel efficient than typical combustion engines.


    Researchers estimate the new model could shave almost 1,000 pounds off a car's weight currently taken up by conventional engine systems.


    Last week, the prototype was presented to the energy division of the Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is backing the Michigan State University Engine Research Laboratory with $2.5 million in funding.


    Michigan State's team of engineers hope to have a car-sized 25-kilowatt version of the prototype ready by the end of the year.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42460541...ce-innovation/

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    That sounds bad ass.

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    Why don't you have an open mind?

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    ARPA wasting an exorbitant $2.5M of taxpayer money on this bull ?

    cut taxes, defund ARPA, privatize (Michigan) state universities!!

    -- oilco-financed shill (or any one of a number of ST shills).

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    IP predators are already negotiating with MSU to lock up the patent

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    Ip?

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    IP predators are already negotiating with MSU to lock up the patent
    Link please.

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    I took it as meaning IPO. people wanting a guaranteed price for financing, but that a guess as to his intent.

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    no, Intellectual Property, a huge and obviously not well known financial activity that turns everybody into renters.

    People who buy a patent and then charge outrageous prices for it, like the company that made a patent for a hormone for women at risk of premature delivery that used to cost $20 shot, then asked $1500/shot.

    Or companies at risk from being damaged or destroyed by a revolutionay, paradigm-shaking new product or process so they buy the patent and then bury it.

    Imagine American Petroleum Ins ute, a conspiracy financed by oilcos, or just Chevron, buying and burying Mueller's patent to protect oilco profits. What's to stop them?

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    One thing wrong with this guy's untested prototype design is the scale. His "wave engine' isn't too different from attempts to scale down turbine engines. There has been some real interesting progress there.

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    Why don't you have an open mind?

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    Radical technology is never welcomed by entrenched interests. For a funny look at it, go forward to 2:50.

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    Hey that's the same guy who sold me real estate on the moon..what are the odds...

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    I took it as meaning IPO. people wanting a guaranteed price for financing, but that a guess as to his intent.
    IP = Intellectual Property... he's probably referring to patent protection by shared between college and a third party. Fairly common occurrence.

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    One thing wrong with this guy's untested prototype design is the scale. His "wave engine' isn't too different from attempts to scale down turbine engines. There has been some real interesting progress there.
    Where's your highly-efficient combustion engine/turbine so we can asses you know what you're talking about?

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    I read about this earlier today... what's innovative about the design is that it wasn't thought from the start as a conventional combustion engine. This thing requires electricity to start up the process, so it's always going to be a hybrid engine.

    Self-contained combustion engines have always been very inefficient. It's encouraging to start seeing designs 'outside-the-box' that incorporate other tech to improve efficiency.

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    This thing requires electricity to start up the process, so it's always going to be a hybrid engine.
    So it just needs juice to start, like a car battery.

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    I'd want to see one of these things actually work before I sunk any money into it, although it is innovative, but so where propane and air powered cars...

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    One thing wrong with this guy's untested prototype design is the scale. His "wave engine' isn't too different from attempts to scale down turbine engines. There has been some real interesting progress there.
    You do not even know how the electric fields in a capacitor work. Now you think you have some idea about compression in a rotational system?

    Go read some wikipedia dip .

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    If this design is so promising, I question why it takes so long to go from the design and theoretical phase to the proto-type phase...this could be an answer to our energy and the environmental crisis..

    theoretically...

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    why not just build a pipe from the esxaust back into the engine block?

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    why not just build a pipe from the esxaust back into the engine block?

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