Phil: Kobe's Very First Words To MJ Was: "I Can Beat You 1 on 1"

[Giuseppe]

Not only that, but much like Kobe & Neal, they have very serious accusations. If Neal raped, then they are pedos and keep pictures of dead people on their computers.

Neal did rape. There is no ifs, ands, or, buts about it.

[LkrFan]

I think Jordan paid off his bets though.

Maybe, but maybe not. His father was murdered - probably due to MJ's betting. Sad actually.

[DPG21920]

Yup. They go around showing serious signs of being disturbed but everyone ignores it because it's the internet. It is why they can so freely discuss rape while ignoring facts. It is because they themselves are in that circle. They do things just as vile as rape. Not only have they been accused, but there has been plenty of do ented moments of who they really are.

[DPG21920]

They can say Neal and Kobe raped and that proves they are pedo's by the same account, which as messed up as it sounds, is even worse.

These are the people you deal with.

[Bito Corleone]

you gots been saying all along that Kobe couldn't win without Shaq..

then it was without Gasol....

now I hit you with the real data of how much better he was without Shaq and Gasol than MJ without Pippen and now you want to seem reasonable again...Go Yourself....

Jordan without Pippen - on the bulls, when it mattered not when he was 40 years old on the ing Wizards

Pts: 33.70
FG%: .493
Rbs: 6.01
Ast: 5.32
Stl: 2.74
Blk: 1.26

Kobe without Shaq or Gasol

Pts: 31.75
FG%: .450
Rbs: 5.63
Ast: 5.25
Stl: 1.54
Blk: 0.53

Cept MJ never rang without Pippen.

Kobe rang without Daddy and without Gasol.

Seems you missed the point there, Cully. Kobe never "rang" without one of the two...and the argument was Kool trying to say Kobe was still better than MJ without Pippen even when he didn't have either of them. Try and keep up next time.

[benefactor]

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[Bill_Brasky]

I wouldn't give that the time a day.

Except that you just gave it to him, in this very thread. Your actions and your words are sending two completely different messages to people.

[Kyle Orton]

Yup. They go around showing serious signs of being disturbed but everyone ignores it because it's the internet. It is why they can so freely discuss rape while ignoring facts. It is because they themselves are in that circle. They do things just as vile as rape. Not only have they been accused, but there has been plenty of do ented moments of who they really are.

Posts like this one below only confirm this su ions:

Does Kool remind you of the guy that touched you when you were 6? Easy there, buddy.

Sad. Even the internet isn't a safe place.

[Giuseppe]

Seems you missed the point there, Cully. Kobe never "rang" without one of the two...and the argument was Kool trying to say Kobe was still better than MJ without Pippen even when he didn't have either of them. Try and keep up next time.

I ain't Kool. I'm his Champion, yes, but, he's fully grown man.

If he jumped off the Watt's Towers do you think I would follow him?

Please.

[Giuseppe]

Except that you just gave it to him, in this very thread. Your actions and your words are sending two completely different messages to people.

Yes, I disrespect him, but, if I met him on the streets and he asked for the correct time, I wouldn't give it to him if I actually had it.

[Bill_Brasky]

Yes, I disrespect him, but, if I met him on the streets and he asked for the correct time, I wouldn't give it to him if I actually had it.

Except that would never happen, because you never leave your computer.

[Giuseppe]

Except that would never happen, because you never leave your computer.

[Bito Corleone]

I ain't Kool. I'm his Champion, yes, but, he's fully grown man.

If he jumped off the Watt's Towers do you think I would follow him?

Please.

Why would I, or anyone, think otherwise? You seem to follow him enough from what I see. You're basically his lap dog at this point.

[Kyle Orton]

Lakerfan has reached a new high in unintentional comedy: claiming they wouldn't give a HOF NBA player the time of day while being in denial about the fact no one on the Lakers would even pee on them of they were on fire

[Giuseppe]

Lakerfan has reached a new high in unintentional comedy: claiming they wouldn't give a HOF NBA player the time of day while being in denial about the fact no one on the Lakers would even pee on them of they were on fire

[Giuseppe]

Why would I, or anyone, think otherwise? You seem to follow him enough from what I see. You're basically his lap dog at this point.

I wouldn't sully our relationship by discussing same.

Let us proceed...

[LkrFan]

Cmon, let's be real. If Jordan had won his first ring with playoff averages of 21 ppg on 43% shooting, 4 rebs, and 4 assists while being carried by a 30ppg, 15rpg center he would have hung himself.

Better yet if Jordan had averaged 19 points on 36% shooting with 4 rebs, and 4 assists in his first Finals and won a ring on the back of a center putting up averages of 38 points on 60% shooting and 16 boards he would have hung himself and then set himself on fire.

If MJ played with Shaq, PJ would have made him a 2nd option too. And way to bring up those numbers. How old was Kobe - 21 while posting those numbers? What about the 2nd le and the 3rd? Was he still at 21 ppg?

MJ had the refs in his backpocketPERIOD. There is NOTHING that MJ did that Kobe wouldn't have been able to do if Kobe were on those Bulls teams. MJ was before his time, playing against only about 3 players that could be considered his athletic equal or in the same stratosphere: Dumars, Drexler, Dominique. That's it. Kobe would have broke Craig Ehlo off for 69 points or Bird (who was guarding MJ anyway - Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge? ) for 63 points, and he wouldn't have had to push off on Bryon Russell.

MJ's legend grows by the day. Truth be told, Pippen guarded the opposition's best perimeter player probably 85-90% of the time which allowed MJ to do his thang offensively. Kobe didn't have that luxury until either Ariza emerged and then they brought in Artest. Otherwise, Kobe had to shut down his man and give LA 35 - especially post Shaq and pre-Gasol.

Oh, and MJ would NOT have won more than 3 rings without Worm signing with them. , he lucky Shaq bolted Orlando when he did. In 1994 they just finished off MJ's Bulls - prompting him to sign a bitter enemy just to have the chance to compete (Worm). Shaq, Penny, D Scott, Horace Grant , Nick Anderson, etc., were young, but getting ready to push MJ's in until Shaq went to LA. I think deep down you know this.

I'm anxiously awaiting the day when Kobe get's #7. It's gonna happen and when it does, there will be a lot of going on with the mediots and haters. It's gone be fun. If true greatness is measured by rangs, then you have to conclude that Kobe > MJ. Kind of gives you a sickening feeling huh?

[Bill_Brasky]

If MJ played with Shaq, PJ would have made him a 2nd option too. And way to bring up those numbers. How old was Kobe - 21 while posting those numbers? What about the 2nd le and the 3rd? Was he still at 21 ppg?

MJ had the refs in his backpocketPERIOD. There is NOTHING that MJ did that Kobe wouldn't have been able to do if Kobe were on those Bulls teams. MJ was before his time, playing against only about 3 players that could be considered his athletic equal or in the same stratosphere: Dumars, Drexler, Dominique. That's it. Kobe would have broke Craig Ehlo off for 69 points or Bird (who was guarding MJ anyway - Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge? ) for 63 points, and he wouldn't have had to push off on Bryon Russell.

MJ's legend grows by the day. Truth be told, Pippen guarded the opposition's best perimeter player probably 85-90% of the time which allowed MJ to do his thang offensively. Kobe didn't have that luxury until either Ariza emerged and then they brought in Artest. Otherwise, Kobe had to shut down his man and give LA 35 - especially post Shaq and pre-Gasol.

Oh, and MJ would NOT have won more than 3 rings without Worm signing with them. , he lucky Shaq bolted Orlando when he did. In 1994 they just finished off MJ's Bulls - prompting him to sign a bitter enemy just to have the chance to compete (Worm). Shaq, Penny, D Scott, Horace Grant , Nick Anderson, etc., were young, but getting ready to push MJ's in until Shaq went to LA. I think deep down you know this.

I'm anxiously awaiting the day when Kobe get's #7. It's gonna happen and when it does, there will be a lot of going on with the mediots and haters. It's gone be fun. If true greatness is measured by rangs, then you have to conclude that Kobe > MJ. Kind of gives you a sickening feeling huh?

[Giuseppe]

If true greatness is measured by rangs

That's how they measured it at Duncan: 4, Kobe: 3.

Now that the chickens have come home to roost at Kobe: 5, Duncan: 4 they're all running as fast as they can.

[Riddler]

If MJ played with Shaq, PJ would have made him a 2nd option too. And way to bring up those numbers. How old was Kobe - 21 while posting those numbers? What about the 2nd le and the 3rd? Was he still at 21 ppg?

MJ had the refs in his backpocketPERIOD. There is NOTHING that MJ did that Kobe wouldn't have been able to do if Kobe were on those Bulls teams. MJ was before his time, playing against only about 3 players that could be considered his athletic equal or in the same stratosphere: Dumars, Drexler, Dominique. That's it. Kobe would have broke Craig Ehlo off for 69 points or Bird (who was guarding MJ anyway - Dennis Johnson and Danny Ainge? ) for 63 points, and he wouldn't have had to push off on Bryon Russell.

MJ's legend grows by the day. Truth be told, Pippen guarded the opposition's best perimeter player probably 85-90% of the time which allowed MJ to do his thang offensively. Kobe didn't have that luxury until either Ariza emerged and then they brought in Artest. Otherwise, Kobe had to shut down his man and give LA 35 - especially post Shaq and pre-Gasol.

Oh, and MJ would NOT have won more than 3 rings without Worm signing with them. , he lucky Shaq bolted Orlando when he did. In 1994 they just finished off MJ's Bulls - prompting him to sign a bitter enemy just to have the chance to compete (Worm). Shaq, Penny, D Scott, Horace Grant , Nick Anderson, etc., were young, but getting ready to push MJ's in until Shaq went to LA. I think deep down you know this.

I'm anxiously awaiting the day when Kobe get's #7. It's gonna happen and when it does, there will be a lot of going on with the mediots and haters. It's gone be fun. If true greatness is measured by rangs, then you have to conclude that Kobe > MJ. Kind of gives you a sickening feeling huh?

At MJ ever being a second option

[LkrFan]

That's how they measured it at Duncan: 4, Kobe: 3.

Now that the chickens have come home to roost at Kobe: 5, Duncan: 4 they're all running as fast as they can.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Kobe is the constant in his own ringing.

Pippen is the constant in MJ's ringing.

I would take a prime Shaq or Gasol over Pippen every day of the week.

MJ never needed a big to carry him. Quite the opposite in fact.

[LkrFan]

At MJ ever being a second option

Ok, riddle me this. The triangle is a triple post offense. Shaq in his prime truly was MDE. You mean to tell me that you got a 7'1" 325lb monster shooting 60% and you would make him a 2nd option to appease MJ? Jokes on you then.

[Giuseppe]

I would take a prime Shaq or Gasol over Pippen every day of the week.

MJ never needed a big to carry him. Quite the opposite in fact.

All I know is MJ never rang without Pippen.

Kobe rang without Daddy, and without Gasol.

You can't dispute it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

All I know is MJ never rang without Pippen.

Kobe rang without Daddy, and without Gasol.

You can't dispute it.

Dispute that MJ played with Pippen for most of his career and was able to lead a team while Bryant got butthurt and tore his team apart? Of course not.

Bryant made his own bed and sucked in it.

Its a credit to MJ that he kept those teams together and focused and its not a credit to the malcontent.