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    http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakers...oma-city-.html

    Before he could see any of his teammates, Kobe Bryant immediately darted into the trainer's room. Bryant usually goes through this ritual at some point following a game, receiving extensive treatment and icing on his assorted injuries, most notably his surgically repaired right knee and arthritic right index finger. But not this soon. The Lakers' 120-106 loss Sunday to the Oklahoma City Thunder agitated him so much he wanted to avoid any contact with teammates.

    Whether it's a deliberate message or a way to temper his emotions, the Lakers didn't exactly hear what the co-captain had to say about the team's season-high fifth consecutive loss or even his three turnovers in the final three minutes overshadowing his 31 points on 10-of-19 shooting, a statistic he attributed to Oklahoma City's defense. But it's a sign nonetheless that the Lakers' losses are more than just blips.

    "I didn't want to redecorate the walls in here so I made the effort to go in the training room and keep to myself," Bryant said 62 minutes after the game ended and then responded sarcastically to whether he was mad. "No, not at all."

    Bryant was uncertain on whether the Lakers can turn things around in the two remaining regular-season games -- Tuesday against San Antonio and Wednesday at Sacramento -- in time for the Lakers to be at their best once the playoffs start, offering a tepid, "I hope so." Lakers forward Pau Gasol suddenly called the last two games "must-win." And both Bryant and Lakers center Andrew Bynum argued they need a long practice Monday to expedite all the corrections they need to make.

    The reason for the Lakers' increased unhappiness points to how their continual losing makes it more and more obvious they're setting themselves up for drastic home-court implications. A Lakers' victory and a Mavericks loss to Phoenix on Sunday would've secured a No. 2 seeding in the Western Conference. Instead, the opposite happened. The Lakers and Dallas Mavericks are tied at 55-25 for the second spot in the West, while the Thunder closed the gap to one game behind them. Though the Lakers hold both a tiebreaker over Dallas after locking up the Pacific Division and over Oklahoma City after finishing 2-1 in the regular-season series, that's not making the Lakers any more comfortable. Although Lakers Coach Phil Jackson told his team not to pay attention to the Eastern Conference teams because it promotes looking ahead to a possible NBA Finals matchup, it's hard not to notice the Miami Heat (56-25) have a one-game edge over the Lakers, while Boston (55-25) remains tied.

    "We were complacent a little bit and we got caught," Jackson said, referring to the team's previous three losses against Utah, Golden State and Portland. "I told them yesterday I didn't think we could turn it around in one game."

    Certainly not.

    The Lakers allowed Oklahoma City to shoot 55.6% from the field, 47.1% from three-point range and outrebound them 38-34, areas the Lakers usually dominate considering the team's defensive scheme that funnels drivers into the team's frontline had largely spurred the Lakers' 17-1 effort following the All-Star break. Instead, the Lakers displayed a defense Bryant described as "horrible."

    The Thunder went on a 17-2 run, including a possession that exemplified the Lakers' poor play: Ron Artest airballed a three-pointer, Bryant grabbed the rebound and then airballed another trey. They again had no answer for Russell Westbrook's speed (26 points, seven assists and six rebounds). Artest normally forces Thunder forward Kevin Durant into a poor shooting clip to get his points, but his 31 points came on 11-of-15 shooting. And even though Thunder center Kendrick Perkins scored only two points, his presence has sharpened Oklahoma City's toughness, particularly in the paint.

    "We know we can win, but we need practice," Bynum said. "We're not a unit right now. There's a lot of individual things going right for certain guys, but as a unit collectively we're not there."

    What's even more disconcerting, the Lakers actually tried this time. It featured Bryant and Gasol (26 points on 10-of-16 shooting) scoring at prolific rates, Steve Blake coming up with a rare solid shooting performance (nine points on three-of-three shooting) and Bryant refusing to back away from Perkins' headlock, which resulted in a technical foul for both. But the negatives, such as Gasol's four rebounds, Lamar Odom's sudden drop in productivity (seven points on three-of-nine shooting) and the blown fourth-quarter execution hard to watch.

    To think, it was only last week that plenty centered on when the starters would begin resting, when "Khloe and Lamar" would debut on TV and whether the Lakers are suddenly invincible. Lakers guard and co-captain Derek Fisher reminded everyone that the Lakers went 6-7 in their final 13 regular-season games last season and were on the brink of elimination in a first-round series with the Sacramento Kings and the Western Conference Finals against the Portland Trail Blazers in the 2000 playoffs, only to finish with favorable results. It could very well be one of those times once again. But the Lakers have a lot of work to do with little room for error.

    "This one is tough for us because we were playing so well," Fisher said. "This is coming at a really bad time for us in terms of how we finish the regular season, but we still have an opportunity to solidify our spot."

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    17 and 1 came just a bit too early ......... hopefully they figure out something in these last two games because this is brutal

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    they'll curb stomp the Spurs this tuesday. you heard it here first folks.

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    It's been nice not having10+ threads a day started by lakers trolls. And I thought GNSF was bad about melting down...

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    they'll curb stomp the Spurs this tuesday. you heard it here first folks.
    Oh, of course they'll blow out the Spurs on Tuesday, but it will be a hollow victory against the Spurs' scrubs.

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    "Bryant said 62 minutes after the game ended." Seriously, they keep track of such . Do they stalk him or anything?

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    It was rather sad to see the lakers fold like that.
    Big game coming up for LA n SA..both have a chance to mess up each others standings in the HCA race. Should be a good game.

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    It was rather sad to see the lakers fold like that.
    Big game coming up for LA n SA..both have a chance to mess up each others standings in the HCA race. Should be a good game.
    The only team that the Spurs are in contention with for HCA is the Bulls, and that's only if they meet in the Finals. The Spurs have HCA throughout the playoffs over everyone else already.

    I don't see Pop trying too damn hard against LA tomorrow night.

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    http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakers...oma-city-.html

    Before he could see any of his teammates, Kobe Bryant immediately darted into the trainer's room. Bryant usually goes through this ritual at some point following a game, receiving extensive treatment and icing on his assorted injuries, most notably his surgically repaired right knee and arthritic right index finger. But not this soon. The Lakers' 120-106 loss Sunday to the Oklahoma City Thunder agitated him so much he wanted to avoid any contact with teammates.

    Whether it's a deliberate message or a way to temper his emotions, the Lakers didn't exactly hear what the co-captain had to say about the team's season-high fifth consecutive loss or even his three turnovers in the final three minutes overshadowing his 31 points on 10-of-19 shooting, a statistic he attributed to Oklahoma City's defense. But it's a sign nonetheless that the Lakers' losses are more than just blips.

    "I didn't want to redecorate the walls in here so I made the effort to go in the training room and keep to myself," Bryant said 62 minutes after the game ended and then responded sarcastically to whether he was mad. "No, not at all."

    Bryant was uncertain on whether the Lakers can turn things around in the two remaining regular-season games -- Tuesday against San Antonio and Wednesday at Sacramento -- in time for the Lakers to be at their best once the playoffs start, offering a tepid, "I hope so." Lakers forward Pau Gasol suddenly called the last two games "must-win." And both Bryant and Lakers center Andrew Bynum argued they need a long practice Monday to expedite all the corrections they need to make.

    The reason for the Lakers' increased unhappiness points to how their continual losing makes it more and more obvious they're setting themselves up for drastic home-court implications. A Lakers' victory and a Mavericks loss to Phoenix on Sunday would've secured a No. 2 seeding in the Western Conference. Instead, the opposite happened. The Lakers and Dallas Mavericks are tied at 55-25 for the second spot in the West, while the Thunder closed the gap to one game behind them. Though the Lakers hold both a tiebreaker over Dallas after locking up the Pacific Division and over Oklahoma City after finishing 2-1 in the regular-season series, that's not making the Lakers any more comfortable. Although Lakers Coach Phil Jackson told his team not to pay attention to the Eastern Conference teams because it promotes looking ahead to a possible NBA Finals matchup, it's hard not to notice the Miami Heat (56-25) have a one-game edge over the Lakers, while Boston (55-25) remains tied.

    "We were complacent a little bit and we got caught," Jackson said, referring to the team's previous three losses against Utah, Golden State and Portland. "I told them yesterday I didn't think we could turn it around in one game."

    Certainly not.

    The Lakers allowed Oklahoma City to shoot 55.6% from the field, 47.1% from three-point range and outrebound them 38-34, areas the Lakers usually dominate considering the team's defensive scheme that funnels drivers into the team's frontline had largely spurred the Lakers' 17-1 effort following the All-Star break. Instead, the Lakers displayed a defense Bryant described as "horrible."

    The Thunder went on a 17-2 run, including a possession that exemplified the Lakers' poor play: Ron Artest airballed a three-pointer, Bryant grabbed the rebound and then airballed another trey. They again had no answer for Russell Westbrook's speed (26 points, seven assists and six rebounds). Artest normally forces Thunder forward Kevin Durant into a poor shooting clip to get his points, but his 31 points came on 11-of-15 shooting. And even though Thunder center Kendrick Perkins scored only two points, his presence has sharpened Oklahoma City's toughness, particularly in the paint.

    "We know we can win, but we need practice," Bynum said. "We're not a unit right now. There's a lot of individual things going right for certain guys, but as a unit collectively we're not there."

    What's even more disconcerting, the Lakers actually tried this time. It featured Bryant and Gasol (26 points on 10-of-16 shooting) scoring at prolific rates, Steve Blake coming up with a rare solid shooting performance (nine points on three-of-three shooting) and Bryant refusing to back away from Perkins' headlock, which resulted in a technical foul for both. But the negatives, such as Gasol's four rebounds, Lamar Odom's sudden drop in productivity (seven points on three-of-nine shooting) and the blown fourth-quarter execution hard to watch.

    To think, it was only last week that plenty centered on when the starters would begin resting, when "Khloe and Lamar" would debut on TV and whether the Lakers are suddenly invincible. Lakers guard and co-captain Derek Fisher reminded everyone that the Lakers went 6-7 in their final 13 regular-season games last season and were on the brink of elimination in a first-round series with the Sacramento Kings and the Western Conference Finals against the Portland Trail Blazers in the 2000 playoffs, only to finish with favorable results. It could very well be one of those times once again. But the Lakers have a lot of work to do with little room for error.

    "This one is tough for us because we were playing so well," Fisher said. "This is coming at a really bad time for us in terms of how we finish the regular season, but we still have an opportunity to solidify our spot."
    Listen I don't care what's rude or disrespectful! Obviously that person worked on being a all their life and I know all about it, and if I'm gonna get played by one then I may as well tell it like it is, come on now, what's wrong with you??

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    The only team that the Spurs are in contention with for HCA is the Bulls, and that's only if they meet in the Finals. The Spurs have HCA throughout the playoffs over everyone else already.

    I don't see Pop trying too damn hard against LA tomorrow night.

    Yes i know


    As soon as I pushed "submit" I was like maybe I should have added that LA could mess it up for the spurs and bulls and SA could mess it up for LA and Mavs. But I was like nah..they know. Thanks for proving me wrong tampa

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    Yes i know


    As soon as I pushed "submit" I was like maybe I should have added that LA could mess it up for the spurs and bulls and SA could mess it up for LA and Mavs. But I was like nah..they know. Thanks for proving me wrong tampa
    lol not being able to infer

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    I'm not worried about HCA in the Finals, tbh...I think Miami is coming out of the East, and we already have HCA over them, but if we do get through the West and face the Bulls, we can beat them, HCA or no HCA.

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    ^Like ya's handled the Suns here last Spring.

    tee, hee.

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    Yes i know


    As soon as I pushed "submit" I was like maybe I should have added that LA could mess it up for the spurs and bulls and SA could mess it up for LA and Mavs. But I was like nah..they know. Thanks for proving me wrong tampa
    Please to be speaking more clearly, señor.

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    ^Like ya's handled the Suns here last Spring.

    tee, hee.
    0-10 skunker and counting for the Fakeshow. You have no room.

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    Didn't Phil Jackson comment just last month on trying to still get HCA over the Eastern teams when the Spurs looked out of reach (i.e., looking ahead)?

    Maybe its time for the Piss and Purple to bring in a sports psychiatrist again?

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Your O & 6 Fest tops our O & 5.

    ha, ha.

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    Your O & 6 Fest tops our O & 5.

    ha, ha.
    Lakers are on an 0-10 skunker, brah, and at full strength, with 3 of the last 5 games at home. The Lakers' skunkathon is worse by a billion light years.

  19. #19
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    No. You have The Skunker and the O & 6 Fest.

    We have O & 5.

    Next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    No. You have The Skunker and the O & 6 Fest.

    We have O & 5.

    Next!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The only skunkers in LA vs. SA playoff history are a couple of 0-4 skunkadelics by the Lakers.

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    The only skunkers in LA vs. SA playoff history are a couple of 0-4 skunkadelics by the Lakers.
    I'm talking about The Skunker from last Spring.

  22. #22
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    The Heat, Spurs, and Lakers are all proud owners of losing streaks of at least 5 games this season.

    Boston has looked really shaky for a month now.

    Orlando just seems like a deeply flawed team. So do the Mavs.

    And yet, one of these teams will likely win the NBA le.

    Really, of all the contending teams, only OKC and Chicago have escaped looking like trash recently. That is in large part because both started slow and got their losing out of the way early. It's also in part due to lower expectations.

    I think last year's two Finals teams are ample evidence that "momentum" heading into the playoffs isn't a real strong indicator of how things will shake out.

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    I'm talking about The Skunker from last Spring.
    Oh, you're a Suns fan, then??? Okay...gotcha...how's the fishing this year???

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Oh, you're a Suns fan, then??? Okay...gotcha...how's the fishing this year???
    Always have been.

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    I think last year's two Finals teams are ample evidence that "momentum" heading into the playoffs isn't a real strong indicator of how things will shake out.
    ^ truth

    Just when you think you've got it all figured out, a Fisher .4 or a Horry flagrant can change everything in an instant.

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