If it were an unreasonable buyout, I'd think ownership would make sure Biz Markee's coach would encourage the kid to attend any and all international compe ions/expos -- NBA attention would either equal asses in seats or a nice buyout windfall.
European coaches are often windmill tilters and frequently resign or quit in the middle of the year over issues we'd consider trivial. Owners give them a lot of freedom/la ude until they jerk it all back in an instant. Don't use the reaction or lack thereof to his going to the Nike Summit to try to divine his buyout level.
Not so sure. He's raw as and under contract overseas. He won't be coming over immediately - teams shy away from that.
I am confident that at least 3 foreign bigs will be taken before him
Kanter, Vesely and Valancunias
and according to draftexpress he's currently behind
Mirotic and Motiejunas
Last edited by pad300; 04-10-2011 at 10:49 AM.
No way he's available to us after that performance last night
I also think he's at most the 4th earliest Euro Big Drafted, but I could still see him going in the lottery. The draft this year...Ugh
Biyombo is under contract with Fuenlabrada for another three years, but he has a relatively simple NBA buyout clause (€1 million Euros). What's even more attractive is the fact that the NBA team that drafts him can rest assured knowing that he can continue to play in Europe in the event of a lockout, which won't slow his development.
From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/article/...#ixzz1JD0HonzX
http://www.draftexpress.com
The hype may be getting a bit out of hand for this kid. DX's newest mock has him going 8th.
This time of year is always entertaining that way.
Last year around this time Stanley Robinson and Nemanja Bjelica were sniffing the lottery and Paul George and Luke Babbitt were late 1st/early 2nd-rounders.
I usually like DX but singler going #7 in the 2nd rd is pretty ridiculous...I'm all for unknowns moving up into the draft so players like honeycutt or jajuan johnson might actually get pushed to 29-30.
Last edited by yavozerb; 04-11-2011 at 08:32 AM.
PORTLAND, Ore. -- So how old is this Bismack Biyombo, the African triple-double prodigy who may be in the NBA next season?
"A lot of time people are saying I can't be so young, that I am much older,'' said Biyombo, the 6-foot-9, 243-pound forward/center from Congo who is listed as 18 years old. "It is not the first time I hear this, but I really don't care.''
Biyombo produced the first triple-double ever seen at the Nike Hoop Summit on Saturday, with 12 points (5-of-7 from the field), 11 rebounds and an astonishing 10 blocks in the World Select Team's 92-80 loss to the U.S. Junior National Select Team. The internationals arrived with more size, but the Americans performed as if they were the taller team thanks to their superior athleticism and teamwork. They've been playing together in international compe ions, and their cohesion was intimidating from the opening minute. The World players were alarmed by the speed of the game and were forced to hurry their shots against the fast-closing American defenders.
Team USA ran out to a 20-12 lead while blocking six shots and holding the visitors to 3-of-21 shooting (14.3 percent) in the opening quarter. Duke-bound guard Austin Rivers (son of Celtics coach Doc) continued to make a name for himself by going 7-of-11 (3-of-4 from 3-point range) for a game-high 20 points, while the frontcourt play of future Wildcats Anthony Davis (16 points, 10 rebounds) and Michael Gilchrist (16 points and five blocks) suggested that Kentucky will be back in championship contention next season.
All 10 of the players on Team USA are headed to major college programs, and many of them will be drafted in the NBA lottery over the next couple of years. Of more immediate concern to the dozens of NBA scouts in attendance were several members of the World squad who could be in the draft this June.
Chief among them was Biyombo, who exploited his 7-7 wingspan and the most NBA-ready body on the floor. After a disappointing first quarter, the visitors adapted as Biyombo asserted himself defensively and Polish guard Mateusz Ponitka (who scored a team-leading 17 points) attacked the basket. "He runs the floor, he defends and he's cat-quick,'' said an NBA scout of Biyombo. "His offensive skills need to be developed, but his athleticism screams out.''
"He's Ben Wallace, basically,'' said another NBA executive.
The NBA evaluators spent the week guessing at Biyombo's age as they attended the World Team's practices. A half-dozen NBA scouts and executives told me they believed Biyombo was older than his listed age of 18, based not only on his mature body but also his leadership skills, as he led the Internationals through their pre-practice stretches and was their most vocal and energetic player. Questions of his age won't necessarily damage his stock in the draft, as his maturity will be viewed as strength. He is forecasted as a first-round pick with a chance to sneak into the lottery.
When I asked him Thursday how long he had been playing basketball, he postponed the discussion. "I can say that at this time I prefer to focus on the Nike week,'' he said with a grin. "So I will be around here after the game and I'll let people know everything they want to know, and people will question me everything they want to question and I give the answer.''
On Saturday he said he had been playing basketball since he was 12, both on an outdoor court near his home as well as on an indoor floor at his high school.
He began his professional career in Yemen in 2009, and then moved to the Spanish fourth division in 2009-10. He quickly worked his way up to Spain's ACB, the top national league in Europe, where he is currently averaging 6.4 points, 5.1 rebounds and 2.3 blocks in 14 games with the club Fuenlabrada. "The way I play here, I play everywhere,'' he said following the Hoop Summit. "In the ACB I play with a lot of smart guys, I play with a lot of strong guys, and when I step on the court I just want to kill them.''
Biyombo is a highly engaging character. His favorite NBA players are a couple of All-Star power forwards, Kevin Love and Kevin Garnett. "Kevin Garnett is intense player -- every time he's not on the floor, his team is missing him,'' said Biyombo. "I want to (play) defense as a team. I want to help everybody on my team and I want to win the game ... That's what I heard from my first coach, that the good offense is defense. If I block a lot of shots then it's good offense. If I get a lot of rebounds, then it's good offense.''
After the game, Biyombo stood in the locker room and thanked his teammates and coaches for the opportunity to spend the week in their company.
Another potential first-round pick is Brazilian 7-footer Lucas Riva Nogueira, an 18-year-old known as "Bebe'' (Baby). He is a slim 218 pounds, though he has gained 20 pounds in the last year. And while he is extremely raw offensively, he intrigued scouts by driving left-handed from the top of the key to finish with an explosive dunk during practice Friday. But the compe ion appeared too fast for him Saturday, leaving him with just four points, six rebounds and one block in 13 minutes.
Davis Bertans, a 6-10, 215-pound Latvian forward who plays for Union Olimpija in Slovenia, could also be a first-round pick. "He's a better shooter than Dirk Nowitzki was at the same age,'' said the NBA scout. Though he was a cold 3-of-10 for eight points Saturday, Bertans demonstrated his skill by catching a pass around his ankles and going straight up to convert a corner three.
His father is a coach in Latvia, and as a result Bertans has been playing basketball for as long as he can remember. "Some people say it's like immediately after the birth I was in the gym,'' he said. "My mother said when the ball stopped and there was silence, I was crying; but when somebody was dribbling the ball, I was sleeping.''
A couple of other intriguing Europeans were 6-7 guard Evan Fournier of France, a prolific scorer who plans to enter the draft in 2012, and Croatian Dario Saric, a 6-10, 215-pound forward with the skillset of a point forward, three-point shooter and rebounder. Saric (seven points and six rebounds) was the youngest player in the game -- he celebrated his 17th birthday this week -- and initially was visibly nervous with the ball against the U.S. speed. In the second half, he became more assertive while using his size to rebound, converting a three-pointer and pushing the ball in transition.
One NBA executive cited Saric and Kyle Wiltjer, a 6-10 Canadian forward from Portland (he is committed to Kentucky next season) as the two Internationals with the best upside physically. "There are so many things that can happen over the next few years -- he doesn't mature, or he doesn't improve,'' said another NBA exec of Saric. "But he's a guy with size and a tremendous feel for the game, and to see that at his age is uncommon.''
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Every mock without Jazz taking Freddette is bull
Not necessarily. Jazz GM Kevin O'Connor isn't one to bite on a simple strategy of taking the hometown kid. In fact, he's on record as saying that he "doesn't draft players to curry favor with the locals or for marketing purposes." Rather he drafts to improve his roster.
That said, watch him take Freddette this year, right?
Oh ,yeah. Jazz are in mode "not drafting Freddette isnt end of the world" in case some GM would draft Jimmer and wanted to trade him to Utah.Not necessarily. Jazz GM Kevin O'Connor isn't one to bite on a simple strategy of taking the hometown kid. In fact, he's on record as saying that he "doesn't draft players to curry favor with the locals or for marketing purposes." Rather he drafts to improve his roster.
That said, watch him take Freddette this year, right?
in Salt Lake City, I assume this really means what I think it really means
Wow, now DX has Biyombo going #7, and they still haven't taken Barnes out of their mock. I guess you can't move him up to 6 though, as there is no way Utah could stack a fourth young power forward on their roster, right?
His wingspan is 5" greater than Splitter's. It's like Scottie Pippen, Kevin McHale, Tayshaun Prince,etc. level. Even if he is 22 or 23 he wouldn't be a bad late first round pick in such a lousy draft.
He's just under 6'8 barefoot, 6'9" in shoes, has elite length, and is pretty athletic. And no way does playing great D against top-level talent like Rivers, Gilchrist, Davis, Beal, etc. equate to dominating a JV team. Davis and Rivers would be top 5 picks this year if it wasn't for the age limit, and Gilchrist would probably be top 10. Davis might even have gone #1 to a team that already had a good point guard. Biyomobo has all the athletic tools to be a lockdown defender; I mean, what more could you hope for picking at #29 or #30? Singler? That guy won't be able to handle going against NBA-level defense; look at how Harrison Barnes destroyed him every time those two matched up this year.
Last edited by baseline bum; 04-13-2011 at 08:45 PM.
Damn, I didn't know he blocked Rivers twice; stupid FSN showed a lousy Astros postgame show that pre-empted almost the entire first half of the game.
Nah, I watched those games and Barnes was all in Singler every Duke possession... and besides, NBA teams are going to have way better bigs to funnel Singler into than Henson and Zeller.
I'm with you Tex. As much as I do like Bismack, and I hope he turns out to be 26 years old and all teams get leery of him, I would prefer Festus too.
From a size standpoint, he fits more of what the Spurs are lacking - a commanding paint presence to rebound, block shots and protect the paint. I'll be interested in seeing where he's projected to go. Right now, he's listed as a second round possible.
Biyombo is playing in producing in Spanish league that is the best domestic league in the world behind the NBA. He plays at a level significantly higher than college basketball.And even if he is older by a couple of years than his age, he remains a player with a huge margin of improvement because he has started to play basketball not a long time ago.
I'm not saying Biyombo will be a good NBA player because I haven't watch enough of him and because NBA >>>> Europe but it's hard to deny he is a very intriguing prospect.
that's where "upside" is thought of so highly.
there's stuff you can teach, stuff that's tough to teach, and stuff you can never teach.
this guy seems to have a lot of the tick boxes that appear in the second or third column.
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