If Jason Terry is with Dallas next season, I am switching back to the Knicks

[monosylab1k]

Iguodala



Johnson

dude, the stats say otherwise. No, not those stats, the other stats.

[jag]

I've already stated I would have made that trade. I'm just pointing out that I'm not overly pissed about it because Joe Johnson would have been like the 5th best option they had at the time.

What the are you doing right now?

[jag]

well that sucks.

Yeah no

[Kyle Orton]

oh yeah that's right. Looks like Amare > Dwight Howard. Points per game say so.

You said Iggy was beating him at "every facet of the game". Pick a lane and stick with it.

[monosylab1k]

Do you honestly think Josh Smith is creating 16.7 ppg of offense on his own?

You make a great point. With all that attention, that must mean Joe Johnson is really racking up the assists by finding the open man.......oh wait, Iggy does that better than him too.

[Kyle Orton]

dude, the stats say otherwise. No, not those stats, the other stats.

lol advanced stats

[Budkin]

If Terry leaves Dallas I could actually root for them sometimes.

[monosylab1k]

You said Iggy was beating him at "every facet of the game". Pick a lane and stick with it.

so shooting the ball less efficiently. but scoring more points because you take way more shots suddenly means you're better at scoring?

[Kyle Orton]

With Iggy being so much better than JJ, he must be leading his team to a better record.

[Kyle Orton]

so shooting the ball less efficiently.

44.5% is less efficient than 44.5%? News to me.

[jag]

You make a great point. With all that attention, that must mean Joe Johnson is really racking up the assists by finding the open man.......oh wait, Iggy does that better than him too.

What the does iggy have anything to do with you thinking JJ for Roddy wouldn't be the slightest improvement to this Dallas team?

[monosylab1k]

lol advanced stats

lol moving the goalposts

what stat other than points per game say Joe Johnson > Iggy. You're the one who said the stats made your argument, not us.

[monosylab1k]

What the does iggy have anything to do with you thinking JJ for Roddy wouldn't be the slightest improvement to this Dallas team?

I never once said that you dumbass. I just said trading JJ for Roddy doesn't make Dallas a le contender.

Trading Joe Johnson for Nick Young would make the Wizards better too, but not le contenders.

[Kyle Orton]

lol moving the goalposts

what stat other than points per game say Joe Johnson > Iggy. You're the one who said the stats made your argument, not us.

Career stats say so. This is a down year for JJ. With that said, I didn't know Iggy's assist and rebounding #s were so high, but you'd be re ed to think he's an overall better offensive player than JJ.

[midnightpulp]

I remember endorsing a Monta Ellis deal too, only for the vast majority of Mavs fans here whining about how he would hog the ball and take away all the 18 foot fadeaways over guys 6 inches shorter than him from Dirk.

Could be a blessing in disguise, actually. Monta can score, no doubt, but he also makes superstars out of scrub perimeter players on the regular. The guy redefines the term "matador defense." Granted, his liabilities on the defense end are magnified by playing for Golden State, but at 6-3, 180 pounds, the top shooting guards in the West (Kobe, et al) would feast on him in a playoff series.

Iggy and Brand would've been perfect. That combo addresses many of the Mavs' current problems (perimeter defense, a low post threat, etc.).

[monosylab1k]

44.5% is less efficient than 44.5%? News to me.

sorry I know advanced stats are your kryptonite but there's this thing called true shooting percentage. also effective FG%. Iggy beats JJ in both of those.

[Kyle Orton]

sorry I know advanced stats are your kryptonite but there's this thing called true shooting percentage. also effective FG%. Iggy beats JJ in both of those.

They're not my kryptonite, I just don't use them so I avoid drawing re ed conclusions they lead people to draw....like Beaubois is capable of being a 14 PPG scorer.

[jag]

I never once said that you dumbass. I just said trading JJ for Roddy doesn't make Dallas a le contender.

Trading Joe Johnson for Nick Young would make the Wizards better too, but not le contenders.

Acting as if JJ is hardly better than Roddy says a lot.

The Wizards don't have Dirk. Johnson wouldn't be the #1 option on the Mavs.

[monosylab1k]

Career stats say so.

Oh well then I guess Dallas better not around with trying to get Chris Paul and instead go after Steve Nash. Career stats say so.

[monosylab1k]

Acting as if JJ is hardly better than Roddy says a lot.

Quote?

I just said Joe Johnson doesn't make Dallas a contender, and there were other better options out there that would.

[Greg Oden]

Could be a blessing in disguise, actually. Monta can score, no doubt, but he also makes superstars out of scrub perimeter players on the regular. The guy redefines the term "matador defense." Granted, his liabilities on the defense end are magnified by playing for Golden State, but at 6-3, 180 pounds, the top shooting guards in the West (Kobe, et al) would feast on him in a playoff series.

Iggy and Brand would've been perfect. That combo addresses many of the Mavs' current problems (perimeter defense, a low post threat, etc.).

Knocking Ellis because he doesn't play try to play defense for Golden State doesn't have any legs. Ellis wouldn't hold the bigger perimeter players in the west anyway. And have you seen Roddy play d?

[Kyle Orton]

Oh well then I guess Dallas better not around with trying to get Chris Paul and instead go after Steve Nash. Career stats say so.

Paul and Nash aren't in a similar age range. Age plays a bigger role with Iggy given how much more his game is based off athleticism.

[monosylab1k]

Could be a blessing in disguise, actually. Monta can score, no doubt, but he also makes superstars out of scrub perimeter players on the regular. The guy redefines the term "matador defense." Granted, his liabilities on the defense end are magnified by playing for Golden State, but at 6-3, 180 pounds, the top shooting guards in the West (Kobe, et al) would feast on him in a playoff series.

Maybe so, but his matador defense isn't any different than JET/Kidd/Roddy/Barea. The difference being that he can score way more efficiently.

[Ghazi]

I think Joe Johnson would make the Mavs a le contender. As is, the Mavs are very close to contention... adding Johnson for essentially nothing would push them into the convo, JMHO

Not that Johnson is that good..but I digress!

[jag]

Quote?

I just said Joe Johnson doesn't make Dallas a contender, and there were other better options out there that would.

you do realize Joe Johnson is shooting the ball almost as craptacular as Roddy, right? Except he gets more shots because he gets paid more than LeBron James.

By your reasoning Roddy could easily lead the Hawks to the playoffs with equally craptacular numbers as Joe.