I don't know if I personally said that or not, although I do know he had been in a bit of a slump there for a bit right before he was pulled.you've gotta be kidding me, this is ing rich
I screamed bloody murder whenever carlisle took him out of the lineup, said he was more important to our success than people realized.
You all told me he was a scrub, defense was overrated, and he needed no more than 10 minutes per game
But I have been saying all year, that Roddy is better off the bench, and I would rather the starting lineup have been Stevenson and Peja. Although considering how well Marion has been playing, I would rather him be in the starting lineup, and have Peja be backup to Dirk so that he can provide a similar presence in taking opposing forwards out of the paint.
And I do recall YOU being the one saying every other ing post that Roddy would be an 18ppg scorer.
I screamed bloody murder whenever carlisle took him out of the lineup, said he was more important to our success than people realized.
You all told me he was a scrub, defense was overrated, and he needed no more than 10 minutes per game
pretty tall/long lineup too, tbh.
Kidd 6'4
Stevenson 6'5
Marion 6'7 (ridiculously long arms)
Dirk 7'0
Chandler 7'1
If we roll out there with a starting lineup of Kidd, Stevenson, Marion, Dirk, and Chandler that's a pretty tough group on defense with the exception of Dirk.
Stevenson/Chandler/Marion will all mix it up on defense and Kidd is your classic, old guy, cheap shot artist when he has to be
Yes that is a good D lineup but if Portland doubles Dirk, the mavs O will be putrid
Meh, if I had to choose between mediocre offense to start games with strong defense, or a decent offense to start games with defense, ill take the former all ing day. The tone being set is the purpose of running out there with that kind of a lineup. The Mavs gotta let people know they will get physical and tough with opponents right off the bat, and show the refs they are going to play a physical game, so that way they will allow Chandler to be able to shut down the paint like he was doing early in the season, and hasnt been allowed to do as much of lately because of ticky-tack fouls being called on him, because the Mavs keep beginning games with ty defensive lineups.
The Lakers do the same thing with starting Bynum and Artest, even though Odom is a better player than both, and will always be on the floor in the closing minutes of close games over one of those guys. Having the two of them out there sets that physical tone that allows them to play a physical game all night long, and get away with more fouls.
I'll take brewer's defense ( , I'll even take brewer's offense) over Stevenson's any day.
Stevenson's street reputation is still valuable, only because he should have free reign to go beat the out of the first guy to flagrant Dirk, ensuring that nobody else in the playoffs s with Dirk, lest they receive the wrath of Lincoln Beard.
btw i doubt stevenson or brewer get any significant PT in the playoffs.
Dirk/Jet/Kidd/Marion/TC/Peja/Barea/Haywood will be the 8 man rotation
I don't mind Brewer starting either, but at least when he starts, Stevenson will hit 3s with consistency, and has the strength to battle more with post-up players like Kobe.
IMO you cant go too wrong with either guy. Brewer brings more energy and a little more of an ability to create his own shot, while Stevenson brings maturity and a pretty good 3-ball when left open.
My real concern with Brew is his tendency to pick up fouls.
We know the refs aren't gonna show him any respect, so any slight
bump or hand check he's getting a foul.
understandable, as long as one of them starts, so the team can set a defensive tone.
it was so awesome seeing Stevenson shove CP3 away when he tried pulling that -made flopping on him. I've never seen CP3 so quiet when playing against the Mavs after Chandler and Stevenson both got physical with him.
might be a little different for 2 reasons though
1) he would be starting. if you begin the game with an aggressive style, you get away with more
2) its the playoffs. you get away with more, period. with the exception of the 2002 WCF, the 2006 ECF (Pistons got jobbed just as much as the Mavs did), the 2006 Finals, and the 2nd half of game 7 of the 2010 Finals.
Brew probably won't see minutes, but Deshawn is more than likely
going back to his early season minutes when Roddy was hurt.
I expect Deshawn to see good PT
Don't underestimate Trix my .roddy is more likely to ever develop into an 18 ppg scorer than marion developing a post game
dude needs to develop a jump shot first, lol professional basketball players who still don't know how to properly shoot a jumpshot
still pretty effective tbh
no one seems to be able to stop it, due to the fact that its a really tough shot to guard, because he fades-away and has a strange release point.
and hes shown a few other moves he can throw in there as well. if they play him heavily to the side he does the baby hook on, he often fakes then does a backspin and banks it home off the other side. and ive seen him a few times fake up and go under as well. he definitely has more than 1 move, its just that all his other moves are counters for someone who is solely focused on taking that one shot away, which is hard to do. Not saying he has a Pau Gasol type post-game, but he definitely has an effective one, and has a few different moves he uses in there.
You're all emo cuz they didn't get a guy who would have turned the Mavericks from "non-contenders" to "better non-contenders".
who the said we can rely on Marion? I know I didnt. In fact I specifically said the Mavs should NOT rely on that. He can contribute, but it shouldn't be something the Mavs should consistently fall back on when the offense is sputtering.
coming from the one never shutting the up about Roddy averaging 18ppg
im a roddy fan, but i never expected quite that much, and was NEVER a major supporter of him being a starter, always said hes best off the bench when he can create for himself and others, not having to play in a structured system with Kidd and Dirk getting 90% of the touches.
all im hoping from Marion is to see some hustle, and strong defense, which is something you can generally count on from him. everything else is a bonus.i'm saying he ain't gonna contribute much of , either. he's going to disappear, put up the most quiet 10 and 6 you've ever seen (as if 10 and 6 is great numbers to begin with
thanks alot
Dynastyyou're also on the record saying that if you were our GM we'd have a starting lineup of
baron davis
kobe
corey maggette
brandon bass
chris kaman
and that that lineup would contend
too bad he cant jump more than 2 inches off the groundfindog cardinal hustles and plays okay defense for a lot less than 7 million a year
also, I had Gerald Wallace on that team. And Marion.
Goddamn I'm one of a GM.
Oh believe me, I've been ing sick as of Kidd lately as well. A lot of times I'm just hoping that he turns the ball over less than 8 times before Barea has to come in and fix his mess, which is really ironic, considering how it was completely the opposite last season.that's another problem i have with mav fan, nobody seems to realize kidd ing blows and doesn't deserve nowhere near 90% of the touches. his decline was so slow and subtle over the years that nobody seemed to realize when he crossed from "still serviceable" into the realm of " ing sucks." kidd hasn't been for about 2 years now, anyone can dribble the ball down looking all savvy like a savvy vet
At least he was able to hit open 3s in the past few years, but he cant even do that this year.
oh no, don't bust out the advanced stats in an attempt to look smart!
dude, don't you realize that marion get's most of his attempts off a feed for a layup or garbage points and put backs around the rim?
I assume you consider it an "attempt to look smart" by me moving this discussion in a slightly more objective direction than smileys and "i spy" quotes.
64% of his offense from 0-9 ft from the rim comes from assisted baskets. So close to 40% of his offense from that range comes from unassisted baskets. From 3-9 feet (which might be a better indication of a range where someone would post up) 45% of his offense was unassisted.
Go ahead and find a quote where i said he has a solid post game. Thanks for telling me his broken ass turnaround hook doesn't cons ute a solid post game. The idea that his back-to-the-basket game is "better than you might think" has more to do with the fact that his broken ass hook shoot actually goes in more than any of his other shots which aren't layups or dunks.
In actual post-up situations this season he's shot 50.3%. Other than dunks or layups, it's where he's been most effective this season. So, again, he's really not as bad as you might think.
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