How awesome is it to go back into the future and your presidents mother and get her pregnant with the savior of the universe?
The other day I watched The Terminator for the first time, yeah I know I'm really really late but hey screw it I wasn't around when it first came out. I watched T2 as a kid, but I never watched T1 so I never fully understood it. To me T1 is the superior movie, even though many say T2 is. Arnold Schwarzenegger's played his role as The Terminator greatly. The guy was just so relentless, evil, coldblooded, whatever you wanna call it. I love that throughout the film Kyle and Sarah Connor would find someway to thwart him, and yet he would always come back stronger.
And that theme is magnified when Kyle and Sarah finally think they've killed him by blowing him up in the truck. Only for him to come out of the fire in his Cyborg form (Probably one of the greatest scenes in Action Movie history tbh). He's just such a wicked heart in T1. But T2 is the opposite, yes he's still badass but now the guy's swearing NOT to kill anyone? If I was one of the folks who watched T2 back in 91 I would've been pissed.
This was the same guy in T1 that was gunning down and killing everyone, and now you've got John Connor making him stand on one leg and doing stupid . Man that ing sucks. The directors of T2 should've brought him back as a villain. After all he's supposed to be a Terminator for s sake, why is the guy shooting people in their knees and not Terminating them? Anyway, T2 is still a Great movie, I just think they ed up by not bringing Arnold back as a villain.
I'm interested in seeing what you guys think about these two movies. Oh and btw this is Pure Badness
How awesome is it to go back into the future and your presidents mother and get her pregnant with the savior of the universe?
I like both movies, but it sounds like you didn't pay attention to T2 at all, seeing as how they explain exactly why the Terminator is helping John and not killing people.
Besides, the T-1000 is bad ass enough in his own right.
Of course, I paid attention to T2. Obviously, I understand that the T-800 was sent back in time to protect John Connor. But I'm just saying I would've preferred them sticking with Arnold as a villain. Still a great movie though.
Interestingly the original idea was for the Terminator to be a smaller guy, and for whatever reason that I can't recall they wound up using Arnold. The second movie is more like what they had in mind, with a Terminator of a much smaller stature.
They had originally talked to Arnold for the part of Kyle Reese.
Last edited by PM5K; 04-16-2011 at 01:02 AM.
Yep. Cameron's initial pick was Lance Henrickson, who went on to play a robot for Cameron in Aliens. IIRC I think it was executive meddling that changed that. The wanted someone more imposing. As the story goes the next guy they looked at was OJ Simpson but finally decided that he had too much of a nice guy persona for audiences to buy him as a merciless killer.
Tough to picture Arnie shouting into the police surveillance camera: "Yu steel dunt get doyoo? Heel find huh. Zat's wat ee duz. ZAT'S ULL EE DUZ!"
For me I always liked the original the best. If nothing else instead of showing boobies in the second movie, they had Edward Furlong being an annoying little in every scene. Advantage: T1.
Rule #1 of action movies and sequels: you always have to up the ante on the villain. Having Arnold machine gun his way through another movie isn't as much a sequel as it would be the same movie. If you make Arnold the liquid metal Terminator chasing Sarah/John, the movie lasts about 5 minutes. If you send back another resistance human, it might last 15. You need a Terminator to help fight an improved Terminator.
I prefer 1. Ahnold as a lifeless badass ftw. Not to mention the continuous dumdumdumdum music every time he's on the screen. A lot darker more gritty movie
I think both are great. Terminator 1 is better because it's balls to the wall action with no mercy, but t2 is good because of the emotional elements it invites the audience to wonder about.
I totally didn't know there was a sex scene in the first part until I bought the DVD with my parents way back in the day. None of us knew it was there since we'd only see it on TV, actually. Was kind of awkward. >.>
Kinda awkward? I would be sweating balls and singing some song in my head to take my mind off of it. I saw 300 in the theater with my dad and my 2 brothers in law and that 30ish second sex scene was the longest 30 seconds of my life. I couldn't even enjoy Lena Headey's incredible s
Thumbs up scene at the very end of T2 gets me almost every time.
T2 works even better if you watched T1 when it first came out.
BTW, T1 on blue ray disc is awesome.
T2 is much shinier and has more explosions. T1 is the superior movie.
T2 pisses me off because they cut out the one scene with Michael Biehn. Of all the good scenes cut out, the scene with Sarah and Kyle in her room in the asylum should have never been cut.
Yeah, the original is much better. Stronger storyline, better villain, much stronger soundtrack, and the flashes forward in time when they show terminators mowing humans down is crazy.
Exactly, the dark scenery, the scenes were Arnold just ripped his own flesh off, and his cruelty in his killings kind of made it Horror movie-esque.
I liked them both
But the 3rd one was awful
I am a huge, huge fan of both, although I like the second one more. It has more depth imo.
Cameron picked Schwarzenegger after having a lunch with him. It just struck him while they were talking that Arnold would be an awesome Terminator. Personally, I liked Furlong a lot in that movie. Every girl in my 8th grade class had the biggest crush on him as well for whatever reason.
OP was this thread due to The Terminator being added to instant Netflix recently? I'm about to watch it on instant Netflix because of this thread.
No, it was actually because I heard some older folks talking about watching The Terminator back in 1984 when it came out. That's when it struck me that I'd never seen it, so I decided to watch both T1 and T2 to compare.
PS- I'm pretty sure folks were raving when T1 first came out.
I watched it as a kid. LOL @ my mom letting me see this when I was 6 or 7. I then remember being so pumped up for the 2nd one wen I saw the previews and I actually went alone to see it. LOL @ the movies letting me in alone.
I have T2 on dvd but not bluray but its a special edition DVD so I might just watch both now. I'm watching T1 on netflix right now.
"I know now why you cry"![]()
Speaking of the Terminator in a sense, Google is trying to make Google Goggles so smart it can recognize everything it scans.
When I first heard this, the first thing that popped into my head was that Google was Cyberdyne and that Goggles was going to be Skynet.![]()
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