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  1. #126
    Dryer than Kunta's ankles Ashy Larry's Avatar
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    TampaDude, gun control laws are good. we had this whole thing when this dude went crazy and shot like 35 people, so we banned semi auto rifles. maybe you guys should think about that next time some crazy shoots 50 people for the of it.

    well all our people do after those type of incidents is have an NRA rally in the city where the shooting occurred ...... go Columbine and Charlton Heston

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    You mean like the Virginia Tech shootings? Nice, safe, "gun free" zone there.
    It didn't help that some crazy ass mentally ed up gook was allowed to go out and buy a gun without any screening.

    Same goes for Jared Lee Loughner in Arizona. No way someone with that many mental issues should be able to go out to any gun store and buy a gun.

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    NT? more like SO i said
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    son why do they need a "go to guy" whenever the big 3 all have this ...


    son now that the playoffs have started, have you made your thread where you whine about the officiating yet?

    God bless

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    It didn't help that some crazy ass mentally ed up gook was allowed to go out and buy a gun without any screening.
    tbh I think you might like Australia better. Aren't there less minorities there?

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    It didn't help that some crazy ass mentally ed up gook was allowed to go out and buy a gun without any screening.

    Same goes for Jared Lee Loughner in Arizona. No way someone with that many mental issues should be able to go out to any gun store and buy a gun.
    He's right.

    Why the should anyone need to buy a gun in the first place?

    Your right to bear arms is a throwback to a time when it mattered. It doesn't anymore.

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    It didn't help that some crazy ass mentally ed up gook was allowed to go out and buy a gun without any screening.
    That's just it. When you severely restrict firearms ownership, that only affects the law abiding. Criminals will still have guns, and a criminal who is prepared to rob, rape, or kill is not gonna give a about some "gun charge".

    BTW, that incident exposed a flaw in the system. That hole has been closed. Still doesn't change the fact that if students were allowed to carry on campus, lives could've been saved that day.

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    That's just it. When you severely restrict firearms ownership, that only affects the law abiding. Criminals will still have guns, and a criminal who is prepared to rob, rape, or kill is not gonna give a about some "gun charge".

    BTW, that incident exposed a flaw in the system. That hole has been closed. Still doesn't change the fact that if students were allowed to carry on campus, lives could've been saved that day.
    seriously you're one of the idiots who think guns should be allowed on campus?

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    That's just it. When you severely restrict firearms ownership, that only affects the law abiding. Criminals will still have guns, and a criminal who is prepared to rob, rape, or kill is not gonna give a about some "gun charge".

    BTW, that incident exposed a flaw in the system. That hole has been closed. Still doesn't change the fact that if students were allowed to carry on campus, lives could've been saved that day.
    TBH, the primary thing that should come out of this incident is increased on-campus security.

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    seriously you're one of the idiots who think guns should be allowed on campus?
    Yes, I am one of those people who think that, but it doesn't make me an idiot. Guns SAVE lives, dude. Whenever concealed carry was made "shall issue", such as here in Florida, all the anti-gunners cried that there would be blood in the streets and all that, yet just the opposite happened...violent crime decreased markedly everywhere such legislation was enacted.

    We could debate the morality of firearms ownership all day and night, but I only need to point to one piece of evidence...the Second Amendment. Our cons ution guarantees the right of the people (individuals) to keep and bear arms. This is an individual right, not a collective one. This interpretation was confirmed in the er decision by the SCOTUS. It's the law in the United States. You can disagree with it if you wish, and that's your right, but owning guns is MY right.

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    TBH, the primary thing that should come out of this incident is increased on-campus security.
    Better security is good, but security or police can't be everywhere.

    Call the police, then call Dominos and order a pizza. See who gets there first.

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    Yes, I am one of those people who think that, but it doesn't make me an idiot. Guns SAVE lives, dude. Whenever concealed carry was made "shall issue", such as here in Florida, all the anti-gunners cried that there would be blood in the streets and all that, yet just the opposite happened...violent crime decreased markedly everywhere such legislation was enacted.

    We could debate the morality of firearms ownership all day and night, but I only need to point to one piece of evidence...the Second Amendment. Our cons ution guarantees the right of the people (individuals) to keep and bear arms. This is an individual right, not a collective one. This interpretation was confirmed in the er decision by the SCOTUS. It's the law in the United States. You can disagree with it if you wish, and that's your right, but owning guns is MY right.
    Like I just said, when was the second amendment made? During a time when bearing arms was a necessity for survival. A democracy should be dynamic and able to adapt to the times. If it didn't, women wouldn't be able to vote, nor would blacks, and Kyle Orton would still be able to nail fifth graders. The second amendment argument are gun owners clutching at straws.

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    Better security is good, but security or police can't be everywhere.

    Call the police, then call Dominos and order a pizza. See who gets there first.
    Increased on-campus security/police at multiple areas of a university would decrease the potential for such incident to reoccur. I.E., there should be multiple active security units within the area of a university.

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    Kyle Orton would still be able to nail fifth graders.
    wut?

    You had Giuseppe and IronMexican to choose from and you went with that?

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    Like I just said, when was the second amendment made? During a time when bearing arms was a necessity for survival. A democracy should be dynamic and able to adapt to the times. If it didn't, women wouldn't be able to vote, nor would blacks, and Kyle Orton would still be able to nail fifth graders. The second amendment argument are gun owners clutching at straws.
    The Second Amendment is just as applicable today as the 15th and 19th Amendments. As far as democracy goes, the vast majority of Americans support the right to keep and bear arms. 39 of the 50 states have "shall issue" concealed carry laws. Our people WANT to be able to have guns, and have made that voice heard loud and clear via our state and Federal legislatures.

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    The Second Amendment is just as applicable today as the 15th and 19th Amendments. As far as democracy goes, the vast majority of Americans support the right to keep and bear arms. 39 of the 50 states have "shall issue" concealed carry laws. Our people WANT to be able to have guns, and have made that voice heard loud and clear via our state and Federal legislatures.
    Yes, but I "want" to ram down a gram of blow and drive my car at 200km/h. However, my government has identified that that would be irresponsible behavior that might threaten not only my life, but others. So they changed the law and made it illegal.

    Like they should with guns.

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    Yes, but I "want" to ram down a gram of blow and drive my car at 200km/h. However, my government has identified that that would be irresponsible behavior that might threaten not only my life, but others. So they changed the law and made it illegal.

    Like they should with guns.
    Bad analogy. The US Cons ution does not guarantee the right to snort cocaine nor the right to drive recklessly. It does, however, guarantee the right to own firearms.

    Ownership of, and carrying of, firearms by law abiding citizens is not a public safety hazard. Guns don't commit crimes all by themselves. It takes a CRIMINAL to commit a crime.

    You can pass all the laws you want, but criminals will still be able to get guns. You can't "un-invent" firearms.

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    The crime rate in Oz went through the roof after guns were outlawed. Tbh, you guys are just to ing stupid to use them properly. You are a penal colony after all, goddamn Brit rejects.

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    The crime rate in Oz went through the roof after guns were outlawed.
    Yup...same thing happened in Britain. Look it up, folks.

    Tbh, you guys are just to ing stupid to use them properly. You are a penal colony after all, goddamn Brit rejects.

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    Bad analogy. The US Cons ution does not guarantee the right to snort cocaine nor the right to drive recklessly. It does, however, guarantee the right to own firearms.

    Ownership of, and carrying of, firearms by law abiding citizens is not a public safety hazard. Guns don't commit crimes all by themselves. It takes a CRIMINAL to commit a crime.

    You can pass all the laws you want, but criminals will still be able to get guns. You can't "un-invent" firearms.
    No offense, but that "guns don't kill people" argument is so re ed. Guns give people the opportunity to cause harm at a scale they couldn't achieve without them. How many domestic disputes in the US end up with someone shot without the intent to kill, but still result in a murder?

    Tbh, gun control haters are like arguing with fundy Christians. I'm not going to change your mind, so I'm not going to bother.

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    You aren't going to make a dent in the 2nd Amendment because people who didn't allow their guns to be taken were responsible for it in the first place. You wouldn't know.

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    The crime rate in Oz went through the roof after guns were outlawed. Tbh, you guys are just to ing stupid to use them properly. You are a penal colony after all, goddamn Brit rejects.
    Stupid argument. Australain citizens have never been able to carry concealed weapons, so saying crime went up because Joe Citizen couldn't pull a piece on a liquor store robbery he stumbled upon makes no sense. And crime has gone up across the board in Oz, not just crime involving firearms. I know it might be hard for you Yanks to understand, but not that much crime in Australia involves guns to begin with.

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    No offense, but that "guns don't kill people" argument is so re ed. Guns give people the opportunity to cause harm at a scale they couldn't achieve without them. How many domestic disputes in the US end up with someone shot without the intent to kill, but still result in a murder?
    How many assault/robbery/rape/murder victims could have avoided becoming a victim had they just armed themselves?

    Tbh, gun control haters are like arguing with fundy Christians. I'm not going to change your mind, so I'm not going to bother.
    The difference is that fundy Christians don't have any verifiable, objective evidence to support their claims, but pro-gun folks do.

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    You aren't going to make a dent in the 2nd Amendment because people who didn't allow their guns to be taken were responsible for it in the first place. You wouldn't know.
    No, I would know, because education in my country focuses on the world, not just my own nation.

    Oh SNAP.

    Srsly tho, you actually think there's no link between the amount of guns in the US and the amount of gun crime?

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