Tony Parker in clutch time..

[ALVAREZ6]

point in case

Alvarez 1. your thoughts about TP are stupid and 2. focusing on TP ty game is dumb when Marc ing Gasol scores 24 pts in our house.

1. I don't really think they are too stupid. Specifically explain why my thoughts are way unreasonable.

2. I'm not focusing on TP's ty game, I agree that would be dumb. I didn't start the thread, and strictly was responding to the thought that Tony may have been trying to prove a point, which I still don't think is extremely unreasonable.

Wow

Do you feel better now?

No, I don't, because the Spurs lost, however, it was only one game and I'm not too concerned at all because I think they'll win this series in 5, if not, definitely in 6.

It must have been hard for you to wait for the oportunity...

I guess it was a VERY long regular season for you and a pain to watch TP ending leader in points, assists and FG% for the best team in the west...

No, not at all, again. In fact, it's quite the contrary, I've said Tony has been the best Spurs player throughout this season on numerous occasions...and yes, they are numerous indeed.

You're right, all these years/games were just fool gold and we saw tonight the real TP!
He's one of the best con artist ever!!!

Wrong again on your assumptions. In summary: you're a jackass.

Well at least the Manu fan boys are happy with this loss.

CROFL. No, as already addressed, I'm not only relatively unhappy with the loss but also have been saying Tony has been the most consistent player for the Spurs throughout the season. In addition, I've also gone further to bash Manu a load of times this season. I have hated his shot selection and inconsistency. I know you've been MIA for a long time which might explain why you said what you said.

[ALVAREZ6]

lol @ manu fan boys

[eric365]

Parker is not known for being a clutch player in time of need.

He shines when it dont matter.

Alzheimer or missed the last 10 years ?

Peter D. Newmann of NBA Statistics and Information Research has tallied some numbers that take into account this season. Here are some of his findings:

* This season, Bryant has made seven of the 12 shots, with a chance to win or tie the game, in the last ten seconds of regulation or overtime.
* Bryant's the only player in the last decade who has made seven such shots in a season.
* Bryant has made 26 of the 89 potential game tying or game-winning field goals he has shot over the last decade. That's 29.2%, which is slightly above League average.
* His game-winners, against the Heat, Bucks, Kings, Celtics, Grizzlies, Heat and Raptors come in a season when no other player has hit more than three such shots. Derrick Rose has the second-most attempts, with eight.
* The best field goal percentage, on potential game-tying or game-winning field goals in the last 10 seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime, belongs to Chris Paul. He has hit three of his four shots. Chris Bosh, Chris Duhon, Tim Duncan, Raymond Felton, Rudy Gay, David Lee, Rashard Lewis and O.J. Mayo are all two of three. This season, the League as a whole makes just 26.7% of its shots in that situation.
* Over the last decade, by field goal percentage the best shooters in this setting have been Carmelo Anthony (13-28, .464), Pau Gasol (9-22, .409), Tony Parker (11-29, .379), Chris Paul (9-24, .375) and Shawn Marion (10-28, .357). Bryant over the same period is 26-89 (.292).
* Bryant has attempted by far the most such shots of anyone over the last decade. His 89 is trailed by Vince Carter's 69, Paul Pierce's 57, Dwyane Wade's 51 and LeBron James' 50.
* Bryant's 26 makes also lead the League, followed by Carter with 20, Ray Allen with 17 and Allen Iverson's 14. Carmelo Anthony, Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki and Paul Pierce have each made 13.

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...in-crunch-time

[SPURS50]

Could any more of his shots in the paint roll of the rim like they did today? He has shown moments of being clutch with his 15-18 foot jumper.. Today not so much.

[da_suns_fan]

Regardless if he made it or not, that last shot by Parker was a huge mental error.

Would Ginobili take that shot? Of course not.

[timtonymanu]

Parker is not known for being a clutch player in time of need.

He shines when it dont matter.

[Obstructed_View]

Regardless if he made it or not, that last shot by Parker was a huge mental error.

Would Ginobili take that shot? Of course not.

Yeah, Manu doesn't make questionable plays in crunch time.

[timtonymanu]

Regardless if he made it or not, that last shot by Parker was a huge mental error.

Would Ginobili take that shot? Of course not.

No he would have settled for a step back 3 that hits the front of the rim.

[ALVAREZ6]

no he would have settled for a step back 3 that hits the front of the rim.

+1

[EVAY]

The Spurs were a fast break team all year with one of the quickest players in the league who plays great in the paint, makes good decisions with the ball and is completely healthy.

They were a half court team today.

Even Chump can do the math on that.

This is both true and frightening because I fear it reflects the belief on Pop's part that the guard-first, quick offense that made us so effective this year is only for the 'regular' season, and now that the playoffs are here, we should revert to the "Timmy dominant, big-man dominant game of years past".

Problem being, we don't have the personnel for that style anymore, and the team's effectiveness goes down big, big time when the game is slowed down.
Today's game was a case in point.

[ALVAREZ6]

+1

haha you're just saying that now since people are calling you out on your parker hate and manu love, get real

[ALVAREZ6]

haha you're just saying that now since people are calling you out on your parker hate and manu love, get real

Shut the up, I've been bashing Manu all season long

[Obstructed_View]

This is both true and frightening because I fear it reflects the belief on Pop's part that the guard-first, quick offense that made us so effective this year is only for the 'regular' season, and now that the playoffs are here, we should revert to the "Timmy dominant, big-man dominant game of years past".

Problem being, we don't have the personnel for that style anymore, and the team's effectiveness goes down big, big time when the game is slowed down.
Today's game was a case in point.

Pop loves to go away from things that are working. He accidentally went from what was working in the first half (Duncan) to something else that was working in the third (Parker), then had to really scramble to go away from both in the fourth.

[Brazil]

1. I don't really think they are too stupid. Specifically explain why my thoughts are way unreasonable.

So you are saying mixing decision making opinion with his rap stuff and the fact he had sex with Erin is not stupid ? because there is logical link with all that stuff ?

He wanted to make a point ? he gave the assist for bonner for his 3 and passed the ball to Hill for the 3.

Without Manu he is our main O weapon and he cannot shoot the damn ball in the 4 ? He is one of the most reliable shooter of the league in close situation.

2. I'm not focusing on TP's ty game, I agree that would be dumb. I didn't start the thread, and strictly was responding to the thought that Tony may have been trying to prove a point, which I still don't think is extremely unreasonable.

By posting a link of one of his video ? holly cow, the best example you found to back up the fact he wanted maybe to prove a point is attacking him about what he is doing of his free time ? I'm an horrible chess player but I still play chess because I love not because I take ty decision.

No, not at all, again. In fact, it's quite the contrary, I've said Tony has been the best Spurs player throughout this season on numerous occasions...and yes, they are numerous indeed.

This is why your post was a bit surprising and stupid

[Hoops Czar]

He was horrible in clutch time, big reason for the loss..

Missing mid-range jump shots, and to make it worse, he over-played the drive and left Shane Battier wide open for 3, despite the fact that he was the only shooter the Grizzlies had on the floor, down by 2 points..

He better have a monster game in game 2, tbh..

Don't bring this weak in here. The entire Spurs team is garbage in clutch time especially when the closer is sitting on the sidelines. Btw, Hill missed the game-tying three (not surprising).

Giving up 55% shooting is what did them in. They can't get a simple stop when the game is on the line. The defense just isn't good enough to win. , if they didn't sink 37 of 46 free throws, this game wouldn't have been close.

[Brazil]

Don't bring this weak in here. The entire Spurs team is garbage in clutch time especially when the closer is sitting on the sidelines. Btw, Hill missed the game-tying three (not surprising).

Giving up 55% shooting is what did them in. They can't get a simple stop when the game is on the line. The defense just isn't good enough to win. , if they didn't sink 37 of 46 free throws, this game wouldn't have been close.

wow when a cavalier fan or laker troll or mav troll is the guy with the best analysis of the situation we are in trouble.

thats a very good post regarding our current situation

[ManuBalboa]

Parker has proven himself as clutch. I do smh when he is over there laughing with opponents/refs in the middle of a game.

The Spurs have been absolutely atrocious at drawing up & executing plays out of a timeout this year though. Pop has completely lost it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

this game didnt help us at all when they didnt allow any space for the spot up 3pt shooters....and most of them 3s we took were out of desperation that sinked in

[ALVAREZ6]

So you are saying mixing decision making opinion with his rap stuff and the fact he had sex with Erin is not stupid ? because there is logical link with all that stuff ?

He wanted to make a point ? he gave the assist for bonner for his 3 and passed the ball to Hill for the 3.

Without Manu he is our main O weapon and he cannot shoot the damn ball in the 4 ? He is one of the most reliable shooter of the league in close situation.



By posting a link of one of his video ? holly cow, the best example you found to back up the fact he wanted maybe to prove a point is attacking him about what he is doing of his free time ? I'm an horrible chess player but I still play chess because I love not because I take ty decision.






This is why your post was a bit surprising and stupid

lol the sexting and rap arguments were thrown in there rather trollishly along with the use of "upon further review" to make it seem something scientifically analyzed, when it clearly isn't, and the laughing emoticon, , at the end of the statement also reveals some sort of goofiness in the assessment.

lol, ok you have your opinion, sure maybe a little stupid, but I still think he may have been forcing it too much. Shot selection, as you may tell, is one of my biggest basketball pet peeves, and as already stated that's why I've bashed Manu so much this year. I hate seeing a player shoot something like 4-16 during the game and then take a bad shot in crunch time when there are other options. Especially when that player has a much more reliable option, like driving the lane and either scoring or drawing a foul (these exact lines could apply to Manu's past play as well, word for word). At the end of the day, I was specifically addressing something very defined, and not Tony's play overall, which some people don't seem to understand.

[Pauleta14]

Hill ran the offense in the first half, even when Parker was in the game. Anyone that recorded it go back and watch. Then watch when Parker runs it in the third quarter and suddenly the Spurs start winning again. Then watch when Pop gives the ball back to Hill in the fourth and the Spurs start sucking. Blame Parker for that terrible shot at the end, but don't blame him for playing badly in the three quarters where Pop made Hill the primary ball handler.

I've watch it again and you made a good point!

I'm wondering the effect Pop's decisions has on TP's confidence...

I mean had Pop shown TP more trust, maybe he wouldn't had try to be the "hero" at the end to show Pop that "he can do it"...

TP was bad, shooting wise, but there haven't been a lot of calls for Tony tonight, whitch is strange concidering he is viewed by everybody as the main weapon of the spurs...

Anyway, as bad at he was, he is not the reason we lost, Memphis FG% is just insane for an PO game not even on their floor...

[SpurAddict561]

LOL why is there a Cavs fan in this discussion?

Are we talking about lottery balls or the playoffs here?

[ALVAREZ6]

I've watch it again and you made a good point!


TP was bad, shooting wise, but there haven't been a lot of calls for Tony tonight, whitch is strange concidering he is viewed by everybody as the main weapon of the spurs...

So you've watched the game 2 times and think 16 FTs is equivalent to not receiving a lot of calls? Tony got the most calls out of all players for both teams.






I get it now. You just like to say things.

[SpurAddict561]

We got plenty of calls, we just couldn't get the basket to fall to go for the and 1.

[will_spurs]

So you've watched the game 2 times and think 16 FTs is equivalent to not receiving a lot of calls? Tony got the most calls out of all players for both teams.

I'm pretty sure he means "not many plays called for him", not "not many fouls called by the refs". Read it again this way and you will see it makes sense.

[Hoops Czar]

LOL why is there a Cavs fan in this discussion?

Are we talking about lottery balls or the playoffs here?

Here's another way to look at it. You either win or you lose. There is no second place trophy. If it massages your ego that the Spurs had a better regular season record than the Cavs, so be it.

Do you know who the second biggest winner of the NBA season is? The one who wins the lottery.