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    No, you aren't. I have no idea how Manu draws offensive fouls while double teaming someone, nor do I understand how Parker somehow lacks courage because he only draws two dozen fouls on one end of the floor.
    Parker is a normal person. He does not like his body trampled. Ginobili is not. He draws fouls on both ends. And on D, it hurts. Please tell me the last time you saw Parker purposely stepping in on a big man to draw an offensive foul?

    Splitter drawing any type of foul, except a technical on himself, is impossible while on the bench.

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    Parker is a normal person. He does not like his body trampled. Ginobili is not. He draws fouls on both ends. And on D, it hurts. Please tell me the last time you saw Parker purposely stepping in on a big man to draw an offensive foul?

    Splitter drawing any type of foul, except a technical on himself, is impossible while on the bench.

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    Wow, I want some of what he's smokin...

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    Parker is a normal person. He does not like his body trampled. Ginobili is not. He draws fouls on both ends. And on D, it hurts. Please tell me the last time you saw Parker purposely stepping in on a big man to draw an offensive foul?

    Splitter drawing any type of foul, except a technical on himself, is impossible while on the bench.

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    what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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    I specifically did not watch this game because I KNEW we'd lose it just like 2003 vs Phoenix, and 2005 and 2007 vs Denver. It's a tradition for the Spurs to lose the first game of the playoffs. I should've bet my house on it!
    And here I am, a fan since 1989, and I got duped into betting all my vBookie cash on a 6+ point win thinking this run would be different. will I ever learn? Probably not.

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    The observation was Parker did NOT get the fouls TODAY on the bigs. The reasoning for Ginobili getting fouls drawn on the bigs is his willingness to give up his body (many call it flopping) on D. Ginobili is very good at drawing offensive fouls on bigs when they reverse pivot while posted.

    Is the view still obstructed?
    Its never cleared tbh.

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    Gut-wrenching game to watch. With all of the missed Free Throws (11) and missed layups/finishes around the basket, you could see the Spurs were making the game wayyyy to difficult to win.

    If the game plan is to get to the line, then you make them pay and you do your best to finish plays.

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    Its never cleared tbh.
    You picked an appropriate person to gang up with. He's practically your soulmate.

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    Solid D, what is your take on Tim's minutes?

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    The refs don't give Tony the same respect as other players like Rose or Wade or even Paul. I will never question Tony's toughness or courage on the floor, I rag on him because of his decision making, but don't underestimate his talents, if he was finishing in today's game we would have probably won and he would have been the main reason, but he was off and Tony sometimes won't make an adjustment to offset what the Defense does to him. As far as taking charges, I don't think that's something that Tony has to worry about when he has other defenders who are good at that.

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    what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
    Other people listened and you heard...

    Ok then. I cannot help you with auditory hallucinations.

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    The refs don't give Tony the same respect as other players like Rose or Wade or even Paul. I will never question Tony's toughness or courage on the floor, I rag on him because of his decision making, but don't underestimate his talents, if he was finishing in today's game we would have probably won and he would have been the main reason, but he was off and Tony sometimes won't make an adjustment to offset what the Defense does to him. As far as taking charges, I don't think that's something that Tony has to worry about when he has other defenders who are good at that.
    That may be true.

    Personally I would get POed at him if he did try the things Ginobili does. We need him badly. Parker almost single-handedly got us into the playoffs 2 years back.

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    Solid D, what is your take on Tim's minutes?
    36 minutes were fine for Timmy in a playoff game. What was disappointing is seeing such a poor contribution from a rested Antonio McDyess.

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    You don't think that Tim, against this front line, needs to be at 40+ minutes? 36 minutes seems extremely low for a playoff game, especially one they lost.

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    He was turrible. Actually, the Spurs have pretty much been since he was put in the starting lineup.

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    Maybe my "Blair starting thread" was premonition.

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    Gut-wrenching game to watch. With all of the missed Free Throws (11) and missed layups/finishes around the basket, you could see the Spurs were making the game wayyyy to difficult to win.

    If the game plan is to get to the line, then you make them pay and you do your best to finish plays.
    Exactly what I felt like.

    Blair was awful on putbacks. In this kind of game we have to have those.

    What has happened to Blair around the basket. First half of the season he was using his body extremely well and getting shots off quickly on putbacks.

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    The Spurs were last in the league at defending the 3pt line...and a late three beat them. They also tried to win late by shooting 3s...and that philosophy beat them.

    This has been going on all year. I don't know why anyone is surprised.
    Excellent point.

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    Maybe my "Blair starting thread" was premonition.
    Maybe. I'm too lazy to go look it up, but Blair's been just as bad as Dice defensively and he puts up even weaker than Splitter does around the basket. Why he tried to draw that charge standing right under the basket I'll never know.

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    You picked an appropriate person to gang up with. He's practically your soulmate.
    A gang? I need to come up with some gang signs.

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    I specifically did not watch this game because I KNEW we'd lose it just like 2003 vs Phoenix, and 2005 and 2007 vs Denver. It's a tradition for the Spurs to lose the first game of the playoffs. I should've bet my house on it!
    1) The 2003 Suns won on two miracle threes.

    2) Theres no Bowen here. No Horry. No Barry. This team is much closer to the team Phoenix swept last year than any of those championship seasons.

    Ive said for years Ginobili was the Spurs' MVP. Without him, theyre just very beatable. Duncan might have been good enough to carry a Manu-less team back in in 2003, but not now.

    Take solace that Manu will come back. Comparing this team to any of those teams is a bit of a stretch though.

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    1) The 2003 Suns won on two miracle threes.

    2) Theres no Bowen here. No Horry. No Barry. This team is much closer to the team Phoenix swept last year than any of those championship seasons.

    Ive said for years Ginobili was the Spurs' MVP. Without him, theyre just very beatable. Duncan might have been good enough to carry a Manu-less team back in in 2003, but not now.


    Take solace that Manu will come back. Comparing this team to any of those teams is a bit of a stretch though.
    wait a minute, you trying to imply something thats horse ?

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    The last 1:05 of the game, the Spurs were outscored 7-0. Even though the Spurs went on a 10-0 stretch just prior to the last minutes of play, it has become a sick and disheartening trend of blowing leads late in games. Missing one of the Big 3 is part of that trend, but you would think smart play-making, or at least getting to the FT line would be a part of the scheme.

    I look forward to giving the ball to Tim and Manu in the last 2 minutes of games and let them make the right plays to win.

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    I look forward to giving the ball to Tim and Manu in the last 2 minutes of games and let them make the right plays to win.
    I still think TP has the best matchup to exploit in this series. I understand Manu is the closer on this team but I don't know how he's going to fare against Tony Allen especially if hes less than a 100%....

    TP had some dumb mistakes in the clutch today but I think he's going to step his play up. He missed a lot of easy shots that he normally sticks. I look for him to have a huge Game 2.

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    - This needs to be Tony's series. Although he got to the line alot, I don't think he ran the Spurs' offense very well (or maybe he didn't have enough chance as others have pointed out Hill doing PG duties)..

    - Splitter needs to see some significant playing time. Come on, Pop. At the very least, he's six fouls to give. It was laughable how Pop wouldn't budge even when Blair and Dice were at 5 fouls apiece. Although he might get the rookie treatment, he's still very good at drawing fouls and I think he has the quickness to keep one of their bigs in check.

    - I hope Spurs can win this series with all their limbs, appendages, what-have-yous intact.

    - I thought Neal played well with what he was given. Sure, he forced some shots, but I'd rather see him chuck than shy away from a shot.

    - Dice played really bad. Really, really bad.

    - Bonner's late threes woke me up.

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    Meh I think we will be fine. We lost by a couple without the engine that runs our team. We saw matt bonner finally step up and we saw in the third qtr what can happen when we play the offense that we've all seen this season. We also saw that most of what our guys did in the regular season can be repeated in the postseason(no roger mason crumbling).If gh3 can get Tony Allen in foul trouble I can only imagine what manus gonna do. Randolph and gasol seemed to get a lot of bull shots if you ask me. I'm still calling us in 5.

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