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What can I say, I'm pretty good with my predictions
Well, I feel fairly certain that your routine of getting riled up by sarcastic posts on message boards is no act, so there's no question of dropping it. Here's a lead for you .. there's a guy who poses as an army commander to boost the fan base's morale. I'm not entirely sure he really is an army man. Sounds like a job for a message board crusader like you. Do us proud and defend truth and honesty with every gray post you can muster.
What can I say, I'm pretty good with my predictions
This. I don't know if that was Parkers assignment, but Conley had two guys on him just inside the three point line. Bad mistake.
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Bruce would have been in Shane's pocket on that shot........
True... but Bruce ain't here no more.Bruce would have been in Shane's pocket on that shot........
There was no double team. RJ was trying to force Conley baseline and lost containment, getting himself screened in the process. Parker stepped over to cover him, Battier went away from Parker and someone should have taken Battier.
Parker rotated from Battier. The problem is that Hill didn't rotate to him.
As long as we're talking about RJ, he almost managed to throw the ball away on that last play, and a few minutes earlier he almost did it on a simple perimeter pass. And over the last couple of weeks of the season, he's made more than a few turnovers or near-turnovers on basic plays towards the end of games. I'm really starting to worry about his nerve.
Hill couldn't. Tony Allen had already drawn Hill away from the corner and into the middle as the pass was being made. TP was on his own. Besides, Duncan had already moved to help on Conley in the middle of the lane. The only perimeter Memphis shooter was Battier at the time of the pass.
Good point. Cause for concern.
It's true that Hill couldn't rotate, but only because he wasn't paying attention to anything but Allen. His job in the Spurs' defense is to rotate in that situation. I don't think the loss is on any of the guards for the Spurs, but if we're pointing fingers on that last shot, it goes to Hill and not Parker.
Take a look at this.
http://www.48minutesof .com/so-wh...tier-3-pointer
George wasn't paying attention, which is why he followed Allen. You can't rotate if you aren't watching what's going on.
http://www.fiba.com/downloads/assist...5/mag_0305.pdf
"Also, if there’s penetration of the player with the ball from the corner to the middle, the defender that is the first pass away does not help. He maintains the closed stance. Our goal is to make the most difficult possible situation for the team that wants to take a three-point shot."...
"There are many players that have a good first step off the dribble and there are the those that jump and shoot well at the end of the penetration. However, there are only a few that can shoot in the space between the start of the dribble and the position they finally reach under the basket. That’s because they have a defender by their side and another one, usually a tall player, that runs towards him to stop penetration to the basket. These shots in the lane are difficult, if not impossible ones to make and usually you will find that the offensive players in these situations will kick the ball out to a teammate. In this situation, the defender who goes to cover the ball, forces the player with ball to the baseline. In short, we don’t help out defensively if we are one pass away from the ball. Every time we force the player with the ball to the baseline, and we help at the penetration from the help side (i.e. from the lower position, a defender from the baseline)
Like I said originally, I'm not sure what rules the coaching staff had implemented but typically the player one pass away in the Spurs's scheme positions himself to deny the pass and defend against the 3-point shot.
One more thing regarding the rules implemented at the time. The Spurs will trap WITH the player that is one pass away...if a trapping the ball scheme is in effect. It didn't look like that was the scheme on the play where Battier hit the 3.
That was back when Pop cared about defense.
Well, yeah or so it would seem. If only all of his players cared as much.
Seriously, I don't see the Spurs emphasize forcing baseline any more. They did that when they had two big men waiting back there. Pop doesn't seem to believe in that any more.
I beg to differ. I'm sort of disappointed in your take on this Shoogar. As much basketball as you watch, including Spurs basketball, I'm surprised you don't see how they still force baseline.
yep, they still do that
They may go through the motions, but the number of times teams drive down Broadway against the Spurs now seems to be just as much as any other team in the league.
Yeah, but the problem is they no longer have a rim-protector to meet the penetrator. Oh Duncan can occasionally get a block or change a shot, but the erosion of is defensive skills, and the retirement of Bowen, have precipitated the Spurs defensive decline.
hill needs to go
You have no argument from me about the defensive deficiencies of the Spurs. The question of the thread is about defensive assignments on the Battier 3 play.
The Spurs trapped on the ball a lot in this game using the player that is 1 pass away from the man with the ball. If the play called for TP to blitz him, then TP did what he was supposed to do. However, normally when they are playing straight-up after a switch, the Spurs aren't supposed to leave their man if they are 1 pass away.
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