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  1. #51
    Because I choose to. Neo.'s Avatar
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    But yeah Stern assigning Dan Crawford to ref tons of Mavs games and Joe Crawford to ref tons of Spurs games is more than him being careless. He does it intentionally because he's an egomaniac who wants to send the message that he knows all about the allegations and doesn't give a .
    Pretty much. If suddenly he doesnt assign Dan C to Mavs games or Joe C to Spurs games, it looks like he is admitting that he has been ing with the league, and looks every bit as bad, if not worse than it would be for him to keep assigning them to do their games.

  2. #52
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    he tells spurs fans the refs robbed tim duncan of rings because san antonio is a small market, then shortly after he tells suns fans nunez rigged the san antonio series against them in 2007. Notice how the two don't line up? He plays whatever end of the spectrum he can to spark as much ref controversy as possible among fans.
    duncan (supposed to be in caps)

  3. #53
    Robert Horry mode ohmwrecker's Avatar
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    He tells Spurs fans the refs robbed Tim Duncan of rings because San Antonio is a small market, then shortly after he tells Suns fans Nunez rigged the San Antonio series against them in 2007. Notice how the two don't line up? He plays whatever end of the spectrum he can to spark as much ref controversy as possible among fans.
    Anyone who seriously uses anything that Tim Donaghy says as an argument is an automatic fail.

  4. #54
    Fuck Stern sefant77's Avatar
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    Its not 1-17, its 2-16

    WOOHOOOO WE HAVE A CHANCE

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    Veteran Isitjustme?'s Avatar
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    Remember when Donaghy had to prove these allegations and he the bed?

  6. #56
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Its not 1-17, its 2-16

    WOOHOOOO WE HAVE A CHANCE
    You too, Sef?

    I thought better of ya.

  7. #57
    Because I choose to. Neo.'s Avatar
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    Anyone who seriously uses anything that Tim Donaghy says as an argument is an automatic fail.
    I think its hard to completely dismiss everything he says. I'm sure there is some stuff that is quite exaggerated and bullcrap on his part, while there is plenty of truth to some that he says/wrote as well. Just too much coincedence in some aspects.

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    Veteran Isitjustme?'s Avatar
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    Studies have shown Donaghy was full of .

  9. #59
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    Pretty much. If suddenly he doesnt assign Dan C to Mavs games or Joe C to Spurs games, it looks like he is admitting that he has been ing with the league, and looks every bit as bad, if not worse than it would be for him to keep assigning them to do their games.
    I don't think taking precaution would mean he was admitting that everything was true, though I guess some people might spin it that way.

  10. #60
    NT? more like SO i said
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    If Mav fans would actually look at that list of games that Danny C officiated, they'd realize a lot of them were blowouts in which we were thoroughly outplayed

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    Anyone who seriously uses anything that Tim Donaghy says as an argument is an automatic fail.
    I agree completely.

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    I don't think taking precaution would mean he was admitting that everything was true, though I guess some people might spin it that way.
    It wouldn't neccesarily mean that, but if he had to choose between some people thinking hes giving up and admitting defeat, or by still scheduling those refs just to scoff peoples accusations that he is rigging games, he would do and is doing the latter.

  13. #63
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    I asked Donaghey about Crawford tonight on his Facebook page....he replied

    Tim Donaghy wrote: "I just posted about it. It is going to look very bad for the NBA if Portland wins this game."
    o spencer!

  14. #64
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    Quit your whining...... Have faith in our boys and stop
    ing about refs

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    I agree completely.
    You're such a reject All of society laughs at gots such
    as yourself

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    If Mav fans would actually look at that list of games that Danny C officiated, they'd realize a lot of them were blowouts in which we were thoroughly outplayed
    Eight games were decided by 5 points or less, and five of those were decided by three points or less. Seven games were decided by 10+.

    I'm not trying to make any pre-game excuses, if the Mavs lose today it will most likely have more to do with their terrible guard play than the refs. I just hate how we keep drawing this .

  17. #67
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    Quit your whining...... Have faith in our boys and stop
    ing about refs
    Mavs will lose this series and Crawford will not let us win this game.

  18. #68
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    Mavs will lose this series and Crawford will not let us win this game.
    Now you're insulted. Win or lose you're covered.

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    G has no right to comment in threads pertaining to officiating. The Lakers have benefitted from Stern's minions more than any other club in league history.

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    Eight games were decided by 5 points or less, and five of those were decided by three points or less. Seven games were decided by 10+.

    I'm not trying to make any pre-game excuses, if the Mavs lose today it will most likely have more to do with their terrible guard play than the refs. I just hate how we keep drawing this .
    bump Fat redneck gets owned again.

  21. #71
    Robert Horry mode ohmwrecker's Avatar
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    bump Fat redneck gets owned again.
    Wrong. If anything that post concedes the point that Crawford's role in those Mavericks losses is diminished and greatly exaggerated by Mavfan.

  22. #72
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    I say the mavs lose a close one. I think this series is going 7.

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    Cuban is a smart m'efer ...by pointing out that Mavs record with Crawford reffing. Now they will be EXTRA nice to the Mavs ...

    Now the Blazers will get screwed again tonight ... NBA basketball where AMAZING happens ...

  24. #74
    bohica! Greg Oden's Avatar
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    Cuban is a smart m'efer ...by pointing out that Mavs record with Crawford reffing. Now they will be EXTRA nice to the Mavs ...

    Now the Blazers will get screwed again tonight ... NBA basketball where AMAZING happens ...
    again? You're implying they've been screwed so far, which is false.

  25. #75
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    http://www.basketball-reference.com/blog/?p=9295

    http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...ve-unique-past

    The Mavericks are 4-14 AGAINST THE SPREAD in playoff games refereed by Crawford since 2001 compared to 47-41-1 vs. the spread in all other playoff games in that span (according to information from Covers.com).

    The reason this is important is that the spread is essentially one of the best ways to look at what a team is expected to do in a certain game. Historically, the spread has been shown to be an accurate predictor of what happens in a game – that is, teams are generally .500 against the spread over large samples of games. Therefore, the fact that the Mavericks seem to underperform compared to expectations (as proxied by the spread) in games reffed by Crawford is possibly more compelling evidence than the 2-16 overall record.

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