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    Discovery Makes Fuel Cells ‘Orders of Magnitude Cheaper’

    By Chuck Squatriglia Email Author
    April 22, 2011 |
    2:15 pm |
    Categories: Alt Fuel, EVs and Hybrids

    One of the biggest issues with hydrogen fuel cells, aside from the lack of fueling infrastructure, is the high cost of the technology. Fuel cells use a lot of platinum, with is frightfully expensive and one reason we’ll pay $50,000 or so for the hydrogen cars automakers say we’ll see in 2015.

    That might soon change. Researchers at Los Alamos National Laboratory have developed a platinum-free catalyst in the cathode of a hydrogen fuel cell that uses carbon, iron and cobalt. That could make hydrogen fuel cells “two to three orders of magnitude cheaper,” the lab says.

    Although the discovery means we could see hydrogen fuel cells in a wide variety of applications, it could have the biggest implications for automobiles.

    Despite the auto industry’s focus on hybrids, plug-in hybrids and battery electric vehicles — driven in part by the Obama Administration’s love of cars with cords — several automakers remain convinced hydrogen fuel cells are the best alternative to internal combustion.

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    How is Los Alamos financed?



    http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/04...tories+2%29%29

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    Meh.

    the key is finding a catalyst that will at least inhibit the oxidation of atmospheric nitrogen during the combustion of hydrogen.

    this game of hide-the-hydrogen is always going to be cost prohibitive.

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    these fkn tossers are just wankers who want there money back from the RND they poured into it and forcing this down our pockets...gtfo when the govt already allows 150-200% allowable deductions when companies spend money on RND....

    so whats wrong with the we got now electric hybrid cars and ...

    we might as all well go invest in 4 horses and a carriage...

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    these fkn tossers are just wankers who want there money back from the RND they poured into it and forcing this down our pockets...gtfo when the govt already allows 150-200% allowable deductions when companies spend money on RND....

    so whats wrong with the we got now electric hybrid cars and ...

    we might as all well go invest in 4 horses and a carriage...
    I'll bet four horses cause a larger greenhouse effect than new cars do for the same distances.

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    "electric hybrid cars"

    battery life and the complexity of two power plants. sucky concept no matter how cool the engineering.

    We got 40+ mpg clean diesels now.

    If UCA were really serious, transport fuel would be taxed into the $8/gal range. The Human-Americans would get off their fat, decrepit asses and quit wasting oil.

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    Five business models to boost electric cars



    http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20...=2547-1_3-0-20

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    Let's see how fast the Oil Companies kill this one...

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    From Care2

    "At every turn, NADA has tried to thwart strong fuel efficiency and global warming pollution standards for new vehicles:

    When the Supreme Court directed the Environmental Protection Agency to set vehicle standards, NADA urged Congress to overturn the Supreme Court's decision.

    When California and 14 other states tried to adopt clean car standards, NADA sued them.

    When polluters challenged clean air provisions, NADA jumped right in to support them."

    Greed is good (for the greedy), no matter how bad for everybody else.

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    Rising Gas Prices Expected To Increase Exxon’s Earnings By More Than 50%

    http://thinkprogress.org/2011/04/25/big-oil-2010/

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    Any of you right-wing dumb s think Wall St, as investors in oilcos AND commodity speculators, aren't in on rigging this game, sucking $Bs out of Human-Americans' pockets?

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    Imagine that. Profits rise. Shocking. Did the margins increase? Nope. Still about 8 cents per dollar spent. An 8 point margin doesn't seem extravagant. But it's easy to be outraged because 8% of a trillion dollars is waaaaay more than 8% of a billion dollars.

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    I'm not outraged by margins, I'm outraged by C-As rigging the commodities casino to suck wealth from H-As.

    BigPharma's are the real outrageous margins. Watch them rig the patents scam as several big blockbuster patents expire in the next 2 years.

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    I'm with you on the pharma crusade.

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    Gfy

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    Some people can't take yes for an answer.

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    Mornin, sunshine.

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