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    unless your a meteorologists apparently...

    ...then its 2, if it indeed 2, and 0, assuming this is a 0 type occurance, 1, if we are feeling the full effects of 1, and 2, as long as 2 lasts long enough....is 2012...but not always....

    ...what a joke....

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    But La Niña isn't to blame for the recent severe weather affecting the Northeast. Winter weather for these regions is often driven not by La Niña but by large-scale weather patterns over the U.S., the northern Atlantic Ocean and the Arctic. These are often short-term, and are generally predictable only a week or so in advance. They are the culprits responsible for the dip in temperatures and e in snow storms in the Midwest and Northeast.

    In addition to extreme rainfall, La Niña can lead to drought conditions. Currently in East Africa, it has caused drier-than-usual weather, sparking food-security concerns in areas lacking irrigation, including parts of Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia and Tanzania. Parts of South America, Asia and the southern U.S. may also see lower rainfall for the first quarter of 2011.

    Since 1950, the world has experienced six major La Niña events, wreaking havoc in countries around the world. In 2000, for example, floods associated with La Niña affected 400,000 people in southern Africa, caused at least 96 deaths and left 32,000 homeless.

    La Niña conditions typically persist for 9 to 12 months, peaking sometime during the end of the year. But 2010 was a lively year for climate scientists: For the first four months of this year, El Niño conditions prevailed in the tropical Pacific, but that quickly changed, and by June, a La Niña pattern had emerged.

    "Last year's transition from El Niño to La Niña was about the most sudden we've ever had," Barnston said. "When we had rapid flips like this in the past, we sometimes ended up having a two-year La Niña, such as right after the El Niño episodes of 1972 to 1973 and 1997 to 1998."

    Barnston cautions that the likelihood of this happening with the current La Niña is unknown. "Even if we do have a second year of La Niña developing in northern summer 2011, we expect at least a brief return to neutral conditions from May to July of 2011."
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    Yes..... it's ALL la Nina as Manny said...




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    Since when is Texas in the Northeast? Are you really this ing stupid? We're talking about a drought in Texas and you talk about snowstorms in the North East?

    Good lord.

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    What? So TBH is never wrong?



    So to be honest is never wrong?

    What, the, ???

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    Only time will tell....but West TX does not avg much yearly rainfall in a normal year....

    ...my feeling is we are witnessing both the effects of La Nina around the equator and shifting polar wind in the northern hemisphere because of melting polar cap...
    You're a ing idiot. Thats my gut feeling. First it was all climate change now its maybe La Nina (props on at least getting the name right). My gut feeling tells me that you don't know anything about the subject and instead of just saying that and learning you choose to spew bull .

    Who do you think you're fooling?

    When NOAA issued a drought forecast for West Texas they didn't cite polar winds, melting ice caps, or any other bull you want to come up with. They cited the ENSO condition.

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    Since when is Texas in the Northeast? Are you really this ing stupid? We're talking about a drought in Texas and you talk about snowstorms in the North East?

    Good lord.
    Right....so weather phenomena in the same hemisphere are completely unrelated....

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    When NOAA issued a drought forecast for West Texas they didn't cite polar winds, melting ice caps, or any other bull you want to come up with. They cited the ENSO condition
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    Given that it didn't have any preconditions, I can see why...

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    Right....so weather phenomena in the same hemisphere are completely unrelated....
    They can be, yes. La Nina doesn't impact the NE. AMO blocks don't eally impact the southwest. Every time you decide to post you just post something wrong. Do yourself a favor and stop.

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    at TB sucking Manny's ...
    I already had shrimp for dinner, monkey.

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    In all my time on the political forum of spurstalk.com, I don't think I've ever witnessed anyone getting their asses handed to them the way Dan is getting it in this thread.

    Manny lit him up for two straight pages and Dan just keeps coming back for more, refusing to acknowledge the loss.

    It's almost as sad as starting a thread with "gonna be a long thread" in the le and then making sure of it by posting in it on your own for three pages........almost.


    I wonder if Dan and Boutons are pals in real life?

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    Wow...just wow. You need to change your name from NBAdan to WNBAdan you whiny . Now take your beatdown from this thread and step your game up for next time you try to take on a subject you know about.

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    What causes El Nino & La Nina and how often do the occur?
    Scientist don’t have an answer as to the cuase of El Nino’s and El Nina’s. But what is noticeable is the coincidental increase in the global warming phenomenon. Is this nurture or nature; with the increase of El Nino’s and the diminishing of La Nina’s, is human activities the cause of the increased El Nino’s? Or, are we just going through a normal long term warming trend that is caused by El nino? Scientists are busy gathering data and trying to put all the pieces of a very big puzzle into place. Also, depending on which side of the fence you sit on, there is no shortage of opinions.

    El Nino’s occur approximately every 3 to 5 years and can last from 6 months 2 over 2 years. Conversely La Nina’s occur in between the El Nino years and don’t last as long. As mentioned earlier going into the future these numbers could change, and the trend is for more frequent and longer lasting El Ninos.

    ENSO was such a great discovery for weather meteorologists in that they now can provide much more detailed and longer range weather forecasts.
    Link

    So, nobody knows why El Nino and La Nina are occurring with more or less frequency, except for Manny apparently...he has all the answers...
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    Wow...just wow. You need to change your name from NBAdan to WNBAdan you whiny . Now take your beatdown from this thread and step your game up for next time you try to take on a subject you know about.
    A maverick Troll?

    case closed.

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    They can be, yes. La Nina doesn't impact the NE.



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    Link

    So, nobody knows why El Nino and La Nina are occurring with more or less frequency, except for Manny apparently...he has all the answers...
    You quote a place that can't even spell cause correctly.

    Actually - they can't even get the ing names right. EL nina? WTF is that? You're right, we don't know the cause of El Ninas.
    http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/general/enso_faq/


    El Niño is an unusual warming of the tropical Pacific Ocean that occurs irregularly at about 3-6 year intervals in response to large scale weakenings of the trade winds that normally blow westward from South America toward Asia. Normally, the trade winds produce cool surface water in the eastern Pacific, through evaporation and the upwelling of colder water from below the surface. Simultaneously, they "corral" warm surface waters over in the far western Pacific. As the trade winds weaken, so does the containment of the warm water in the west and the maintenance of the coolness in the east. As a result, relatively warm water becomes ubiquitous all across the Pacific from New Guinea to South America. Although the immediate cause (wind weakening) is known and scientists have made much progress in understanding the phenomenon, the exact nature of the processes that govern its repe ive cycle are still not certain.
    Thats from 2003, btw. We know more about it even now.

    Why do El Niño and La Niña occur?

    El Niño and La Niña are naturally occurring phenomena that result from interactions between the ocean surface and the atmosphere over the tropical Pacific. Changes in the ocean surface temperatures affect tropical rainfall patterns and atmospheric winds over the Pacific ocean, which in turn impact the ocean temperatures and currents. The El Nino and La Niña related patterns of tropical rainfall cause changes in the weather patterns around the globe.

    Show me the tropical rainfall patterns for a strong El Niño and La Nina.

    Show me areas typically affected by El Niño and La Nina.
    http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/product...ofaq.shtml#WHY

    Scientists from NOAA and other agencies use a variety of tools and techniques to monitor and forecast changes in the Pacific Ocean and the impact of those changes on global weather patterns. In the tropical Pacific Ocean, El Niño is detected by many methods, including satellites, moored buoys, drifting buoys, sea level analysis, and expendable buoys. Many of these ocean observing systems were part of the Tropical Ocean Global Atmosphere (TOGA) program, and are now evolving into an operational El Niño/Southern Oscillation (ENSO) observing system. NOAA also operates a research ship, the KA'IMIMOANA, which is dedicated to servicing the Tropical Ocean Atmosphere (TAO) bouy network component of the observing system.

    Large computer models of the global ocean and atmosphere, such as those at NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Prediction, part of the National Weather Service, use data from the ENSO observing system as input to predict El Niño. Other models are used for El Nino research, such as those at NOAA's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory and other non-government research ins utions.

    What is the relationship between El Niño/La Niña and global warming?

    The jury is still out on this. Are we likely to see more El Niño's because of global warming? Will they be more intense? These are questions facing the science community today. Research will help us separate the natural climate variability from any trends due to man's activities. If we cannot sort out what the natural variability does, then we cannot identify the "fingerprint" of global warming. We also need to look at the link between decadal changes in natural variability and global warming. At this time we cannot preclude the possibility of links but it is too early to say there is a definite link.
    So the site you use that can't be bothered to spell cause correctly also has incorrect information about ENSO. I'm shocked. No really. Shocked.

    The difference here is that I actually know about this stuff and I don't need to go to google to find information to post here. I know exactly where to look because I follow it.

    Next time google better.
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    You obviously don't know how to read those maps. The white that covers the NE? That means no change.




    Oh man, this is gold.

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    You came back to this thread just to post from a site that can't be bothered to proofread its work and then you post a graphic that doesn't say what you think it says. Holy crap thats awesome.

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    Do you see how the north east is completely white?

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    the SW.... INCLUDING TX is white too...nice try though..

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    Once again, you fail to read the damn maps correctly. If you'll look at the neutral mean, West Texas gets 0-2 days with over a half inch of rain in a normal year. Its pretty hard to get less than zero so of course its white.

    Now, anyone with a brain (and LOL @ you having a math degree and not understanding this. I'll never believe you have a math degree from ITT Tech at this point) can understand why it can still rain less and still not see a difference in the number of days when it rains more than half an inch when that number is already zero.

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    By all means, keep coming back for more punishment.

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    By all means, keep coming back for more punishment.
    He can't help himself. He's pathologically incapable of being wrong.

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    This is quickly becoming my favorite thread ever.

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    Bump for Dan (and Johnsmith)

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