"It wouldn't be fair to the team."

[mingus]

It says "we want to move Splitter" and "we don't want to move him for nothing". If they can/did get to playoffs without him, why have him out there killing his value? Other teams would balk at him right away with his FT doinking and clumsy offense. Keep him on the bench, get him in training and play him next season. Mid season comes around, if he's not doing really good, get something for him.

Also, Marc Gasol isn't the same player he was overseas. Tiago is.

You realize how ing dumb the reasons you gave were for not playing Splitter, right? Holy .

[Obstructed_View]

Well, okay then. Nice obstructed view.

You fail the second you have to ask such an idiotic, loaded question. It frankly doesn't deserve an honest answer because it's not an honest scenario.

There's absolutely nothing in Splitter's past to indicate that he couldn't be on the floor playing against Gasol in this series, and your TLDR breakdown doesn't change that one iota. Gasol doesn't play for the Spurs, and nobody can do anything about that. Unfortunately, Splitter doesn't play for the Spurs, and that's on one guy.

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WTF? You ask Solid D for an opinion? you want the company line, ask him...

Pop is a ing idiot. This team is going nowhere unless something magical happens tomorrow morning when they wake up....

I didn't ask him for an opinion. He still thinks the Spurs force baseline.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Could our defense be any worse with another 6'11 guy out there?

[TampaDude]

The average Euroleague game is about 3 times more intense, more physical, and better defense than the average regular season NBA game.

This ain't the regular season anymore. If you really think Euroleague is more intense and physical than the NBA playoffs, you ain't been watching, son.

[Genjuro]

Once again, no head to head. Splitter was a power forward at that time, not a center.

Splitter played center. He defended the power forward position against Akasvayu Girona back in that season because the 7-1 Gregor a was the most dangerous frontcourt player in that team, and happened to play PF. In the following season, Splitter did match up against Gasol.

It would be amazing how consistently wrong you are if you didn't do it on purpose just for the sake of entertaining us.

[InTheCrust]

Splitter played center. He defended the power forward position against Akasvayu Girona back in that season because the 7-1 Gregor a was the most dangerous frontcourt player in that team, and happened to play PF. In the following season, Splitter did match up against Gasol.

It would be amazing how consistently wrong you are if you didn't do it on purpose just for the sake of entertaining us.

[jsandiego]

We are not down 2-1 in this Series because our rookie center is not getting minutes. We are losing 2-1 because TP's offensive game has been unstable, and Manu missed Game 1. We played one of our worst games of the year in Game 3 and STILL almost won. We had the lead in Game 1 with a minute left.

Throwing a couple minutes Splitter's way is different than out-and-out replacing Bonner's spot in the rotation, which is what many seem to be implying should be done. You just don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[ALVAREZ6]

What if Dwight Howard decided to join the Spurs but missed training camp due to minor injuries. Would it also be fair to the team to have him ride the bench in the playoffs?


Kill yourself Greggory.

[TJastal]

I know you're just hypothesizing, but if this is actually his thought process, then he needs to be shot. This is not about a defensive system. This is about being able to single cover the post without getting destroyed. Splitter is the only big outside of Duncan who has any chance of playing adequate straight up defense on Gasol. His presence in tandem with Duncan would allow Duncan to slide over and cover Randolph. That would allow the Spurs to stay at home on the Grizzlies extremely limited perimeter players.

I have no confidence in Splitter getting a chance in game four. But I'm hoping that, since Pop basically went away from Blair in the second half and went to a three big rotation, he'll come to his senses and insert Splitter into the rotation.

He's had 85 games now to come to his senses

[Solid D]

Euro newb. His last name is pronounced Foo-tsh-ka

[Solid D]

He still thinks the Spurs force baseline.

Come on, OV. If newer members to SpursTalk think you are serious, you are just going to confuse them and do them a disservice.

[ElNono]

What if Dwight Howard decided to join the Spurs but missed training camp due to minor injuries. Would it also be fair to the team to have him ride the bench in the playoffs?

Kill yourself Greggory.

tbh, if Dwight Howard decided to join the Spurs I wouldn't give a if they lose to Memphis this season...

[Solid D]

I didn't ask him for an opinion.

Look, I gave DPG21920 my opinion because he asked for it. I actually like Tiago Splitter and he is likely going to prove to be worth his modest contract arrangement. I just think that he has limitations as a producer in crunch time. Eventually, Pop will give Tiago a chance to prove himself in the USA in key games. I would like to see him play tonight, in fact.

Must have missed when he was outplaying Marc Gasol overseas.

Numerous times.

This post right here needs actual support. "I heard" or "read it somewhere" is not good support for your post (guess).

You can do better. I've seen you do better.

[ChumpDumper]

Rage blinds posters to the fact that others may actually agree with them.

[lefty]

What if Dwight Howard decided to join the Spurs but missed training camp due to minor injuries. Would it also be fair to the team to have him ride the bench in the playoffs?


Kill yourself Greggory.

That's why I have switched teams

Phil Jackson would have played Splitter

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Look, I gave DPG21920 my opinion because he asked for it. I actually like Tiago Splitter and he is likely going to prove to be worth his modest contract arrangement. I just think that he has limitations as a producer in crunch time. Eventually, Pop will give Tiago a chance to prove himself in the USA in key games. I would like to see him play tonight, in fact.



This post right here needs actual support. "I heard" or "read it somewhere" is not good support for your post (guess).

You can do better. I've seen you do better.

I didn't say "I heard", nor did I say "I read it somewhere". It was posted on this forum. If you wish to refute it, use the search function. The thread is likely still active.

Meanwhile, the only thing more stupid than not playing Splitter because he missed training camp or because he's out of game shape (of course he is NOW), would be because someone thinks he might not be able to produce in crunch time based on a four year old write up from Draftexpress. Obviously Pop was going off that when he put Splitter in the first half of all those games Duncan missed only to leave him out of the game in the second half when the Spurs gave the games away.

[Solid D]

I didn't say "I heard", nor did I say "I read it somewhere". It was posted on this forum. If you wish to refute it, use the search function. The thread is likely still active.

Meanwhile, the only thing more stupid than not playing Splitter because he missed training camp or because he's out of game shape (of course he is NOW), would be because someone thinks he might not be able to produce in crunch time based on a four year old write up from Draftexpress. Obviously Pop was going off that when he put Splitter in the first half of all those games Duncan missed only to leave him out of the game in the second half when the Spurs gave the games away.

I just posted that write-up because it was recapping one of relatively few games where one could assert that Splitter was "outplaying" Marc Gasol. There was a game later the next season, in Nov. of 2007, where Tau played Girona and Gasol scored 19 and Splitter scored 13. You just have to substantiate. That's all I'm asking.

Secondly, my opinions of Splitter are not based on box scores or what someone at SpursTalk posted. They are based on what I've seen over the years. What's so difficult to understand about that?

[Obstructed_View]

My opinions of Splitter are based on his play for the Spurs this year, where he's been an excellent defender, has drawn fouls on both ends of the floor at a ridiculous rate, and has been, well, tall. Seems foolish to think he wouldn't have value playing ten minutes a game in this series.

I went and found the post for you. If it's incorrect, then I apologize for not verifying the numbers in it.

I think Splitter and Gasol had four major face-to-face games back in Spain.

Season 2006/07, Splitter was playing for Tau Vitoria, a team that led the regular season (ended up losing in semifinals against Barcelona), teaming up in the paint with Luis Scola, that season's MVP. Gasol was playing his first season for Akasvayu Girona (weak playoff team) on loan from Barcelona. It was his blossoming campaign after being in Ivanovic's doghouse back in Barcelona.

First game, in Vitoria: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB51080.php
- Splitter: 13 points (5/5 FG), 7 rebounds, 24 minutes.
- Gasol: 10 points (5/9 FG), 5 rebounds, 24 minutes.

Second game, in Girona: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB51229.php
- Splitter: 20 points (6/16 FG), 10 rebounds, 36 minutes.
- Gasol: 16 points (5/6 FG), 13 rebounds, 2 blocks, 29 minutes.

Season 2007/08, Scola leaves Tau, and Splitter remains as the team anchor in the paint as they win the ACB League. Gasol becomes the league's MVP and his team enters again in the playoffs for another early exit (of course Tau teams were much stronger than Akasvayu's).

First game, in Girona: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB52004.php
- Splitter: 14 points (6/11 FG), 9 rebounds, 30 minutes.
- Gasol: 10 points (3/11 FG), 4 rebounds, 28 minutes.

Second game, in Vitoria: http://www.acb.com/fichas/LACB52187.php
- Splitter: 13 points (4/8 FG), 4 rebounds, 24 minutes.
- Gasol: 19 points (9/13 FG), 4 rebounds, 5 assists, 2 blocks, 37 minutes.

For me it is obvious that Splitter should at least get a try on these series when Duncan is on the bench, particularly in the place of Blair, who looks extremely overwhelmed by the Grizzlies size.

[Josepatches_]

He said it's from watching him play overseas numerous times.

I don't agree with it entirely, but I haven't watched nearly as much as Solid probably.

I did and I don't agree.

I watched him a lot because he played all these years in my country.

He will be a big improvement and surely he could be as good as Marc gasol can be.Maybe not today or this year because he's out of rhythm but he can close the gap next year.

[Josepatches_]

Splitter played center. He defended the power forward position against Akasvayu Girona back in that season because the 7-1 Gregor a was the most dangerous frontcourt player in that team, and happened to play PF. In the following season, Splitter did match up against Gasol.

It would be amazing how consistently wrong you are if you didn't do it on purpose just for the sake of entertaining us.

True.

[ffadicted]

“He’s used to playing a lot of minutes and being a big part of what’s going on,” Popovich said. “That’s not happening for him right now, and I’m not in a position to give him 30 minutes to get him going. That’s not fair to him or to the whole group.”

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It means that he doesn't feel like he can play splitter big minutes and get good results, thus it's not fair to the team to bring them down.

In Pop I trust

[ALVAREZ6]

That's why I have switched teams

Phil Jackson would have played Splitter

'atta boy

[ALVAREZ6]

"It wouldn't be fair to the team."

I still can't believe you said this Greggory, do you really think everyone took that as a legitimate answer? You are such a gobbler. Have fun not playing Splitter and leading your #1 seed to a first round exit. If the Spurs lose, I'd like to hear your response on the same subject in the final game post game press conference:

It wouldn't have been fair to the team to advance.