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    It really is funny how close the Spurs were to being up 3-0 and sweeping the Grizz tonight even though 80% of the team has played like hot garbage. Grizz trolls are annoying and confident, but I think a nice dose of reality will be administered tonight. Parker is due.

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    It really is funny how close the Spurs were to being up 3-0 and sweeping the Grizz tonight even though 80% of the team has played like hot garbage. Grizz trolls are annoying and confident, but I think a nice dose of reality will be administered tonight. Parker is due.
    True.

    With or without Tiago if only TP had been playing at his level we could be up 2-1 at worst.

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    OKC has a much less talented front court than Memphis. Neither Ibaka or Perkins have a post game. Their backups are Nick Collison and Nazr Mohammed, neither has a post game either.
    Great point. I've been saying this is the reason OKC won't beat us. They have the frountcourt to match up defensively with other tall frontcourts, which we don't have, so their advantage is negated because their frontcourt has no offense, and stopping frontcourt players is our Spurs' biggest problem.

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    I agree. The Spurs will handle OKC, and I don't care if the Spurs "expend energy" going seven against Memphis. But if the Lakers want it, I definitely don't see the Spurs getting past them.
    The Lakers wanted it last night too. They're just not that good this season. I don't know they're getting out of the 2nd round, tbh

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    OKC has a much less talented front court than Memphis. Neither Ibaka or Perkins have a post game. Their backups are Nick Collison and Nazr Mohammed, neither has a post game either.
    OKC is not as tough a matchup for the Spurs as Memphis. Not just the size and physicality of the interior defenders, but the perimeter defense led by Conley, Allen and Battier is tougher than what OKC offers outside of Sefalosha.

    But to get back to the point of the thread, no single player is having a bigger impact on this series than Tony Parker. He was supposed to be a major advantage for the Spurs to counter the Memphis matchup advantages, and has instead been nothing short of a disadvantage. His inability to get to and finish at the rim, shoot a decent percentage from outside, handle the ball, run the offense, and create fastbreak opportunities is the major reason why the Spurs are not competing at a level anywhere close to that of during the regular season. He's doing nothing well. With Manu gimped and an older Tim Duncan, one would expect that Parker would even raise his level of play to meet the challenge. Very disappointing.

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    parker hopefully had a cold and is now full of energy for game tonight

    give him some fluid by

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    parker hopefully had a cold and is now full of energy for game tonight

    give him some fluid by

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    it was reported he had a cold against the suns last game of the season and his chest was burning

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    How long do colds last and how significantly do they affect you? Pussiest excuse I've heard.

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    Although I agree Tony is the main liability and if he was playing nearly close to his potential the Spurs would be in much better shape, he is not the only reason for this debacle.
    One of the main reasons why the Spurs had such an outstading regular season are the role players.
    So far in this series, Bonner has been a non factor, Neal not only is not hitting any shots, but he is totally out of control. Hill is ok, but not really that good and Novak and Splitter are not even playing.
    At this point it is pretty obvious that unless Manu & Tim have stellar games and Tony chips in, there is nothing further than a first round exit for this team.

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    Although I agree Tony is the main liability and if he was playing nearly close to his potential the Spurs would be in much better shape, he is not the only reason for this debacle.
    One of the main reasons why the Spurs had such an outstading regular season are the role players.
    So far in this series, Bonner has been a non factor, Neal not only is not hitting any shots, but he is totally out of control. Hill is ok, but not really that good and Novak and Splitter are not even playing.
    At this point it is pretty obvious that unless Manu & Tim have stellar games and Tony chips in, there is nothing further than a first round exit for this team.
    Thing is, this is completely expected from our mentally weak bench players (Neal is the exception in my opinion, I expect more from him). Bonner, obviously don't expect much from him, we all know what his limitations are. Neal does need to step up, and I just don't know why so many of our guards are playing like out of control heads. In summary, inconsistent bench play in the playoffs was pretty much an expectation going in for me, and all of the big 3 need to bring it every night having been there and done that several times together. There just is no excuse, TP is playing like a rookie.

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    Alvarez, evreybody agrees on the fact that Tony isn't near the level he's expected to be, no need to argue on it.

    But could you at least admit that the Grizz aren't playing TP as if he was a rookie?

    I mean that they are doing a terrific job at denying TP his way to the basket and are throwing 2 or 3 guys at him each time...

    Conley is doing a decrent job, but he isn't the reason TP is playing so bad, their big and the way they pack in the paint has more to do with it.

    He should involve his teamates better but memphis is doing a great job at cutting the passing lanes, he obviously fear the TOs so often go one on one instead of sharing the ball.

    My point is that, as disapointing as Tony may be, we shouldn't underestimate Memphis job on him.
    He is obviously the spur player they fear the most and is the center of their attention, even more than manu, becaus eof his speed and afficiency at the rim.

    It reminds me the job the Lakers did on him in the PO after TP distroyed them (most of the time the 1 or 2 game of the series). It's very hard for ANY PLAYER to deal with such a D, I don't think there is another team in the league that plays so tough/physical on D...

    TBH a rookie Tony Parker would have disappear and at least, he's still working his ass off...

    Let's hope his jumper is back, he has to make them repect it, if not it's over...
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    Where's Speedy Claxton when we need him !

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