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    also yesterday. farmville Va


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    why couldn't this have gone over the south oklahoma mavericks practice facility?

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    The significant tornado (chance of >EF2 tornadoes) index for yesterday registered the highest readings since the index was created.

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    Tuscaloosa/Birmingham tornado

    A large wedge tornado tracked across Tuscaloosa County, Alabama, including the southern and eastern portions of Tuscaloosa around 5:10 p.m. CDT and continued northeast.[9] Debris from the tornado was reported to be falling from the sky across Birmingham over 20 miles away in Jefferson County. Television cameras, including a skycam operated by local ABC affiliate WBMA-LP/WCFT/WJSU, captured the mile-wide tornado as it moved east-northeast across the western and northern suburbs of Birmingham around 6:00 p.m. CDT.[20] Initial reports indicate significant structural damage and a mile to 1½ mile wide damage path. The overall death toll is uncertain but initial reports from Tuscaloosa and Birmingham indicate at least 32 people were dead and over 600 injured in the Tuscaloosa area and at least 10 people confirmed dead from Concord and Pleasant Grove.[21]

    Rick Reichmuth, a Fox News meteorologist, says the tornado was probably an EF-5 and may have stayed on the ground for more than 4 hours, cutting a 170-mile path of destruction across Alabama and Georgia.[22]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late-Ap...ingham_tornado

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    Im pretty sure that guy/gal pooped their pants.

    If they didnt, they should have.

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    Confirmed EF5 on the enhanced Fujita scale, according to wikipedia. Can't say I'm surprised. When was the last EF5 tornado? 2007?

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    Yep, 2007 in Canada of all places to have an F5.

    There were 0 F5/EF5 tornadoes from 2000-2010 except for the one that hit Greensburg, Kansas.

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    Manny, do you have any LI figures from yesterday?

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    Oops. Apparently there was another EF5 tornado in 2008, in New Hartford, Iowa.

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    Death toll is up to 42. Sad day for those in the US. How many of these were preventable just by people paying attention to their weather reports?
    There was probably a little of that, but the wind was so strong with this, it cleaned entire buildings off their foundation.

    I watched a stream on ABC 33/40 from Birmingham (those guys were excellent, hopefully many in that area were watching). Before that thing even hit Tuscaloosa, they were telling people that the only way to ensure they would survive was to get underground in a basement or storm shelter, and if not to put as many walls between them and the outside of their homes/business as necessary.

    When you're in a brick / concrete structure and it gets flattened, there's not much you could have done other than get underground, or get in a car and drive away.

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    Manny, do you have any LI figures from yesterday?
    check the first video that guy posted and search their videos for f5 they film it under a bridge as it goes over them

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    check the first video that guy posted and search their videos for f5 they film it under a bridge as it goes over them
    .... not sure what that has to do with the question, but okay.

    Edit: Ah yes, that's Reed Timmer. The Tornadoesvidoes.net folks are perhaps the most famous storm chasers on the planet. They are responsible for the Storm Chasers show that airs every year on Discovery. Is that the video where they hide under the overpass?
    Last edited by Cry Havoc; 04-28-2011 at 12:28 PM.

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    There was probably a little of that, but the wind was so strong with this, it cleaned entire buildings off their foundation.

    I watched a stream on ABC 33/40 from Birmingham (those guys were excellent, hopefully many in that area were watching). Before that thing even hit Tuscaloosa, they were telling people that the only way to ensure they would survive was to get underground in a basement or storm shelter, and if not to put as many walls between them and the outside of their homes/business as necessary.

    When you're in a brick / concrete structure and it gets flattened, there's not much you could have done other than get underground, or get in a car and drive away.
    Its almost always awareness - or lack there of rather - that causes the deaths. If you know the system is coming and you live in a structure that is terrible you can leave. In fact thats what you're supposed to do if you're in a mobile home etc.

    Which is why the NWS is so important. Those television stations don't formulate their own data, they simply distribute what the NWS gives them and tells them. Over 200 people died yesterday but that would have been FAR worse without the NWS.

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    Yep, 2007 in Canada of all places to have an F5.
    ya that one in Canada was monstrous. These guys were crazy enough to catch it on film


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    272. A tragic day.

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    Whats ed up is that the 1974 outbreak still won't be surpassed.

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    Whats ed up is that the 1974 outbreak still won't be surpassed.
    I wouldn't be so sure, the death toll has been rising consistently throughout the day, unfortunately.

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    It won't surpass it. The death toll might but the outbreak itself won't. The 1974 outbreak was larger and its tornadoes were certainly underreported compared to today's reports. I found out recently while doing a severe weather analysis project that storm reports prior to the mid 80s are just much rarer. Now we have a hard time missing storm events unless they happen in sparsely populated areas and even then we usually do ent them due to remote sensing.

    The prelim reports I saw were with 138 tornadoes but that amount will likely come down by about 20 or so. 1974's outbreak had nearly 150 confirmed reports.

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    There are reports that in some of these storms people even died in their basements. THAT is ed up man.

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    Confirmed EF5 on the enhanced Fujita scale, according to wikipedia. Can't say I'm surprised. When was the last EF5 tornado? 2007?
    No EF5 has been confirmed as of yet by the NWS as far as I can tell.

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    No EF5 has been confirmed as of yet by the NWS as far as I can tell.
    It was up on the wikipedia page as an EF5, however it has since been retracted. I think they were going on a quote by a city official who was talking about the F5 damage. But I doubt he has the knowledge to make such a claim.

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    There are reports that in some of these storms people even died in their basements. THAT is ed up man.
    Yeah, I've heard of this happening if the building collapses into the basement and they're hit by heavy debris. Most likely they weren't under anything sturdy or didn't take anything with them to protect from debris. Horrible situation, but you absolutely cannot take mile wide or F3+ tornadoes with any kind of levity. Protect yourself/your family as much as possible, everything else is secondary.

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    There's a common misconception that a wide tornado is a strong one. Wedge tornadoes can be quite large and still easily be EF1-EF2. In fact many are.

    Here is one from yesterday

    ...EF1 TORNADO IN NEWTON...MORGAN AND GREENE COUNTIES...

    A NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STORM SURVEY TEAM DETERMINED THAT AN EF1
    TORNADO WITH WINDS OF 105 MPH OCCURRED EARLY THURSDAY MORNING. IT
    TOUCHED DOWN 1 MILE WEST OF NORWOOD IN NEWTON COUNTY AND LIFTED 6
    MILES WEST OF GREENSBORO IN GREENE COUNTY. IT HAD A PATH LENGTH OF
    25 MILES AND A WIDTH OF A HALF OF A MILE. A SHOPPING CENTER IN
    MADISON HAD A TIN ROOF PEELED BACK. THOUSANDS OF TREES WERE DOWNED.
    APPROXIMATELY 50 STRUCTURES SUSTAINED DAMAGE FROM DOWNED TREES. ONE
    TRAILER HAD PART OF THE BACK RIPPED OFF. TWO TRAILERS SUSTAINED TREE
    DAMAGE. THREE OTHER TRAILERS THAT WERE NOT TIED DOWN WERE FLIPPED.
    The only confirmed EF4 so far was also a half mile wide, but it was obviously far more violent and destructive.

    Also people think that the tornado is just the funnel and that irks me a lot too. Look at some of the videos and look at all the debris OUTSIDE of the actual funnel. The core of that storm isn't just the funnel, and thats why you see other vorticies flying around the exterior. Even if tornadic rotating winds don't extend that far out you can still get extremely strong RFD straightline winds in that area that are just as strong.

    Some of the people shooting those videos are extremely re ed. I think viewing them from a distance is great, but too many people want to be Reed Timmer and pretty soon someone is going to die because of it.

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