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    Do African Americans suffer this way in Europe? If not why?

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    Its also one thing to move on from this if its not an ongoing situation but one look at our judicial system and racism within the law making process proves this is obviously not the case. There's also the public perception of African Americans.

    In other words I would be more willing to address cultural issues aside from the systematic ones if the systematic ones weren't still so damn rampant. How do you tell African Americans to get their together when the system is still ing them?

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    When white women get paid 25%+ less that white men for the same job, why should blacks (still) hold any hope for "equal opportunity" for a comfortable, self-respecting life in the wealthiest country in the history of the universe?

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    Do African Americans suffer this way in Europe? If not why?
    It's funny, but the UK appears to be miles ahead of us in addressing this. Seems like most of the really revealing research is based in the UK.

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    Eh, thats not funny to me or unexpected for that matter. I've come to expect Europe to pretty much beat the US on everything outside of having a huge military.

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    When white women get paid 25%+ less that white men for the same job, why should blacks (still) hold any hope for "equal opportunity" for a comfortable, self-respecting life in the wealthiest country in the history of the universe?
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...504707048.html

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    In other words I would be more willing to address cultural issues aside from the systematic ones if the systematic ones weren't still so damn rampant. How do you tell African Americans to get their together when the system is still ing them?

    Bill Cosby does it all the time. So does Chris Rock.

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    I've come to expect Europe to pretty much beat the US on everything outside of having a huge military.


    Well, they are cracking down on racist like singing Kung Fu Fighting in front of Chinese people.

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    Bill Cosby does it all the time. So does Chris Rock.
    Are there any prominent African Americans who do the opposite? Of course there are. Are these 2 elected figures making laws? No.

    Well, they are cracking down on racist like singing Kung Fu Fighting in front of Chinese people.
    I have no idea what you're talking about but I also really don't care.

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    Well, they are cracking down on racist like singing Kung Fu Fighting in front of Chinese people.

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    Self oppression is such a .

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    "Bill Cosby does it all the time. So does Chris Rock"

    both insanely wealthy, now.

    As Chris Rock jokes:

    "There's not white man alive that would change places with me, AND I'M RICH!"

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    How do you tell African Americans to get their together when the system is still ing them?


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    Well, they are cracking down on racist like singing Kung Fu Fighting in front of Chinese people.
    PC at it's finest

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    Oh - impeccable logic. No, you're not an idiot.

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    Oh - impeccable logic. No, you're not an idiot.
    Ah so you're dismissing where he came from to where he is now? ???

    Pssssst: it's about an actual person that's really alive and didnt buy in to self oppression. Didnt think you'd recognize Chris Gardner if I put his pic up.

    Don't get mad cuz you didn't want anyone to actually answer your question
    Geez you're so full of . Self oppress away, Manny. It's what it do

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    Do African Americans suffer this way in Europe? If not why?
    What's a good equivalent in Europe to the sort of "gangsta" subculture that exists in lower-class US areas? Chavs? Might be interesting to see info on that.

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    What's a good equivalent in Europe to the sort of "gangsta" subculture that exists in lower-class US areas? Chavs? Might be interesting to see info on that.
    The educational case studies I've read deal primarily with Black people from the Caribbean. A different subset from the US I would think.

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    Ah so you're dismissing where he came from to where he is now? ???

    Pssssst: it's about an actual person that's really alive and didnt buy in to self oppression. Didnt think you'd recognize Chris Gardner if I put his pic up.

    Don't get mad cuz you didn't want anyone to actually answer your question
    Geez you're so full of . Self oppress away, Manny. It's what it do
    Yeah, crack cocaine laws are textbook self opression. Yeah, theren't aren't huge numbers of African Americans rotting in jails but if there were they would be "self oppressed".

    I'm not mad at you anymore than I'd be mad at a chimp for not understanding concepts beyond their mental capabilities.

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    What's a good equivalent in Europe to the sort of "gangsta" subculture that exists in lower-class US areas? Chavs? Might be interesting to see info on that.
    The educational case studies I've read deal primarily with Black people from the Caribbean. A different subset from the US I would think.
    Man I just realized I put African Americans when talking about black people in Europe. Genius.

    To address your point though, I don't know, LnG. I would pretty much look at minority communities in general though and see if they have the same type of educational problems and/or crime problems. However, seeing as the crime problems here are in huge part due to our stupid legislation I am 99% sure the UK's black population isn't overly jailed due to crack cocaine.

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    What's a good equivalent in Europe to the sort of "gangsta" subculture that exists in lower-class US areas? Chavs? Might be interesting to see info on that.
    Muslims in France tbh.

    They're way more progressive than the U.S., what with their veiling laws and whatnot.

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    Algerians/North Africans tbh...

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    Also Turks in Germany. Germans love them some Turks.

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    Do African Americans suffer this way in Europe? If not why?
    No they do not, because they wouldn't be African Americans in Europe.

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    The argument isn't about new immigrants and xenophobia. African Americans didn't arrive yesterday.

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