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    So this is how it feels like to be beaten by the Spurs of years past.

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    I bet you could find almost nearly the same quotes on Suns boards at the end of every year in the mid 2000s.

    When you rely on outscoring the other guy, you always end up looking for excuses.
    Great post.

    They were outplayed, out-coached, out-hustled and looked incredibly inexperienced during crunch time of every game. They did everything they could to give game 5 away with turnovers.

    The better team won. And one coach manhandled the other.

    Anyone saying Memphis isn't the more talented team, is in denial. "Potential" talent has never meant if it never materializes.

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    Last time I checked, I can't think of a championship team whose best front court player is 35 years old. The rest of the front court was just not that good. The NBA is a young man's game. That's just a fact.

    The Spurs did an amazing job in the regular season, but their lack of size along with the injuries caught up with them.

    This situation won't get fixed in an offseason.

    Big changes are on the way, and they may be painful.

    For all those folks who want to put the Spurs in the same boat as the 07 Mavericks, its not the same. The Mavericks were healthy and a lot younger at the time. Their top guys were all in their basketball prime.

    It's clear the Spurs were past their prime as players on the whole. It's been a great 14 year run with Duncan. There may be a 15th year with this core, but the results will probably not be pretty.

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    Time to do a complete rebuild. Offer Tim the option of either staying for the rebuild or a buyout if he wants to be on a contender. Trade Manu for someone who can be a good piece for the future, see what you can get for Tony but don't pull the trigger unless it's a nice package, and then give Bonner and Jefferson all the minutes they want to lead the team to a 30 win season and the chance to draft one of the great crop of forwards coming out in the 2012 draft. I really hope this is a 20-win (or equivalent in the case of a shortened season) team next year; there is no reason to screw around and procrastinate with rebuilding this team.
    You just made me want to kill myself. I have never disliked any two players more than I do these two and that includes anyone during the Robinson era. These two were the beginning of the end and I can't imagine how it's going to be the next few years when the Spurs can't trade their asses and have to suffer through the contracts. thanks for opening my eyes to that reality.

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    Time to do a complete rebuild. Offer Tim the option of either staying for the rebuild or a buyout if he wants to be on a contender. Trade Manu for someone who can be a good piece for the future, see what you can get for Tony but don't pull the trigger unless it's a nice package, and then give Bonner and Jefferson all the minutes they want to lead the team to a 30 win season and the chance to draft one of the great crop of forwards coming out in the 2012 draft. I really hope this is a 20-win (or equivalent in the case of a shortened season) team next year; there is no reason to screw around and procrastinate with rebuilding this team.
    +10000000000000000000000000000000000000

    I would hate seeing Tim, Manu, and Parker leave, but it's for the better. I don't see how they could win another championship unless we somehow get a big time post player. Even though I bleed silver and black, I would like to see Tim and Manu win another championship with a contender because the front office owes them that! They owe them that because they never got them legit help after 07!

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    Cleaning house is easier said than done. It will be at least 2-3 years of bad basketball before the arrow is pointing up again (if they are fortunate).

    This team has probably one or two assets other teams would want along with the 29th pick in the draft.

    You need lottery picks to really get better. The Spurs haven't had one since Duncan. It's a miracle they have been so consistently compe ive for so long.

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    They took it to us in the paint. If it wasn't the frontline, it was a back cut. I love that style of basketball, and that's why it was hard to see it executed against us. Well done Grizz

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    Wow. If people truly believe that 8th seed Memphis with marginal talent was betterthan the Spurs you need your head examined. They deserve all the credit for pounding the Spurs but they were not the better team, they simply played better.

    This isn't the Suns losing to a championship team. This is the I have never won a playoff game 8th seed without their most talented player not ting the bed lke the Spurs. MEM gets and deserves the credit, they aren't better.

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    I agree. Despite the loss I'm still proud of the Spurs. They fought until the bitter end. The Grizzlies were just the more talented and tougher team.

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    There is a difference between trying and trying your best, playing your hardest. The Spurs were even better playing half-assed and out of their game. It came down to the fact that the Spurs were about as aggressive as a middle school girls team. They lacked the edge, the "if you hit me, I'm hitting back harder" mentality they needed. With the exception of game 4, all of these games were close and of the Spurs had the balls to hit back and turn those tick-tac foul calls into "don't come near the rim" fouls then the Spurs would have won in 5.

    That is my number 1 gripe with the NBA today. It's too clean. People think "cheap shots" and fights shouldn't allowed. Basketball is a contact sport. Not one player from the 60s-80s could play in today's NBA because the refs would foul them out or eject them in minutes. It's a damn shame that the way Memphis plays is "physical."
    The Spurs lacked the edge and aggressiveness needed to win because Memphis dominated those areas. Their defense forced the Spurs into horrible offense. Tony, Manu and Tim "tried their best." Memphis tried their best. And their best shut down the Spurs. That's the advantage of having a great defense. You keep opposing teams from playing their best.

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    Yeah, they were the better team, from coaching to their scrubs.

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    Let one thing be clear, the Spurs did not leave it all on the floor in this series. Memphis won because they wanted it more and defended better.

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    Tim, Tony, Manu, Neal, Dice, and Splitter (even with the limited minutes he got) gave it all they have......

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    Wow. If people truly believe that 8th seed Memphis with marginal talent was betterthan the Spurs you need your head examined. They deserve all the credit for pounding the Spurs but they were not the better team, they simply played better.

    This isn't the Suns losing to a championship team. This is the I have never won a playoff game 8th seed without their most talented player not ting the bed lke the Spurs. MEM gets and deserves the credit, they aren't better.
    +1

    The spurs had the better team, better personnel. Hollins just plain outcoached Popovich, and used his personnel more wisely.

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    Memphis record after Dec 31: 32-18
    San Antonio record after Dec 31: 33-17

    Doesn't look like such a huge talent differential there.

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    Spurs had no answer for Randolph. He was the difference in the series.

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    The Grizzlies were the better team. Can't win a series, let alone a le, without a good defense. Unlike the championship Spurs teams of the past, the 2011 Spurs had no defense. They had no shot...none...at #5 the way they were playing this year.

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    I know it sucks guys, but the Spurs overall didn't give a great effort and they choked. It sucks, but it's the truth.

    I am very sad in the moment, but there's always tomorrow and I look forward to the franchises response.

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    Memphis record after Dec 31: 32-18
    San Antonio record after Dec 31: 33-17

    Doesn't look like such a huge talent differential there.
    What's the record after the All Star break?

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    Wow. If people truly believe that 8th seed Memphis with marginal talent was betterthan the Spurs you need your head examined. They deserve all the credit for pounding the Spurs but they were not the better team, they simply played better.

    This isn't the Suns losing to a championship team. This is the I have never won a playoff game 8th seed without their most talented player not ting the bed lke the Spurs. MEM gets and deserves the credit, they aren't better.
    Arguing completely subjective things, like "the spurs are more talented", is laughable.

    No joke, it's what I saw from Suns fans for years.

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    For some weird reason, I think if the Grizzlies actually had Rudy Gay they would have been worse off and he would've messed up team chemistry. Gay would've taken away alot of shots from Randolph and Gasol.....Anybody else feel like I do?

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    What's the record after the All Star break?
    Memphis 15-10(*)
    Spurs 15-11



    (*) including two tanked games

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    bonner and jefferson too many minutes while not contributing while on the court, as sooon they hit a basket, pop continues to leave them in the game

    bonner 3qt killer, when splitter shouldve been on the court taking his minutes who only had a measley 1min to close out the quarter...fkn just pathetic..

    pop needs to go, dude is just living on reputation and has fail last 3-4 seasons now...
    Memphis record after Dec 31: 32-18
    San Antonio record after Dec 31: 33-17

    Doesn't look like such a huge talent differential there.
    , well it's a good thing that the NBA is only half a season and nothing else matters. Why don't you post CLE's previous years regular season numbers to see how they compared overall.

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    Seriously though, Duncan...were you created by magic?


    Most influential player since Jordan.


    Thanks.

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    Philla, being hungry is one the factors that determines how good you can be and how good you are. The Spurs are not nearly as hungry as the Griz are, and thats probably OK after 4 championships but thats just as important as talent in determining how good a team is.

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